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Velodude

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Scott SoCal said:
Stupid post.

Lance has never been accused of being tested 500 times. No one would ever be so stupid to accuse Lance of that.
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Its Armstrong's claim that he is the most tested athlete on this planet and he puts a figure of between 500-600 times.

Technically, depending upon phrasing, his claims could be correct with this split:

5% by authorities in compliance with anti-doping rules
95% by Dr Michel Ferrari and appointees to monitor "preparation" and risk :)
 
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Maxiton said:
Your post prompted my first and last visit to the Michelob Ultra site.


Neither hide nor hair of Lance anywhere there. So how does it work? Is he still under contract and thus being paid, even though they can't use him now? Or are they still using him in other media? Or is the contract finished?
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The image I linked is a scan of a a photocopy of a photo of a page in a magazine somewhere in Canada. Your guess is as good as mine ;)

What we need in this case is a good dose of Postieleaks, a cycling's equivalent of Julian Assange, if you will.
 
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the big ring said:
The image I linked is a scan of a a photocopy of a photo of a page in a magazine somewhere in Canada. Your guess is as good as mine ;)

What we need in this case is a good dose of Postieleaks, a cycling's equivalent of Julian Assange, if you will.
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Anyone remember the cyclileaks, or something like that? There might even be a banned user name here.

It was used to allege that Vaughters had confessed to doping to the USADA but had not been sanctioned. Meanwhile the USADA threw the book at Landis. It all disappeared quickly. We now know it was true.
 
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BroDeal said:
Anyone remember the cyclileaks, or something like that? There might even be a banned user name here.

It was used to allege that Vaughters had confessed to doping to the USADA but had not been sanctioned. Meanwhile the USADA threw the book at Landis. It all disappeared quickly. We now know it was true.
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If you search and try, there are places to leak your doping cables to. Anonimously, simply via email. It should become standard procedure.
 
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Maxiton said:
Your post prompted my first and last visit to the Michelob Ultra site.

Neither hide nor hair of Lance anywhere there. So how does it work? Is he still under contract and thus being paid, even though they can't use him now? Or are they still using him in other media? Or is the contract finished?
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The contract expires in September
 
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Ninety5rpm said:
I'm behind on reading this thread, so apologies if this has already been posted.

Article in the New York Daily News.

With Lance Armstrong on the offensive, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency is in the fight for its life
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Excellent article. If Armstrong somehow manages to avoid being sanctioned it won't be due to a lack of effort on Tygart's part. Now all we need is for politicians to stay the hell out of the way and let the USADA to perform the duties they have been charged with.
 
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Quick review

List of allegations against WonderBoy


1: Use and/or attempted use

2: Possession

3: Trafficking

4: Administration and/or attempted administration

5: Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up and other complicity

6: Agravating circumstances

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Possibly the most comprehensive and serious list of allegations against any athlete in history

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Ninety5rpm said:
I'm behind on reading this thread, so apologies if this has already been posted.

Article in the New York Daily News.

With Lance Armstrong on the offensive, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency is in the fight for its life
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The title sounds far worse than the situation outlined in the article, and they word things a bit loosely for my liking.

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He has denigrated the witnesses behind the case (the few who have been named publicly)
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they haven't been named per se - just guessed at. And he denigrated USADA, almost trying to defend the athletes; at least that's what his follow up tweet seemed to be attempting.

Or am I reading this all wrong? :confused:
 
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the big ring said:
The title sounds far worse than the situation outlined in the article, and they word things a bit loosely for my liking.

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they haven't been named per se - just guessed at. And he denigrated USADA, almost trying to defend the athletes; at least that's what his follow up tweet seemed to be attempting.

Or am I reading this all wrong? :confused:
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It is just a hypersensational way of saying the truth. Armstrong has a very weak case. In about three weeks, this case ought to be over.

Then we get to see whether Armstrong will participate in the arbitration process. And whether or not Armstrong will ask for an open hearing.
 
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zigmeister said:
Thanks for making the point how bogus the entire USADA case is with this statement.

So now the entire burden of proof is on the accused huh? Perfect example of how some private non-for profit organization that works under the guise and extension of the government doesn't actually follow due process.

