Transfers "Rumours & Reality" and Young Guns

[Anonymous]

There is a pretty cracking transfer list on wielerflits..

Updated daily with confirmed transfers (or very likely in bold), rumours in normal font..

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwielerflits%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26hs%3DgoB&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhxgpIidQzBwsSG35JSYzE7IQX0gg

stunning amount of rumours and news there.. wish my dutch was better

 

[Bala Verde]

Der Tony - who is really good - turned down an offer from the Shack/Mr Armstrong.

Nachwuchsstar Tony Martin aus Cottbus hat dem siebenmaligen Tour-Sieger Lance Armstrong einen Korb gegeben. Der 24 Jahre alte Radprofi vom Columbia-Rennstall lehnte das Angebot ab, in der kommenden Saison für Armstrongs zukünftiges Radio-Shack-Team an den Start zu gehen.

 

[Anonymous]

I've stopped paying attention to most of the post on this forum. It's mostly trolls that just want to start crap and I really had enough of that crap. Unless someone makes a statement directly to me I really don't bother reading the statements.

What a trollish post...

 

[Anonymous]

I've stopped paying attention to most of the post on this forum. It's mostly trolls that just want to start crap and I really had enough of that crap. Unless someone makes a statement directly to me I really don't bother reading the statements.

well why not just give the people you want to talk to your msn addy, or email address and not come on here...?

 

[Super Guanche]

Welcome aboard, but can we please make it a rule where that if you post an article outside of English, there should be a translation involved.

Just because you don't speak Spanish shouldn't mean everyone else is deprived of the link.

 

[Anonymous]

Welcome aboard, but can we please make it a rule where that if you post an article outside of English, there should be a translation involved. Either that or loan me a few bucks to get Spanish lessons.
.

im sure we can all work out bablefish or googletranslate, if you are going to start expecting people posting non-english language links with translations, then i think its reasonable to request that all english language links are translated into french, italian, spanish etc..

english speakers really are lazy ******s, we do not rule the world..

 

[aarnold517]

So Caisse is making all of these signings while also lowering their roster size down to 25.

It sounds more and more like Alonso's team will be up and ready by next year and they will be taking some of the Caisse boys with them.

 

[Anonymous]

There is a pretty cracking transfer list on wielerflits..

Updated daily with confirmed transfers (or very likely in bold), rumours in normal font..


stunning amount of rumours and news there.. wish my dutch was better

sorry.. the link appeared wrong.. this is better...

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwielerflits%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26hs%3DgoB&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhxgpIidQzBwsSG35JSYzE7IQX0gg

 

[Anonymous]

So Caisse is making all of these signings while also lowering their roster size down to 25.

It sounds more and more like Alonso's team will be up and ready by next year and they will be taking some of the Caisse boys with them.

wielernieuws has this listing for Caissee so far...

Caisse d'Epargne (Spain)
In
Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) <Lampre-NGC
Christophe Moreau (Fra) <Agritubel
Alberto Contador (Spa) <Astana
Kanstantin Sivtsov (Wru) <Team Columbia HTC
Diego Milan (Spa) <Acqua & Sapone
Juan Mauricio Soler (Col) <Barloworld-Bianchi
Tiago Machado <Made Inox-Boavista
Aser Esteves (Spa) <--

Out
Joaquin Rodriguez (Spa)> Team Katusha
Oscar Pereiro (Spa)> Xacobeo-Galicia stops
Nicolas Portal (Fra)> stop
Anthony Charteau (Fra)>?
Marlon Perez (Col)>?

Bold denotes definate.. the rest are rumours

 

[Bala Verde]

wielernieuws has this listing for Caissee so far...

Caisse d'Epargne (Spain)
In
Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) <Lampre-NGC
Christophe Moreau (Fra) <Agritubel
Alberto Contador (Spa) <Astana
Kanstantin Sivtsov (Wru) <Team Columbia HTC
Diego Milan (Spa) <Acqua & Sapone
Juan Mauricio Soler (Col) <Barloworld-Bianchi
Tiago Machado <Made Inox-Boavista
Aser Esteves (Spa) <--

Out
Joaquin Rodriguez (Spa)> Team Katusha
Oscar Pereiro (Spa)> Xacobeo-Galicia stops
Nicolas Portal (Fra)> stop
Anthony Charteau (Fra)>?
Marlon Perez (Col)>?

Bold denotes definate.. the rest are rumours

So they replaced 2 Frenchies with one big name Moreau to satisfy the French sponsor. Bruseghin for the Giro and a Tour domestique, Moreau for the 1-week (french) races, and they are paving the way with some strong signings to beef up the overall team strenght for Contador.

Siutsou is like a Kiryienka, strong, powerful and good for stage wins. Soler potentially?

If they get a new sponsor who'll chip in a buck or two to pay Mr Contador...

I still think losing Rodriguez is perhaps a little painful, but since he (and Oscar Pereiro) are going, it'll increase their liquidity... I mean, Oscar wasn't cheap, and given the fact that Rodriguez goes to Katiusha, we could well infer that he was a high paid employee as well...

