USADA - Armstrong

[thehog]

Travis "Honey Badger" Tygart don't give a **** what the UCI thinks...

The UCI are inserting them into an already dire sh!tstorm.

 

[Kennf1]

Well obvious the UCI have already inferred to potential witnesses that they'll suffer penalties for their evidence.

JV is already talking about doing a part-time MBA with his time off.

JV started a round of cryptic and not-so-cryptic tweets on Monday, and continuing through this week. So maybe he got a nastygram from Pat? Or a drunkeygram from Hein?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

This is even better than the soap 'Dallas'. Also Texas of course.

 

[MacRoadie]

The UCI are inserting them into an already dire sh!tstorm.

And Tygart basically told them to go **** up a rope...

Let's all hold our breaths waiting for Fat Pat and Heiny to threaten a lawsuit against Tygart for defamation, based on his rather overt suggestion that the UCI is complicit in the Armstrong conspiracy...

 

[Microchip]

Some serious threats to "tell all" must've been given to the UCI, for them to write this request to take over the case. Hah!!!

 

[BroDeal]

JV started a round of cryptic and not-so-cryptic tweets on Monday, and continuing through this week. So maybe he got a nastygram from Pat? Or a drunkeygram from Hein?

I think it is usually opposite to that. McQuaid sends the barely literate drunkeygrams. Hein sends the cold blooded nastygrams.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

The hammer is falling in slow motion and no matter what they do the can't get their forehead(s) out of the way.

The tactics are getting interesting....my enemy's enemy is my friend, unless he sings at which time he becomes my enemy unless my friend can get the UCI to become enemies with my former friends, at which time, the ACME brand anvil will still be falling on my 'coyote-head' ......wait for it.......

 

[D-Queued]

USADA denies UCI request to take control of Armstrong/USPS doping proceedings

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ongUSPS-doping-proceedings.aspx#ixzz22VVg5JPT

Damn. And they had already booked tickets for Emile Vrijman to take over the case.

Wonder if they can get a refund?

Dave.

 

[thehog]

The arrogance is astounding. Or stupidity. Did the UCI actually expect everything just to be handed over?

 

[D-Queued]

The arrogance is astounding. Or stupidity. Did the UCI actually expect everything just to be handed over?

Article 16 of the contract says that the UCI will use whatever means it can to control any doping proceedings brought forward during the period of the contract.

After all, they don't want to be sued for breach of contract.

Dave.

 

[MacRoadie]

Article 16 of the contract says that the UCI will use whatever means it can to control any doping proceedings brought forward during the period of the contract.

After all, they don't want to be sued for breach of contract.

Dave.

Well, the UCI did control the doping proceedings, and USADA is controlling the anti-doping ones...

 

[D-Queued]

Well, the UCI did control the doping proceedings, and USADA is controlling the anti-doping ones...

Only the sharp-eyed can catch the subtlety.

Dave.

 

[D-Queued]

USADA’s CEO Travis T. Tygart has said the agency would not deviate from its investigation. "The USPS Doping Conspiracy was going on under the watch of UCI, so of course UCI and the participants in the conspiracy who cheated sport with dangerous performance enhancing drugs to win have a strong incentive to cover up what transpired,” he said.


Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12...#ixzz22Vb0CcOVThe UCI as part of the conspiracy. I don't think Travis will be getting a Christmas card from Pat this year.

I think Travis just gave Pat the Festina Finger.

Dave.

 

[ElChingon]

Quote from the USADA:

“The participants of the USPS Doping conspiracy made their decisions to use dangerous banned drugs to win and our job is to apply the rules whether someone is famous or anonymous. We will do that on behalf of the millions of people who demand clean sport despite these external pressures.”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ongUSPS-doping-proceedings.aspx#ixzz22VsE76ya

They are all going down!

 

[Anonymous]

The arrogance is astounding. Or stupidity. Did the UCI actually expect everything just to be handed over?

Or that the request would not find it's way into the public domain?

Idiotic. Verbruggen's fingerprints are likely all over this.

 

[MarkvW]

If UCI is "asking," then that's one thing. But if UCI is "demanding," then isn't UCI attempting to undermine the independence of WADA? Prospective sponsors won't like that. A logical UCI, repeat UCI, would not get involved.

And what made FatCat intervene for Lance NOW? What circumstances made him change his mind? Waiting until USADA/WADA is done would appear to be the more prudent course. Heck, the UCI could even support Lance before the CAS. Why jump in now?

Lance has somehow convinced FatCat that there is a good reason for him to get involved.

Self-interest or intimidation? Both?

