TUEs

[The Carrot]

Thought I'd start a TUE-specific thread seeing as this topic crops up again and again.

IMO this is the biggest Piddle take out there. It would seem it's legalised doping.

Borrowed from RobbieCanuck: It is clear the percentage of TUEs for conditions of asthma appear to far outstrip the incidence of asthma in the general public, exercise induced or not. Pound says in his book,

I found this: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/28/asthma-elite-athletes-study-swimmers-cyclist-eid

Now I don't doubt that there are some genuine TUEs out there, but why can so few people see through the BS that athletes are, as a cross section of society, statistically rather afflicted. It doesn't stop at Asthma either.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Posting first just to say that this thread could save a lot of frustration if people looked up what actually needs a TUE before they post. Thyroid hormones do not. Many asthma medications do not (clenbuterol does, salbutemol has a threshold limit, chart below). Cortico steroids are okay OOC but not IC.

Good resource here: http://globaldro.com/

Asthma medication info here from http://www.usada.org/substances/prohibited-list/athlete-guide/ :

Inhaler Brands and Strengths
Recommended Dosing by Manufacturer
WADA Maximum doses per 24 hours (do not exceed)

Advair Diskus 100/50, 250/50, or 500/50
Each have salmeterol 50mcg per puff
1 puff twice each day (100 mcg)
Take as directed by the drug manufacturer

Advair HFA 45/21, 115/21, or 230/21
Each has salmeterol 21 mcg per puff
2 puffs twice each day (84 mcg)
Take as directed by the drug manufacturer

Albuterol 90mcg per puff
1-2 puffs every 4 hours as needed for wheezing
Salbutamol 90 mcg per puff:
17 puffs a day (<1600 mcg)

Dulera 100mcg/5mcg per puff or
200mcg/5mcg per puff
2 puffs twice each day (20 mcg)
Formoterol 5 mcg per puff:
10 puffs a day (<54 mcg)

ProAir (albuterol) 108 mcg/puff
1-2 puffs every 4 hours as needed for wheezing
Salbutamol 108 mcg per puff: 14 puffs a day (<1600 mcg)

Proventil (albuterol) 108 mcg/puff
1-2 puffs every 4 hours as needed for wheezing
Salbutamol 108 mcg per puff: 14 puffs a day (<1600 mcg)

Serevent Diskus 50 mcg per puff
1 puff twice each day (100 mcg)
Take as directed by the drug manufacturer

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Pretty sure thyroid hormones need a prescription though yeah?

 

[bewildered]

http://www.doping.nl/media/kb/3098/CAS 2014_A_3751 X vs WADA.pdf

Tennis TUE case. Will stick it on tennis thread too

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

The general public aren't in the habit of bicycling 30,000 km a year.

Execrcise-induced asthma

 

[doperhopper]

Nice to see asthma is back. Everyone was asthmatic in early nineties, then with full *** EPO era suddenly the peloton was magically cured, as there were much more marginal gains available. Now back to the lower octane fuel and traditional badzillas, maybe we'll see "pot belge" again (I know, not gonna happen, too much new stuff around, and genetic doping around the corner).

 

[The Carrot]

Found this, courtesy of Will 10 from the Froome thread:

will10 wrote:
This was quite an enlightening tweet from Michael Hutchinson who rode the World ITT for Ireland last season

Michael Hutchinson ‏@Doctor_Hutch
Worth saying again that the dope control guys at the worlds last year were amazed I didn't have any therapeutic use exemptions. (TUEs)

Tanni Grey-Thompson ‏@Tanni_GT
@Doctor_Hutch is that because so many cyclists have them ??
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16 Feb Michael Hutchinson ‏@Doctor_Hutch
@Tanni_GT That would be what you'd suspect. It backs up the rumours of large numbers of riders holding multiple TUEs.

Jack Thurston ‏@thebikeshow
@Doctor_Hutch Should all TUEs be public? Would transparency help ? Or is it an unjustified invasion of privacy?
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16 Feb Michael Hutchinson ‏@Doctor_Hutch
@thebikeshow imagine TUEs are covered by medical confidentiality. Suspect that even knowing the total number in the peloton wd be striking.

 

[blackcat]

Nice to see asthma is back. Everyone was asthmatic in early nineties, then with full *** EPO era suddenly the peloton was magically cured, as there were much more marginal gains available. Now back to the lower octane fuel and traditional badzillas, maybe we'll see "pot belge" again (I know, not gonna happen, too much new stuff around, and genetic doping around the corner).

potbelge suppositories are unnerateds in the last ten km of cobble classics. just pop one in and away you go, Like JaJas cocaine and potbelge parties, just with April MAcy and Lance Armstrong

April MAcy and Lance Armstrong peccadilloes

 

[fenns]

The message is clear to any youngsters hoping for a career in top-flight sport: if you haven't got asthma or thyroid problems forget it.

 

[rick james]

Christ on a bike I have asthma and a under active thyroid...I better delete strava

 

[The Carrot]

Re:

Christ on a bike I have asthma and a under active thyroid...I better delete strava

No, you had better slag off the athletes who are lying about their fictional medical conditions.