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Variation on UCI WorldTour Team rankings...

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Note: I'm using the same scales the UCI does for their WorldTour, only based on team results (adding the places of the top three individuals on each team for individual stages and one-day races, adding the times of the top three individuals on each stage for each team for stage races). I'm also including Professional Continental teams in these rankings...sorry for not posting this earlier, but it took me this long to read that this website actually had a forum! (hooked on phonics failed me!)

Entering Tour de France:

1. Katusha, 980
2. Sky, 872
3. Movistar, 797
4. Astana, 765
5. Radioshack-Nissan, 641
6. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 616
7. Garmin-Sharp, 554
8. Rabobank, 546
9. BMC, 495
10. Ag2r, 393
11. Lampre-ISD, 358
12. Vacansoleil-DCM, 326
13. Liquigas-Cannondale, 312
14. Saur-Sojasun, 256
15. Europcar, 216
16. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 196
17. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff, 170
18. Orica-GreenEDGE, 150
19. FDJ-Big Mat, 140
20. Colnago-CSF Inox, 127
21. Farnese Vini-Selle Italia, 80
22. Argos-Shimano, 70
23. Lotto-Belisol, 64
24. Androni Giocattoli-Venezuela, 42
25. Cofidis, 25
26. NetApp, 21
27. Type 1-Sanofi, 12
28. Acqua & Sapone, 11
29. Andalucia, 2

Edit to add: Just to prove that I'm not trying to drive links, I haven't posted this anywhere else. This is exclusive to Cyclingnews.com.
 
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Is the official UCI points listing posted anywhere - I've searched the UCI website but failed to find it.
Thanks

Also thank goodness the points leader white jersey faded away.
 
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SetonHallPirate said:
http://www.uciworldtour.com/Modules...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=NjY0NDQ&LangId=1

Is that what you are looking for?
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Great - that is what I was looking for.

But back to the URL in post #3:
It states only the points of a teams top 5 riders are used to compile the team rankings. My immediate reaction is that a team could accumulate the most rider points (with around 30 riders) of all the teams yet place low in the team rankings.
 
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avanti said:
Great - that is what I was looking for.

But back to the URL in post #3:
It states only the points of a teams top 5 riders are used to compile the team rankings. My immediate reaction is that a team could accumulate the most rider points (with around 30 riders) of all the teams yet place low in the team rankings.
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Yes. The "top five riders only" clause is a wee bit absurd, in my opinion. If six separate riders from the same team (hypothetical) win the five monuments and the Tour de France, one of those results simply doesn't count. It doesn't reward team depth at all. (which is the brainchild of my deciding to start this project)
 
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Ranking for TDF Prologue (adding the places of the first three riders per team, ties broken by higher-placed rider):

1. Sky, 18 (20 points)
2. BMC, 26 (10 points)
3. Radioshack-Nissan, 38 (6 points)
4. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 60 (4 points)
5. Orica GreenEDGE, 61 (2 points)
6. Garmin-Sharp, 61
7. Liquigas-Cannondale, 100
8. Argos-Shimano, 104
9. Astana, 108
10. FDJ-Big Mat, 115
11. Vacansoleil-DCM, 119
12. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff, 125
13. Movistar, 142
14. Lotto-Belisol, 143
15. Rabobank, 157
16. Ag2r, 173
17. Katusha, 174
18. Saur-Sojasun, 243
19. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 264
20. Cofidis, 272
21. Lampre-ISD, 331
22. Europcar, 365
 
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Stage 1 Ranking:

1. Sky, 41
2. BMC, 45
3. Garmin-Sharp, 49
4. Liquigas-Cannondale, 52
5. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 55
6. Radioshack-Nissan, 64
7. Rabobank, 73
8. Ag2r, 73
9. Orica-GreenEDGE, 103
10. Vacansoleil-DCM, 119
11. Movistar, 121
12. Europcar, 126
13. Astana, 127
14. Katusha, 135
15. Cofidis, 136
16. FDJ-Big Mat, 143
17. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 151
18. Lampre-ISD, 181
19. Lotto-Belisol, 203
20. Argos-Shimano, 212
21. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 232
22. Saur-Sojasun, 263

Total Points earned so far in Tour:
1. Sky, 40
2. BMC, 20
3t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
3t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
3t. Radioshack-Nissan, 6
6. Liquigas-Cannondale, 4
7. Orica-GreenEDGE, 2
 
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Sorry but this ranking is stupid, I'd surely prefer being 1st,50th,51st over 5th,6th,7th in any race
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That's fair, and I understand your point. I think it's important to look at a team's depth too, however.
 