The burden of proof is on the USADA, not Armstrong. But, apparently you and the USADA believe they all have to come crawling in front of the USADA panel and convince them they aren't guilty. When the fact is, USADA has nothing more than the Feds regarding witnesses and evidence.

Frankie, Floyd and Tyler, three known dopers who lied, profited and made a career of using PEDs only to later admit (once their careers are long over, how convenient), say they used PEDs. Then, everybody else, and especially Lance used PEDs.

Great character witnesses.

But since USADA doesn't follow constitutional process and rights, let's just get the circus complete, they can make their lifetime ban and take away Armstrong's TDF victories, or anything else, and move on shall we?

Just like the other guys who didn't want to waste a second on this case, they handed down lifetime bans just to make a point.

I'm still waiting for the USADA to actually provide something relevant and factual related to actual doping related to Armstrong other than the three usual suspects and Betsy's rantings.

Where is the "indicative of PED use" they keep proclaiming they have from around 2009-2010? Yet they keep saying they have something special, but won't reveal what that is.

Talk about the complete opposite of due process, USADA is showing how not to handle a legal case in a normal court of law.
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Not sure what country you are from originally or live in now, but the USADA abides by the AAA standards and athletes who are governed by their anti doping standards agree to their rules of arbitration. I suggest you google or bing the American Arbitration Association and read their rules of arbitration. How many more times do i need to use the word arbitration. Maybe as many as I use the word voluntary, as in they voluntarily agreed to the rules of arbitration to settle disputes. Maybe, if they can break the voluntary agreement to abide by the rules of arbitration, Mr. Armstrong's lawyers can retroactively change the rules of the Tour de France and just declare him winner every year for eternity and second place winners can kiss his feet on the podium.
 
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Fausto's Schnauzer said:
Oops, it seems that dear Mr. Armstrong's minions have other duties these days since it is obvious that no one is monitoring what's being posted on the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/lancearmstrong

NSFW!:eek:
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PED's are beautiful. PED's are beautiful. PED's are beautiful.PED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautifulPED's are beautiful

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=151446458325396&set=o.241090542569679&type=1&theater
 
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shawnrohrbach said:
..How many more times do i need to use the word arbitration. Maybe as many as I use the word voluntary, as in they voluntarily agreed to the rules of arbitration to settle disputes.
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The facts don't matter for a Wonderboy screed. Zig and Co. have got to simply deny the plain truth until Wonderboy's either find a hole in the system to fashion another exception or make up a way to defer things.
 
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Pazuzu said:
Excellent article. If Armstrong somehow manages to avoid being sanctioned it won't be due to a lack of effort on Tygart's part. Now all we need is for politicians to stay the hell out of the way and let the USADA to perform the duties they have been charged with.
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Given how much lobbying is done by demand media, and livestrong I'd say the chances are slim to none they let USADA just do their job.
 
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Just noticed something interesting, maybe someone else has already mentioned it, but, anyways here it goes:

The supposed twitter alter-ego of pharmastrong is: Juan Pelota

Now, let us separate said name as follows,

J uan Pelota

We just separated the 'J' and for the purposes of this conjecture we'll eliminate it. Then, the resulting name is:

uan Pelota

As many of you may know, "Pelota" in Spanish translates to "Ball" in English.

The interesting thing is that "uan" is exactly the way a native Spanish speaker would put in writing how to pronounce the English "one". So,


uan Pelota
^ ^
| |
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one ball

The alter ego pharmastrong chose for twitter is in reality: "One Ball".

Pharmastrong living in Texas exposes him to Spanish a lot. Maybe he devised this ingenious pseudonym to mock himself. Then again, maybe I'm seeing non-existent things or just a coincidence.
 
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thehog said:
Great idea. Half way through the Olympics shut USADA down!
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It would seem Armstrong's quest to do that has aroused the sleeping commercial giant of media interests-NBC, etc. What with every politician scrambling to distance himself from Armstrong's position it looks like Public Strategies offensive turned into a tragic farce.
It's almost like they are trying to increase the evidence.
 
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