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Carl0880 said:
It may also be that these riders contract buyouts are too expensive, Martin, Schlecks, all have contracts until 2010 or 2011. I think many people think its easy to get these riders. You are basically paying dollars the cost because of buying one contract out, and paying for the new contract to get a rider.

Example being Contador, he is wanting 2 million a year, which is large salary to pay him. Then, since he does have one more year on his contract with the Kazakhs, I am sure they are going to want at least the same amount for him since he is worth a ton potentially to them as far as sponsorship and experience for the younger riders to learn from. So a team thats wants Contador service will be looking to probably to spend 4 million dollars on 1 rider for 1 year. That is more then a couple of ProTour team's entire budgets. Now imagine how ticked the sponsors would get if they make this huge investment and Contador fractures a collarbone in the Dauphine which puts him out of the TDF. These are factors that team management has to consider. So its not just as easy as going out and signing the rider. With sponsorship money and economic problems, money and just not available like that.

True, except that guys like Martin are turning down the opportunity to go to Shack, not the other way around. Shack is being turned down by riders that they have targeted. This I like!!
 
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I think it is not as common in cycling to buy someone out of his contract as opposed to soccer. So I doubt any team would actually try to pursue that route, except maybe in the case of Contador.

Anyway, I think I read it earlier somewhere officially/unofficialy, but don't know where exactly anymore.

Hunter to Garmin.... Working on the Farrar train?
 
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I think it is not as common in cycling to buy someone out of his contract as opposed to soccer. So I doubt any team would actually try to pursue that route, except maybe in the case of Contador.

Anyway, I think I read it earlier somewhere officially/unofficialy, but don't know where exactly anymore.

Hunter to Garmin.... Working on the Farrar train?

Looks that way, and if the roster is correct, Farrar has the chance for some Vuelta wins considering that in terms of speed, he appeared to be the second fastest in the TdF. However, when your nose is the one in the wind, keeping it there when you aren't Cav be difficult.
 
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Hunter to Garmin.... Working on the Farrar train?

I can shed small light on this one.. have it on very good authority that there have been talks but thats all at the moment (that was as of august 3rd)
 
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dimspace said:
I can shed small light on this one.. have it on very good authority that there have been talks but thats all at the moment (that was as of august 3rd)

Hmm it could be a good addition to the team. I wonder how it'll turn out at the start of Sept. The news flash I read made it look as if it was a done deal... But hey, now the rumour mill is doing overtime, they could be pre-emptively dropping names to increase their scoop-ontent..

Other signings:

24 year old Slovenian Grega Bole (Amica Chips and Adria Mobili) will ride for Lampre in 2010

20 year old, talented Dane, Rasmus Guldhammer (Capinordic), who won LBL and finished 2nd in Flandres has been recruited by Columbia.

Lars Ytting Bak appears to be leaving Team Saxo and is on his way to Columbia as well....
 
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kease7 said:
Why is LA aloud to announce who he signs for TEAM SHACK? & Sky arent?

Anyone can announce. Quite simply, if they do so before september first, the team for whom the rider currently rides can complain, and if so they get fined.

But who are you talking about? To my knowledge, LA hasn't announced anyone yet.
 
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Hincapie

I just read that Lance said Hincapie told him to count on him for the new team before any official announcement about sponsor, etc had been made. Are Hincapie's remarks a verbal committment, something that can be banked on, or merely casual conversation between old friends? Hincapie could tell Columbia that he and Lance were just shooting the breeze, talking old times, but Lance seems to have taken the remarks seriously.
So, Hincapie to Team RadioHead.
 
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or http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-moots-hincapie-move-to-the-shack

"Who are you bringing with you to the RadioShack team? What about George Hincapie?" The reply was an ambiguous, "He’s already committed. Has been since before we got our funding

that is about an ambiguous a line as i have every seen.. already commited to shack, all already commited elsewhere.. no was of knowing..

its almost unrerportable, or no point in reporting it its that vague.. gotta say on this one CN, your making a headline where there isnt one..
 
Susan Westemeyer said:

Why is that cyclingnews has completely dumbed down? The only transfer news that gets reported is rumors of team RadioShack. Are you guys on the payroll like Liggett? Say it aint so CyclingNews. You haven't lost your independence. Shame.

Reading the article is not even a bloody story its just a cr*pa*se quote and it makes headline news? WTF?

You guys have lost it.
 
collateral damage said:
Any link to that or is it just speculation

Sorry can't link it. I just know. He's not going to QS or Casse. The only way is to buy out his contract to Astana and then pay him the 2.5€ a year he deserves. Alberto also wants a big input into technology and clothing. Something he never got at Astana.

So in saying all that there are only two teams that can fulfil this criteria. Cervelo and his own team. Choose for yourself.
 
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Jurgen van Goolen has told Bjarne Riis to GAGF after he won't get to ride his favourite race - the Vuelta (tbf he finished 16th last year and was second in the mountains comp in 2007).
 