Is McQuaid acting for UCI or is he acting for himself? Does the UCI have a board of directors who are not zombies?

 

[Deagol]

Well, the UCI did control the doping proceedings, and USADA is controlling the anti-doping ones...

priceless !!!!

 

[MacRoadie]

Or that the request would not find it's way into the public domain?

Idiotic. Verbruggen's fingerprints are likely all over this.

No need for a Wiki page, or a "TrustBut" type page: there's already one available, called PACER.

 

[python]

is anyone really surprised by the uci move to protect armstrong ?
i am not and neither should be anyone !!

has anyone forgotten the hundreds of thousands 'contributed' to the uci by armstrong to buy some machines ? the only cyclist on record known to do that !

has anyone forgotten the hundreds of thousands the uci shuffled to vrijman to suppress the lndd epo positives from armstrong ?

has anyone forgotten the TdS positives from armstrong that the Swiss lab director clearly indicated were attempted to be covered up by the uci ?

has anyone forgotten that the uci passed and present presidents threatened anyone with legal consequences who attempted to uncover their duplicity ??

it runs front and centre in the texas paper whirlpool, 'please get me rid of usada in favour of the corrupt uci'.

it was a tactic expected and anticipated by the usada.

it is a none-starter given the clear-minded, fact-oriented observers.


oh and BTW, no one mention WADA who are 100% behind the usada and will pick up the ball if the fraudsters succeed halting the usada process.

 

[BroDeal]

If UCI is "asking," then that's one thing. But if UCI is "demanding," then isn't UCI attempting to undermine the independence of WADA? Prospective sponsors won't like that. A logical UCI, repeat UCI, would not get involved.

And what made FatCat intervene for Lance NOW? What circumstances made him change his mind? Waiting until USADA/WADA is done would appear to be the more prudent course. Heck, the UCI could even support Lance before the CAS. Why jump in now?

If they wait for it to go to arbitration then it is too late. The goal is not to get Armstrong off on a technicality. It is to prevent widespread knowledge that Armstrong is a drug cheat.

 

[Irish2009]

Armstrong is pulling in the favours,. "Pat you need to get this USADA thing stopped or were all going under, find out what they got". Pat to USADA " The UCI should really be looking after this case, so hand it over" . USADA to Pat. "Sorry we can't do that as we have evidence the UCI are implicit in Armstrong being able to dope without retribution". At least I imagine thats how its going.............

 

[MarkvW]

If they wait for it to go to arbitration then it is too late. The goal is not to get Armstrong off on a technicality. It is to prevent widespread knowledge that Armstrong is a drug cheat.

You miss my point. I agree with your post.

My point is that FatCat may have a serious conflict of interest with the UCI. It does not appear to be in the UCI's, repeat UCI's, interest to squelch the Lance hearing process at the expense of the long term goal of fostering the perception of an independent and aggressive antidoping policy. It may very well be in Hein-Pat's interest to do so.

 

[thehog]

If they wait for it to go to arbitration then it is too late. The goal is not to get Armstrong off on a technicality. It is to prevent widespread knowledge that Armstrong is a drug cheat.

...or maybe just to show Lance that they're doing something even though they really don't care?

I'm not sure. The UCI answers to no one so I assume they can do as they want.

Makes all of Bradley's statements of recent full of utter crapola... what a duffer he is. But thats beside the point.

 

[thehog]

UCI President Patrick McQuaid wrote July 13 to USADA, claiming the Switzerland-based cycling group has jurisdiction and USADA does not.

"The UCI is the only test results management authority, as these are UCI tests," McQuaid said in his letter.

McQuaid said that because Armstrong has not been provided the evidence, "UCI does not feel comfortable" with the USADA case, "especially if such things which it finds problematic in terms of due process and even in terms of ethics are pushed through by pleading the rules of the UCI.

"This is particularly worrisome in this case because it is said to be based on witness statements only," McQuaid said. "UCI has no other information than that potential witnesses were approached by USADA and that advantages were promised in return for incriminating statements. This is problematic as well."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-03-15-30-19

This is a complete `about face' from the UCI's prior public statements regarding this case within the past month," USADA general counsel William Bock III wrote in a 14-page letter to McQuaid on July 26. "You were correct in the first media statements that you made in which you opined that USADA is the correct results management authority and can impose sanctions in these cases."

 

[Kennf1]

This is funny: non-Texas law firm explaining how Armstrong's lawyers blew the 14-day filing deadline under local federal rules in Texas.


http://www.bouldercriminallawadviso...why-strict-compliance-with-local-is-critical/