USADA - Armstrong

[Runitout]

McQuaid is barely literate. The mind boggles.

 

[snackattack]

Pretty much. I don't know why you guys are shocked. Unless the IOC takes exception, the UCI is free to do this and more.

That's pretty close to the magma ... Just tell them illegal pocketing gypsies to go to hell will do !

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[mewmewmew13]

The structure and errors make me amazed , but I am hesitant to get overly amused as I still worry about a bolt of lightning coming out of nowhere and blindsiding me.

What is going on with the minds of the UCI and the Armstrong teams......

 

[spalco]

If I was a littlle drunk right now, I think I would find the letters hilarious. Anyone noticed this bit?

We remind you that when the UCI had answered all the questions of WADA,WADA came back with new remarks in an effort to find incompatibilities. None of themconcerned the articles on jurisdiction for non-analytical cases. So why do you state now forthe purpose of this particular case that UCI’s rules run counter to the Code? We wouldn’t dare to think that it is because of WADA’s anti-cycling and anti-Armstrong tradition.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

McQuaid is barely literate. The mind boggles.

could it be the side-effect of some sort of doping?

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

If I was a littlle drunk right now, I think I would find the letters hilarious. Anyone noticed this bit?

The equivalent of drunk-dialing an ex.

Each letter he writes gets drunker and more rambling. I am surprised he did not spell in some slurred words.

 

[BroDeal]

McQuaid is barely literate. The mind boggles.

People have said that for years. Email and other correspondence from McQuaid is barely literate. Occasionally people receive something purportedly from him with a completely different writing style.

Verbruggen chose his stooge carefully. McQuaid can scarcely think for himself and is dependent on Verbruggen, even when it comes to producing coherent communications.

 

[fishtacos]

no offense intended, of course...

 

[HL2037]

If I was a littlle drunk right now, I think I would find the letters hilarious. Anyone noticed this bit?

We remind you that when the UCI had answered all the questions of WADA,WADA came back with new remarks in an effort to find incompatibilities. None of themconcerned the articles on jurisdiction for non-analytical cases. So why do you state now forthe purpose of this particular case that UCI’s rules run counter to the Code? We wouldn’t dare to think that it is because of WADA’s anti-cycling and anti-Armstrong tradition.

OMG WADA hates excellence and wants to ruin cycling.

 

[dbrower]

Classic McQuaid:

@NYDNSportsITeam: McQuaid on UCI defamation case against Floyd: "Mr. Landis has until now avoided the summons to be served upon him."

I'd believe that if they identified a court and a docket identification.

-dB

 

[Velodude]

Anyone would be incoherent if they had marathon sessions of drinking Jamesons with a Guinness chaser and vice-versa

 

[dbrower]

They haven't publicly commented, but they supplied an affidavit on Tuesday supporting the jurisdictional arguments being made by UCI/Armstrong.

Let's be clear -- USAC didn't organizationally supply an affidavit reflecting an official position. One of their employees did in a way that is made to look like a USAC statement, but really appears to be his (ignorable) personal views.

-dB

 

[dbrower]

Second para in letter to bock "We also find it important that current cycling is clean and in this respect we regret usada probably allowed riders that admitted to doping to participate in the tour de France"

I'm speechless

Well, in honesty this is USADA's 'fast and furious' moment, and something of a PR problem should it get triggered. By exercise of their case management discretion, and the disinclination of the riders to take a voluntary suspension, there is a grey area of riders-with-cases-in-progress racing.

Yup, that can happen. Like, say, Contador.

-dB

 

[thehog]

Pretty much. They used to have total authority for this kind of thing so it never got this far. I'm not sure why they didn't imagine this kind of outcome when WADA got set up. The IOC won't be directly worried, but a few sports federations very likely are.

I don't know why you guys are shocked. Unless the IOC takes exception, the UCI is free to do this and more.

This much is true. Dispite the illegible letter which sound like the ramblings of a drunk man the UCI only answer to themselves.

My take is it's severe stress. He knows what's coming next.

The question remains; who is Pat more scared of? Armstrong or the evidence?

 

[AcademyCC]

Page 5 Letter to Bock

"When I gave that interview people more qualified than I am in issuesof jurisdiction – and as you may understand have assisted me in our correspondence – werelooking into same. I wouldn’t think that statements made during an interview and unpreparedcan be considered as binding in technical matters as these. You will tell me that I had bettersaid nothing and I wouldn’t disagree.

Whatever I may have been saying during an interview you cannot deny that samples areinvolved in the case."

