Transfers and Rumours 2011 > 2012

[bicing]

Pauwels to Skil
Porte to Skil
Blythe to Skil
Van Garderen to Skil
Hushovd to Skil
Gilbert to Skil

 

[just some guy]

Renshaw talking to Rabobank. Interesting for more than one reason.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-tra...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

that was unexpected Mathews new leadout guy

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Renshaw talking to Rabobank. Interesting for more than one reason.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-tra...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

that is most surprising.
We shall see if it eventuates into anything.

 

[ingsve]

Maybe it gets better.

Tony Martin zu Skil-Shimano?

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_71124.htm

Translation is fairly dodgy, from what I can read it is just them speculating on a possible destination.

There is a quote from Martin which translates as -

"Maybe it will be for one or the other as a surprise" i.e. A surprise where he ends up?

Well, it's not completely unlikely. Skil could become a regathering of various old Thüringen Energie Team riders. They already have Kluge and Gretsch with Degenkolb rumored so Martin would be a 4th previous rider from that team.

 

[Ferminal]

Renshaw talking to Rabobank. Interesting for more than one reason.

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-tra...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Indeed, as there's no way Cav goes to Rabo (surely!).

So maybe Cav's team cannot fit Renshaw in.

Maybe it's just a smokescreen.

At least Rabo could get rid of Brown if they signed Renshaw.

 

[MartinGT]

Pauwels to Skil
Porte to Skil
Blythe to Skil
Van Garderen to Skil
Hushovd to Skil
Gilbert to Skil

Wasnt there talk of Porte to Sky too?

 

[ingsve]

Can anyone provide any background on the young rider Tobias Ludvigsson? Is he a real talent for the future or was last week a "flash in the pan"? Thanks!!

He has been one of the strongest and most talented riders in Sweden the past couple of years. Before Burgos he had also won the prologue in Tour de Normandie and the queen stage of Thüringen Rundfahrt ahead of riders like Wilco Kelderman and Johan Le Bon.

I would categorize him sort of like Gustav Larsson. He is rather tall (1.91) and relatively heavy (74-77kg). He's got a pretty good ITT but can also climb fairly well for someone who doesn't have the typical climbers body. I'm told that he's got a better kick than Larsson but he's by no means a sprinter.

As for being a flash in the pan or a real talent, who can really say. He's not the new Sagan if that's what you're asking. Taking the step from U-23 to pro is not easy but I think he has a decent shot at sticking around for a long time. Only time will tell if he could ever win something really big.

Here's his blog in swedish that he updates fairly regularly: http://tobiasludvigsson.blogspot.com/

 

[TRDean]

He has been one of the strongest and most talented riders in Sweden the past couple of years. Before Burgos he had also won the prologue in Tour de Normandie and the queen stage of Thüringen Rundfahrt ahead of riders like Wilco Kelderman and Johan Le Bon.

I would categorize him sort of like Gustav Larsson. He is rather tall (1.91) and relatively heavy (74-77kg). He's got a pretty good ITT but can also climb fairly well for someone who doesn't have the typical climbers body. I'm told that he's got a better kick than Larsson but he's by no means a sprinter.

As for being a flash in the pan or a real talent, who can really say. He's not the new Sagan if that's what you're asking. Taking the step from U-23 to pro is not easy but I think he has a decent shot at sticking around for a long time. Only time will tell if he could ever win something really big.

Here's his blog in swedish that he updates fairly regularly: http://tobiasludvigsson.blogspot.com/

Thanks ingsve! That answered my questions perfectly. No, I didn't mean that he would be the next Sagan..just curious if he had the potential to be a solid pro...maybe so. Anyway, thanks so much for the info!!

 

[Michielveedeebee]

We've seen Visconti plenty of times in the Ardennes, even when he was at smaller CT teams like Farnese in the Amstel Gold Race.

Every time he failed.
Those classics are too hard for him.

Why you didn't notice him, is because he finished 85th about eveyr time

I meant LBL and Fleche Wallonne. I know he did AGR and he sucked

 

[buenahora]

Well I to remember after the Gretsch signing hearing they were looking to sign up to 3 more from HTC if it disbanded. I mentioned on 1 of the threads I expected them to be looking closely at some guys. Maybe Tony is 1. He would be absolute leader and would give them a massive coop and would probo get a WT spot.

I thought Tony Martin was a stagiair with Skil-Shimano just before he turned pro (wasn't his first year with Gerolsteiner???) so he has a cordial relationship with the Skil-Shimano management...
EDIT: I can only find a traineeship with Gerolsteiner before he turned pro with Columbia... Maybe I'm mixing up my facts...