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SetonHallPirate said:
1. Katusha, 980
2. Sky, 872
3. Movistar, 797
4. Astana, 765
5. Radioshack-Nissan, 641
6. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 616
7. Garmin-Sharp, 554
8. Rabobank, 546
9. BMC, 495
10. Ag2r, 393
11. Lampre-ISD, 358
12. Vacansoleil-DCM, 326
13. Liquigas-Cannondale, 312
14. Saur-Sojasun, 256
15. Europcar, 216
16. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 196
17. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff, 170
18. Orica-GreenEDGE, 150
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How can Green-Edge be behind Saxo if they'he won TDU, San-Remo, Catalunya, 3rd or something on FW and a Giro Stage?
 
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Wigwan-Because the ranking for each race is based on the top three riders from the team in the race (and in each stage). I don't have the results from each individual stage listed in my spreadsheet, but I can tell you where Orica-GreenEDGE and Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank got their results, as well as the team results from the one-day races:

Orica-GreenEDGE: 10 from Tirreno-Adriatico, 60 from Milan-San Remo (4th), 32 from Catalunya, 7 from al Pais Vasco, 37 from the Giro, 2 from Dauphine, and 2 from Suisse.

Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank: 31 from Tirreno-Adriatico, 6 from E3 (9th), 22 from Gent-Wevelgem (6th), 40 from al Pais Vasco, 10 from Paris-Roubaix (9th), 22 from Amstel Gold Race (6th), 4 Romandie, 12 from the Giro, 22 from Dauphine, 1 from Suisse

Edit to add: Look at where they finished in the teams classification for those stage races, rather than just where the first riders finished. (for one-day races, and individual stages, look at where they would have finished under the 2005-2008 UCI teams formula where they added the top three placings of each team)
 
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Stage 2 Ranking:

1. Sky, 38
2. Rabobank, 60
3. Lotto-Belisol, 64
4. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 82
5. Astana, 86
6. Lampre-ISD, 100
7. Vacansoleil-DCM, 100
8. Orica-GreenEDGE, 105
9. Liquigas-Cannondale, 107
10. Movistar, 114
11. Garmin-Sharp, 116
12. Saur-Sojasun, 119
13. Ag2r, 129
14. Argos-Shimano, 135
15. Katusha, 135
16. FDJ-Big Mat, 140
17. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 140
18. Europcar, 160
19. Radioshack-Nissan, 161
20. BMC, 185
21. Cofidis, 201
22. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 212

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 60
2. BMC, 20
3. Rabobank, 10
4t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
4t. Lotto-Belisol, 6
4t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
4t. Radioshack-Nissan, 6
8t. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 4
8t. Liquigas-Cannondale, 4
10t. Astana, 2
10t. Orica-GreenEDGE, 2
 
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Stage 3 Ranking:

1. Radioshack-Nissan, 36
2. Liquigas-Cannondale, 42
3. Rabobank, 54
4. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 57
5. Astana, 71
6. BMC, 72
7. Lotto-Belisol, 78
8. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 79
9. Vacansoleil-DCM, 88
10. FDJ-Big Mat, 103
11. Sky, 106
12. Cofidis, 117
13. Ag2r, 121
14. Orica-GreenEDGE, 123
15. Europcar, 131
16. Movistar, 155
17. Katusha, 161
18. Garmin-Sharp, 191
19. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 191
20. Saur-Sojasun, 217
21. Lampre-ISD, 279
22. Argos-Shimano, 357

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 60
2. Radioshack-Nissan, 26
3. BMC, 20
4. Rabobank, 16
5. Liquigas-Cannondale, 14
6. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 8
7t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
7t. Lotto-Belisol, 6
7t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
10. Astana, 4
11. Orica-GreenEDGE, 2
 
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Stage 4 Ranking:

1. Lotto-Belisol, 24
2. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 48
3. Argos-Shimano, 50
4. Orica-GreenEDGE, 57
5. Sky, 73
6. Astana, 82
7. Liquigas-Cannondale, 95
8. Cofidis, 96
9. Lampre-ISD, 97
10. Vacansoleil-DCM, 99
11. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 102
12. BMC, 104
13. Europcar, 119
14. Movistar, 129
15. Radioshack-Nissan, 144
16. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 147
17. FDJ-Big Mat, 153
18. Ag2r, 189
19. Garmin-Sharp, 235
20. Rabobank, 236
21. Saur-Sojasun, 246
22. Katusha, 330

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 62
2t. Lotto-Belisol, 26
2t. Radioshack-Nissan, 26
4. BMC, 20
5. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 18
6. Rabobank, 16
7. Liquigas-Cannondale, 14
8t. Argos-Shimano, 6
8t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
8t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
8t. Orica-GreenEDGE, 6
12. Astana, 4
 
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BTW, for those interested, I'm working on the 2011 version of this. I actually have that one saved on an old computer, but it wasn't revised for (see The Clinic for more information).
 