That sounds like he is talking about a conversation he had with someone outside a bar after 15 pints. Its Horrifying!

 

[Kennf1]

Let's be clear -- USAC didn't organizationally supply an affidavit reflecting an official position. One of their employees did in a way that is made to look like a USAC statement, but really appears to be his (ignorable) personal views.

-dB

I agree that he never states "It is the position of USAC...." However, there's no way the affidavit was issued without the blessing of Johnson, and I suspect drafts were bounced back and forth with Johnson in the loop.

 

[spalco]

The question remains; who is Pat more scared of? Armstrong or the evidence?

The evidence for sure. If half of what Landis claimed can be proven, the existence of the UCI, let alone McQuaid's presidency of the UCI, is on the line here. Armstrong is a sideshow imo.

 

[MacRoadie]

People have said that for years. Email and other correspondence from McQuaid is barely literate. Occasionally people receive something purportedly from him with a completely different writing style.

Verbruggen chose his stooge carefully. McQuaid can scarcely think for himself and is dependent on Verbruggen, even when it comes to producing coherent communications.

There is ZERO chance McQuaid has EVER used the term "inter alia" before in his life. The closest he's ever come is when he stumbled out of a Dublin pub "in ter the alley-a" for a ****.

McQuaid: degree in physical education
Bock: Juris Doctorate

 

[Anonymous]

This much is true. Dispite the illegible letter which sound like the ramblings of a drunk man the UCI only answer to themselves.

My take is it's severe stress. He knows what's coming next.

The question remains; who is Pat more scared of? Armstrong or the evidence?

Give Paddy credit for knowing your question above does not really matter. He likely knows much of the evidence... he also knows if LA goes down, he will too.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

The evidence for sure. If half of what Landis claimed can be proven, the existence of the UCI, let alone McQuaid's presidency of the UCI, is on the line here. Armstrong is a sideshow imo.

Agreed.... news of a doped cyclist, even Lance, would definitely be overshadowed by a corrupt governing body....I just don't think McQuaid ever thought this would get so close to his doorstep......there may be a lot more that would get exposed beyond cover-ups. UCI may have some nasty dealings from the past, they may have routinely manipulated results for years....and then the letters crafted with his good friend Jim Beam.....

 

[Mr.DNA]

Wait until you get to the letter to Brock - truly shocking - and in fairness not even BPC (or Polish) could write such waffle.

It reads like it was written in another language and run through an online translation site. Wow.

 

[BotanyBay]

Pat's letter to Howman
http://www.scribd.com/doc/102482467/Fat-Pat-Letter-to-Howman
Pat's letter to Bock
http://www.scribd.com/doc/102482392/Fat-Pat-Letter-to-Bock

It is now clear that BPC is Pat McQuaid

Holy crap, Marie!

Now, I wonder if it could be proven that these are McQuaid / BPC's posts? It would not be hard to do. Compare IP addresses to that of a Pat Mcquaid email (Floyd could help wit 'dat).

Perhaps "BPC" said some things that could be damaging to their overall case / IE contradicts other statements, etc. That would be friggin GOLD. Just proving that McQuaid was a juvenile tool would be a tremendous victory in and of itself.

 

[frenchfry]

Second para in letter to bock "We also find it important that current cycling is clean and in this respect we regret usada probably allowed riders that admitted to doping to participate in the tour de France"

I'm speechless

This is indeed mind boggling.

The USADA is on the verge of unveiling/proving a doping conspiracy of the highest degree and this is what the president of the UCI has to say.

Then again it doesn't really come from him, it is merely repitition of one of (his employer) Armstrong's talking points.

 

[BroDeal]

Second para in letter to bock "We also find it important that current cycling is clean and in this respect we regret usada probably allowed riders that admitted to doping to participate in the tour de France"

I'm speechless

In the USADA's defense none of the four did much in the way of competing at the Tour. To be fair to the UCI, they did participate.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Page 5 Letter to Bock

"When I gave that interview people more qualified than I am in issuesof jurisdiction – and as you may understand have assisted me in our correspondence – werelooking into same. I wouldn’t think that statements made during an interview and unpreparedcan be considered as binding in technical matters as these. You will tell me that I had bettersaid nothing and I wouldn’t disagree.

Whatever I may have been saying during an interview you cannot deny that samples areinvolved in the case."

That sounds like he is talking about a conversation he had with someone outside a bar after 15 pints. Its Horrifying!

To give him the benefit of the doubt maybe his computer was hacked and now he needs an exorcism.