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craig1985 said:
Jurgen van Goolen has told Bjarne Riis to GAGF after he won't get to ride his favourite race - the Vuelta (tbf he finished 16th last year and was second in the mountains comp in 2007).

Van Goolen's always been such a nice fella.....

Sarcasm aside, He was given team GC leadership for the Giro and completely blew it. And he was completely cack in the classics for the duration of his contract.

He doesn't get to make demands.
 
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Siusou's agent says he has re-signed with Columbia.
He's also Kessiakoff's agent and says Kessiakoff is very close to signing with Garmin.

Finally, top prospect Michal Kwiatkowski is deciding between Caisse d'Epargne and QuickStep
 
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issoisso said:
Siusou's agent says he has re-signed with Columbia.
He's also Kessiakoff's agent and says Kessiakoff is very close to signing with Garmin.

Finally, top prospect Michal Kwiatkowski is deciding between Caisse d'Epargne and QuickStep

He's better than Phinney ;) Looking forward to seeing a lot from him! What would be the best choice for him, as a youngster Caisse or QST?

Siusou's was earlier linked to (by me :eek: ) Caisse I believe. I just love the way that guy rides, he's a great asset toe team...

Soler to Caisse according to http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/

De manera exclusiva nuestro portal http://www.revistamundociclistico.com se enteró, de fuentes de entero crédito , que el formidable ciclista colombiano Mauricio Soler, hará parte del poderoso escuadrón Caisse d' Epargne para la temporada 2010. Este equipo es gestionado por el conocido hombre del ciclismo Eusebio Unsué desde hace cerca de 25 años cuando se iniciaba un ciclo extraordinario en la compañía de Miguel Echavarry en Reynolds, luego Banesto y finalmente Caisse D' Epargne.

He'll be joining the best DS in the world, Eusebio Unzué.... ;)

And apparently Saur-Sojasun(DS Heulot) is strenghtening their team as well, quite a bit. Now with Guillaume Levarlet and Sébastien Joly (FdJ). It is rumoured they are trying to sign the Feillu's as well...

In the meanwhile l'equipe reports that Jonathan Hivert (24) and Cyril Lemoine (25) will be going to Saur-Sojasun as well...

They already signed Jérôme Coppel (Française des Jeux) Anthony Delaplace (Super Sport 35), Rony Martias (Bbox Bouygues Telecom) and Stéphane Poulhiès (AG2R-La Mondiale).

Interestingarticle on Aser Estévez who is wanted by Caisse d'Epargne, el Xacobeo Galicia a dutch and a portuguese team.
 
To me, this is a big bummer. I was hoping Levi would be going to the new BMC team to be their leader. It's going to suck once again seeing Levi have the talent to lead his own team for a season, and going to a GT as the sole team leader with a single focus to win that GT. And yet again, he decides it's okay to play second fiddle behind someone else. Someone who may not even be better than he is.

Considering 2010 may be his last chance at a GT, it's disappointing, and disappointing at how little confidence he seems to have to be the primary leader of a team. :(
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
To me, this is a big bummer. I was hoping Levi would be going to the new BMC team to be their leader. It's going to suck once again seeing Levi have the talent to lead his own team for a season, and going to a GT as the sole team leader with a single focus to win that GT. And yet again, he decides it's okay to play second fiddle behind someone else. Someone who may not even be better than he is.

Considering 2010 may be his last chance at a GT, it's disappointing, and disappointing at how little confidence he seems to have to be the primary leader of a team. :(

I am not really a fan of Levi (especially after all the crap that happened in this years TdF), but I agree with you in this case. He definitely has the talent to be a legitimate GC contender, and passing that up to push lance around France next year seems completely crazy. Maybe there is more $$$$ involved at "The Shack", but I seriously doubt it......
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
To me, this is a big bummer. I was hoping Levi would be going to the new BMC team to be their leader. It's going to suck once again seeing Levi have the talent to lead his own team for a season, and going to a GT as the sole team leader with a single focus to win that GT. And yet again, he decides it's okay to play second fiddle behind someone else. Someone who may not even be better than he is.

Considering 2010 may be his last chance at a GT, it's disappointing, and disappointing at how little confidence he seems to have to be the primary leader of a team. :(

+1. Pretty sure team Shack won't have two leaders at the 2010 TDF. ;-)

The real shame is that LL could take a Vuelta. If Bruyneel/LA run the Shack like they ran Disco/Postal/Astana though, LL won't have a chance to win it because he won't be riding it.
 
richwagmn said:
The real shame is that LL could take a Vuelta. If Bruyneel/LA run the Shack like they ran Disco/Postal/Astana though, LL won't have a chance to win it because he won't be riding it.
I still think if LL had concentrated his entire season this year on the Giro, he could have won it. Instead, he peaked at the ToC, then planned to peak again at the Tour in order to help Lance. The Giro seemed to be an afterthought. This mindset just baffles me.

He wouldn't have won the Vuelta this year, too many sharp climbs stacked, but I could see him winning it in a year with more TT km's, IF he were the team leader, and planned his season around it.
 
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