UCI suspicion index 11 years on

[roundabout]

Thought it would be interesting to have a review 11 years on from the 2010 Tour

Link to the index here

The Inner Ring | L’Equipe publishes UCI “suspicion index”

inrng.com

People subsequently (2010 Tour or later) caught or admitted doping and had results voided (so not counting the people who were subsequently cleared like Rogers or Kreuziger, or who admitted doping, but did not have the 2010 and after results voided like Leipheimer and Hincapie and Zabriskie)

10 - Barredo
9 - Menchov
8 - Hondo, Nocentini, Siutsou
6 - Petacchi, Reda, Santambrogio
5 - Ballan, Contador, Kolobnev
4 - Armstrong, Brajkovic, S. Sanchez
3 - Iglinskiy
2 - Di Gregorio, F.Schleck
1 - Pliuschin
0 - Koren, Mondory

Corrections are as always welcome.

Looking at the list with the benefit of 11 years of hindsight, it seems that it was a reasonable indicator. 8 out of 27 people at 6 and above on the index ended up being caught

 

[zlev11]

lol, incredible how Thomas was a 6 and he was basically packfill back then. I wonder where he would've been in his TdF winning form.

 

[Aimar16]

Froome was so irrelevant at the age of 25 that he wasn’t even on the list and boom after that mysteriously won everything.

 

[Cookster15]

lol, incredible how Thomas was a 6 and he was basically packfill back then. I wonder where he would've been in his TdF winning form.

10 - Barredo
9 - Menchov
8 - Hondo, Siutsou
6 - Petacchi, Reda, Santambrogio
5 - Ballan, Contador, Kolobnev
4 - Armstrong, Brajkovic, S. Sanchez
3 - Iglinskiy
2 - Di Gregorio, F.Schleck
1 - Pliuschin

Huh? I assume you mean Geraint? Where is Geraint Thomas in this list? Else can you please be more specific?

 

[Aimar16]

10 - Barredo
9 - Menchov
8 - Hondo, Siutsou
6 - Petacchi, Reda, Santambrogio
5 - Ballan, Contador, Kolobnev
4 - Armstrong, Brajkovic, S. Sanchez
3 - Iglinskiy
2 - Di Gregorio, F.Schleck
1 - Pliuschin

Huh? I assume you mean Geraint? Where is Geraint Thomas in this list? Else can you please be more specific?

lmao. Why don't you use your brain instead and click on the link in the OP.

 

[saganftw]

imho the highlight is cancellara and chris horner at 0

 

[Bolder]

Thought it would be interesting to have a review 11 years on from the 2010 Tour

Link to the index here

The Inner Ring | L’Equipe publishes UCI “suspicion index”

inrng.com

People subsequently (2010 Tour or later) caught or admitted doping and had results voided (so not counting the people who were subsequently cleared like Rogers or Kreuziger, or who admitted doping, but did not have the 2010 and after results voided like Leipheimer and Hincapie)

10 - Barredo
9 - Menchov
8 - Hondo, Siutsou
6 - Petacchi, Reda, Santambrogio
5 - Ballan, Contador, Kolobnev
4 - Armstrong, Brajkovic, S. Sanchez
3 - Iglinskiy
2 - Di Gregorio, F.Schleck
1 - Pliuschin

Corrections are as always welcome.

Looking at the list with the benefit of 11 years of hindsight, it seems that it was a reasonable indicator. 7 out of 27 people at 6 and above on the index ended up being caught

Dave Zabriskie, 0, took a doping suspension for USPS.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Crazy how Klöden was a 7 with Armstrong, Brajkovic, and Leipheimer 4 and Horner 0.

 

[Panda Claws]

EBH at 0 too. How did Sky ever achieve so little with that guy?

I find Van den Broeck at 8 pretty interesting too. His level always seemed pretty consistently top-10 fodder. He was just very consistent stage-to-stage.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Wasn't there an explanation at the time that score of zero = no data to evaluate ?

 

[burning]

Froome was so irrelevant at the age of 25 that he wasn’t even on the list and boom after that mysteriously won everything.

Froome was not in the 2010 Tour, it makes sense that he's not on this list

Horner, Voeckler, Cancellara, Zabriskie, EBH, Rolland, and Mondory having 0 is actually hilarious.

 

[topt]

Dave Zabriskie, 0, took a doping suspension for USPS.

Koren also

 

[roundabout]

Dave Zabriskie, 0, took a doping suspension for USPS.

Thanks, but while he did serve a doping suspension it was not for something that he did after the list was published so he is under Leipheimer/Hincapie category.

Just to reiterate, the idea of this thread is just to see with the benefit of hindsight how good the list ended up being in terms of predicting the likelihood of being caught

 

[laarsland]

Mondory got caught with his hand in the EPO-jar

 

[IndianCyclist]

Remy Di Gregorio ,2, arrested in 2012- nothing found. tested positive for EPO in 2018. Where there's smoke there's fire... usually

 

[jmdirt]

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[L'arriviste]

8. Nocentini although he retired before the sanction took effect. Results from 2018 until retirement DSQ'd.

It is an interesting barometer too for certain individuals who subsequently admitted to doping before that time and, on a purely speculative basis, for a few others whose careers declined.

 

[staubsauger]

The contained data values mainly were before Gadret & Voeckler started the French Renaissance. Hence why their score might be lower than expected.

Also Popovych was rumored to have ridden rather clean after Bileka tested positive. So from full program 2007 to nearly clean in 2008 to solid doping because he felt save being back with Armstrong & Bruyneel at Astana naturally should give suspicious values. Even if data was only contained from 2008 onwards.

On-Off-On is probably the most stupid thing to do if you don't want to get suspicious results. Might have been just the same with Cunego in the wake of Mantova and his brief return to top in 2011 & 2012!

 

[Cookster15]

Just looked at this again. There are lots of illogical rankings but for example, how on earth could Chris Horner be a zero ? This story was dated May 2011. By then Horner had already proclaimed himself as the" second best climber in the world" after being unable to hold Cadel's wheel in the mountains when he was at Lotto.

What the list highlights to me is the problems with the UCI passport and why it hasn't caught many riders.