It is starting to look like another galacticos team...

I wonder how Amador and Uran will (continue) to develop the next season...

 

[luckyboy]

http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwielerflits%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26rls%3Den%26hs%3DgoB&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&usg=ALkJrhhxgpIidQzBwsSG35JSYzE7IQX0gg

Thanks for that

 

[gjdavis60]

I'm told to watch this space on that front. Alonso has got the cash ready to roll. Contractual issues to take care of first thou. I've also heard Alonso taking a year out of F1 and working on this team along with driving in NASCAR or something like that. Also expect a link to a Spanish football team.

Alonzo in NASCAR: "The car, it is broken. I turn the wheel, but it keeps going straight."

 

[cesko_jr]

http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/


I see that in this site is Miholjevic (Liquigas) maybe going to Astana. Does anybody have a link to that where they get it?

tnx..

 

[Anonymous]

http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/


I see that in this site is Miholjevic (Liquigas) maybe going to Astana. Does anybody have a link to that where they get it?

tnx..

they are combining rumours from all over the internet on a daily basis.. if you read through the thread there it may say, but then again it may not

 

[unsheath]

Did you read the posts above you before posting? It was the only offer he had

That he's "one of Contador's boys" is just something the media made up. He himself said the only guy he's very close with on the team is Klöden. Contador's boys are Navarro, Noval and Hernández, who are all negotiating with Caisse along with Contador.

Again, it's in the posts immediately above yours

If that's true, It's highly unlikely that Contador would insist that his new team sign Paulinho as well. This is even more unlikely with Caisse given their streamlined roster for next year.

Still no further whispers of Contador's likely destination... Or Evans.. Thought rumours would be abound given his tour of discontent.

 

[hfer07]

Shack seems to be "not appealing" at all to the Top Names -even great backup money cannot get to buy off contracts from the likes of Schleck brothers, Tony Martin, etc.- Was it too much damage done to the LA/JB image the "Contador experience"?

 

[richwagmn]

Good interview with Vaughters. Comments on the Contador situation.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/jonathan-vaughters-post-tour-interview

 

[bianchigirl]

The Contador situation didn't help, and the fact that Armstrong is making no secret of the fact that this is his team - good to see that Tony Martin felt his career was worth more than being a water carrier. Attempting to sign top flight talent has nothing to do with their development as riders and everything to do with nullifying as much of the competition as possible.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Shack seems to be "not appealing" at all to the Top Names -even great backup money cannot get to buy off contracts from the likes of Schleck brothers, Tony Martin, etc.- Was it too much damage done to the LA/JB image the "Contador experience"?

That's the big problem for Team Hogstrong.
Nobody with aspirations, (i.e. young talent) should, in theory, touch them with a barge pole.
Definitely, a country for old men, who yearn for the bad 'ol days and don't mind a permanent doping cloud of suspicion, hanging over their shack.

 

[craig1985]

Because I had nothing to do, I was watching the final stage in the TdF and when Matt Keenan was commentating (and he is a million times better then Paul Sherwin and Phil Liggett, and he understands pro cycling) said there had been speculation in France that Armstrong would try to snap up a few French riders, and young riders (like Brice Feillu) so he could get a lot more favourable coverage in the press.

 

[bianchigirl]

He approached Brice Feillu at the Tour - Feillu said he was flattered but it's not known if it was a firm offer.

 

[luckyboy]

http://www.wielerflits.nl/forum/topic/382/


LPR Brakes Farnese Vini (Ireland) stops

Hey, wait - LPR aren't continuing next year?

 

[thehog]

Contador team announcement Sept 5th.

 

[Bala Verde]

Hey, wait - LPR aren't continuing next year?

I thought their contract/sponsorship was up in 2010 but the team's manager wanted to continue in a slimmed down version, with lesser known riders/no famous big shots.

 

[Carl0880]

Shack seems to be "not appealing" at all to the Top Names -even great backup money cannot get to buy off contracts from the likes of Schleck brothers, Tony Martin, etc.- Was it too much damage done to the LA/JB image the "Contador experience"?

It may also be that these riders contract buyouts are too expensive, Martin, Schlecks, all have contracts until 2010 or 2011. I think many people think its easy to get these riders. You are basically paying dollars the cost because of buying one contract out, and paying for the new contract to get a rider.

Example being Contador, he is wanting 2 million a year, which is large salary to pay him. Then, since he does have one more year on his contract with the Kazakhs, I am sure they are going to want at least the same amount for him since he is worth a ton potentially to them as far as sponsorship and experience for the younger riders to learn from. So a team thats wants Contador service will be looking to probably to spend 4 million dollars on 1 rider for 1 year. That is more then a couple of ProTour team's entire budgets. Now imagine how ticked the sponsors would get if they make this huge investment and Contador fractures a collarbone in the Dauphine which puts him out of the TDF. These are factors that team management has to consider. So its not just as easy as going out and signing the rider. With sponsorship money and economic problems, money and just not available like that.