U23 races and talents

[Samamba]

Is that an Ineos contract I smell?

Before today: talented rider, but doesn't show it often. Definitely WT worthy but doubt major teams are going to jump on him
After today: 500k offers from every major WT team lmao

 

[Samamba]

HE HAS 4 MINUTES WTFFFFFF

 

[Red Rick]

This is just the FdJ riders collapsing as if theyre baby Pinots

 

[SafeBet]

Is there a time limit?
I think the 5th rider is already 6 minutes behind.

 

[Samamba]

Is there a time limit?
I think the 5th rider is already 6 minutes behind.

There is one, but no way they go through with it or you have 40 riders left tomorrow.

 

[Mayomaniac]

So Ethan casually goes from hilly classics guy to the 2nd coming of Eddy...

 

[Red Rick]

So Ethan casually goes from hilly classics guy to the 2nd coming of Eddy...

Guess he held back on Guspessa.

And Lenny Martinez is probably a dreadful rouleur.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Guess he held back on Guspessa.

And Lenny Martinez is probably a dreadful rouleur.

Yeah, 52kg Lenny Martinez loosing time on the false flat isn't that much of a surprise.
Him totally cracking and Leo catching the other top u23 guys after getting dropped on the descent, dropping them and putting multiple minutes into them on the other hand isn.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Apparently lots of riders are 1H behind the stage winner...

 

[Samamba]

Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt definitely faded a lot. They came in 2nd and 3rd around 5 minutes back. Then Thompson, Martinez and Lecerf (impressive!!!) 6 minutes back. The 30 seconds later Onley and Wilksch from DSM. So Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt lost some time on the others the last 20k, must've gone over their limit on the Guspessa, Hayter didn't and is a really good rouleur.

FDJ 2nd, 4th and 5th. But 5 minutes behind Hayter.

 

[Lui98]

I expected Hayter to win at least a stage and to be at a very good level, maybe battling for a top 10 in GC, but as @Mayomaniac said, this was unexpected, I thought he had other characteristics as a rider (more like a one day racer and not a "tappone" guy) and also the gaps are mind-boggling

 

[Mayomaniac]

Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt definitely faded a lot. They came in 2nd and 3rd around 5 minutes back. Then Thompson, Martinez and Lecerf (impressive!!!) 6 minutes back. The 30 seconds later Onley and Wilksch from DSM. So Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt lost some time on the others the last 20k, says something.

FDJ 2nd, 4th and 5th. But 5 minutes behind Hayter.

The stage length and altitude gain probably had something to do with them blowing up, this kind of stage length and altitude gain is pretty unusual. One also shouldn't forget that despite their ability Martinez and Gregoire are first year u23 riders, so it's probably even more unusual for them (despite Lenny already riding the TotA with the pro team).

 

[Samamba]

The stage length and altitude gain probably had something to do with them blowing up, this kind of stage length and altitude gain is pretty unusual. One also shouldn't forget that despite their ability Martinez and Gregoire are first year u23 riders, so it's probably even more unusual for them (despite Lenny already riding the TotA with the pro team).

Ofcourse, I don't even see Gregoire as a pure climber, Neither is Van Eetvelt btw (helps that he "already" is 20y old). The thing is that Hayter also isn't one. The gaps are somewhat normal behind him. 7 riders within 1'30. But then there is the gap between Hayter and Gregoire...

 

[Red Rick]

Leo Hayter is why Tadej Pogacar sticks to the meagre Tour of Slovenia

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt definitely faded a lot. They came in 2nd and 3rd around 5 minutes back. Then Thompson, Martinez and Lecerf (impressive!!!) 6 minutes back. The 30 seconds later Onley and Wilksch from DSM. So Martinez, Gregoire and Van Eetvelt lost some time on the others the last 20k, must've gone over their limit on the Guspessa, Hayter didn't and is a really good rouleur.

FDJ 2nd, 4th and 5th. But 5 minutes behind Hayter.

Lecerf... finally. I've been tweeting about this kid 3 years ago.

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

Looking forward to Ethan riding as a domestique for Leo in the future.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Looking forward to Ethan riding as a domestique for Leo in the future.

Oh god, can you imagine how much Blythe will fawn over him?

 

[Samamba]

Lecerf... finally. I've been tweeting about this kid 3 years ago.

He is a really talented kid, this is a breakthrough performance for him tho. He had a Van Wilder year in his French team last year, but he's good spot right now at LTS. Partly dom for Van Eetvelt and next year leader, than pro in 2024 would be good for him I would say.

 

[ciranda]

Lecerf... finally. I've been tweeting about this kid 3 years ago.

That's nothing, I've been tweeting about him since before he was Junior, since the time he was William U12 Lecerf.

 

[Samamba]

Full results are in

https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=226&y=2022&e=03

Fight for the podium is still completely open I would say. You can clearly see that Everyone out of the top 6 on the Mortirolo but Hayter kind of collapsed a bit. Martinez losing 8 minutes after, Ciuccarelli 14 minutes in the last 20k!!! Clynhens 7'30. Gregoire and Van Eetvelt also lost a lot of time (3 minutes) on their chasers.
Others paced themselves way better. Thompson and Lecerf were 6 minutes behind with 15k to go and didn't lose any time after that. Martin Lopez wasn't even in top 15 over the Mortirolo but finished 9th,

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Hayter is a 3rd year U23, so you can't really compare that to guys as Martinez who is a first year. Most really talented 21 year olds have already said goodbye to U23 racing.

 

[SafeBet]

The stage design was probably an overkill for u23 riders but even following the live ticker was quite something today.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That's nothing, I've been tweeting about him since before he was Junior, in fact since the time he was William U12 Lecerf.

Hats off to you good sir. I know when i've been bested.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Full results are in

https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=226&y=2022&e=03

Fight for the podium is still completely open I would say. You can clearly see that Everyone out of the top 6 on the Mortirolo but Hayter kind of collapsed a bit. Martinez losing 8 minutes after, Ciuccarelli 14 minutes in the last 20k!!! Clynhens 7'30. Gregoire and Van Eetvelt also lost a lot of time (3 minutes) on their chasers.
Others paced themselves way better. Thompson and Lecerf were 6 minutes behind with 15k to go and didn't lose any time after that. Martin Lopez wasn't even in top 15 over the Mortirolo but finished 9th,

I think stage 6 should suit the flyweights better. I think 6 minutes is probably too much to take back on Hayter, but it's not impossible either.

 

[Samamba]

I think stage 6 should suit the flyweights better. I think 6 minutes is probably too much to take back on Hayter, but it's not impossible either.

Martinez is winning that stage. He just cooked himself completely on the false flat today. Still think he's the best climber there. 6 minutes is impossible tho if Hayter paces himself.