 

[afpm90]

Pauwels to Skil
Porte to Skil
Blythe to Skil
Van Garderen to Skil
Hushovd to Skil
Gilbert to Skil

Wasn't Van Garderen going to BMC?

 

[Kvinto]

well, if AGR is too hard for Visconti then FW or LBL can't be easier i guess.

 

[just some guy]

Wasn't Van Garderen going to BMC?

I think Skil is the new BMC on here everyone to Skil at the moment.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I meant LBL and Fleche Wallonne. I know he did AGR and he sucked

He sucked even harder in previous editions of LBL and FW.

He can't even do it in San Remo. Face it, Visconti comes up too short, unless the competition is too tired and worn out to do anything (Lombardia end of season, where rider as Kroon got top 5)

 

[Swabian Lass]

Tony Martin to Skil would be excellent news, a new German WT team would be great.

Mark Renshaw to Rabobank!!?!! Seems unlikely somehow. If Rensahw isn't going with Cavendish, I'd have thought GreenEdge was more likely?

 

[staubsauger]

skill would be the perfect team for martin in my opinion. he could focus to perform well in the classics there - just like the way he won the eneco tour last season - and stop being used in a sprint train or trying to be a gt contender.

 

[LaFleur]

skill would be the perfect team for martin in my opinion. he could focus to perform well in the classics there - just like the way he won the eneco tour last season - and stop being used in a sprint train or trying to be a gt contender.

Tony Martin a good classic rider? Are you f-ing kidding me? I can't see winning the Eneco Tour being related to being a good classics rider whatsoever. (Btw, he only won the Eneco Tour thanks to the time trial, nothing more in it) He will always be a GC and TT rider, he will never be a good classics man.

 

[staubsauger]

he forced a good attack on a stage that really was like a classic from it's profile where koos m. won????? so that's why he won the eneco tour and so why shouldn't he be able to do something good in the classics?

 

[just some guy]

Re martin and GC*

* as long as the stage race is 7-8 days not too many mountains and long ITT

 

[theyoungest]

Mark Renshaw to Rabobank!!?!! Seems unlikely somehow. If Rensahw isn't going with Cavendish, I'd have thought GreenEdge was more likely?

Well, they could use some experience for their sprint train... or any sort of experience at sprinting, really. Rabo sprinters are always left to fend for themselves, maybe they've finally realized that you can't win a lot of races that way.

Don't know if it's mentioned on here, but the Degenkolb to Skil move has been confirmed to Nusport.nl by sources within the team.

 

[Praetor]

Well, they could use some experience for their sprint train... or any sort of experience at sprinting, really. Rabo sprinters are always left to fend for themselves, maybe they've finally realized that you can't win a lot of races that way.

Don't know if it's mentioned on here, but the Degenkolb to Skil move has been confirmed to Nusport.nl by sources within the team.

I think it would be a waste to use Renshaw as a lead-out for Bos, he might as well try to get wins himself, he'd probably do better.

 

[Swede1]

I think it would be a waste to use Renshaw as a lead-out for Bos, he might as well try to get wins himself, he'd probably do better.

Yeah because if there's so much as a speed bump, Bos gets dropped.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Tony Martin a good classic rider? Are you f-ing kidding me? I can't see winning the Eneco Tour being related to being a good classics rider whatsoever. (Btw, he only won the Eneco Tour thanks to the time trial, nothing more in it) He will always be a GC and TT rider, he will never be a good classics man.

false.

actually he and koos got away on the most decisive stage. Hilly and cobbles.
He did a lot more then just ITT to the win on that occasion.

but yeah i don't consider him a classics rider.

he is a TTr with moderate climbing / all round (as he did quite well in that cobbled stage last year) abilities.

 

[jobiwan]

Re martin and GC*

* as long as the stage race is 7-8 days not too many mountains and long ITT

...or if the 2009 Tour get repeated!

 

[theyoungest]

I think it would be a waste to use Renshaw as a lead-out for Bos, he might as well try to get wins himself, he'd probably do better.

I think you're forgetting that there's a young Aussie sprinter at Rabo whom Renshaw might feel like helping out. Also, I don't think Renshaw is faster than Bos.

Tony Martin a good classic rider? Are you f-ing kidding me? I can't see winning the Eneco Tour being related to being a good classics rider whatsoever. (Btw, he only won the Eneco Tour thanks to the time trial, nothing more in it) He will always be a GC and TT rider, he will never be a good classics man.

Did you even watch the race? He won it by getting a gap on the cobbles stage. I actually think he could be very good for Paris-Roubaix, but he doesn't care about that race.