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The 2011 version through Tirreno-Adriatico:

1. Movistar, 261
2. Sky, 187
3. RadioShack, 176
4. HTC-Highroad, 144
5. Ag2r, 136
6. Vacansoleil-DCM, 131
7. Liquigas-Cannondale, 125
8. BMC, 92
9. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 85
10t. Garmin-Cervelo, 74
10t. Astana, 74
12. Quickstep, 55
13. Rabobank, 48
14. Leopard-Trek, 39
15. Lampre-ISD, 21
16. Cofidis, 12
17. Katusha, 8
18. FDJ, 6
19. Saxo Bank-Sungard, 3
20. Europcar, 2
21. Bretagne-Schuller, 1
 
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Surely, though, the 5 riders only clause is to discourage hoarding of talent like at Mapei for the classics and USPS in the GTs. The racing is far more exciting if the best riders are spread across teams, rather than all working for one or two superior riders.
 
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2012 TdF Stage 5 Ranking:

1. Sky, 50
2. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 55
3. Astana, 58
4. Radioshack-Nissan, 77
5. BMC, 83
6. Cofidis, 87
7. Katusha, 94
8. Lotto-Belisol, 99
9. Garmin-Sharp, 99
10. Lampre-ISD, 119
11. Europcar, 123
12. Rabobank, 123
13. Ag2r, 125
14. Argos-Shimano, 128
15. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 136
16. Vacansoleil-DCM, 138
17. Orica-GreenEDGE, 152
18. FDJ-BigMat, 171
19. Saur-Sojasun, 175
20. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 190
21. Liquigas-Cannondale, 194
22. Movistar, 195

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 82
2. Radioshack-Nissan, 30
3. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 28
4. Lotto-Belisol, 26
5. BMC, 22
6. Rabobank, 16
7. Liquigas-Cannondale, 14
8. Astana, 10
9t. Argos-Shimano, 6
9t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
9t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
9t. Orica-GreenEDGE, 6
 
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Back to 2011, this one is pre-Giro d'Italia:

1. Movistar, 618
2. Sky, 563
3. Rabobank, 529
4. Radioshack, 497
5. Leopard-Trek, 422
6. Garmin-Cervelo, 372
7. BMC, 348
8. Katusha, 297
9. HTC-Highroad, 293
10. Quickstep, 273
11. Ag2r, 265
12. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 257
13. Omega Pharma-Lotto, 220
14. Liquigas-Cannondale, 217
15. Vacansoleil-DCM, 204
16. Astana, 177
17. Lampre-ISD, 167
18. FDJ, 106
19. Cofidis, 92
20. Europcar, 82
21. Saxo Bank-Sungard, 75
22. Colombia es Pasion-Cafe de Colombia, 32
23. Geox-TMC, 23
24. Skil-Shimano, 4
25. Caja Rural, 2
26. Bretagne-Schuller, 1
 
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Back to the present-day...2012 TdF Stage 6:

1. Orica-GreenEDGE, 22
2. Lotto-Belisol, 34
3. Vacansoleil-DCM, 51
4. Sky, 60
5. Liquigas-Cannondale, 71
6. Ag2r, 71
7. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 72
8. Radioshack-Nissan, 74
9. BMC, 77
10. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 102
11. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 107
12. Katusha-112
13. Saur-Sojasun, 137
14. Lampre-ISD, 150
15. Cofidis, 152
16. Argos-Shimano, 215
17. FDJ-Big Mat, 223
18. Europcar, 236
19. Movistar, 267
20. Rabobank, 309
21. Astana, 311
22. Garmin-Sharp, 415

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 86
2. Lotto-Belisol, 36
3. Radioshack-Nissan, 30
4. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 28
5. Orica-GreenEDGE, 26
6. BMC, 22
7t. Liquigas-Cannondale, 16
7t. Rabobank, 16
9. Astana, 10
10t. Argos-Shimano, 6
10t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
10t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
10t. Vacansoleil-DCM, 6
 
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2011 rankings, entering Le Tour:

1. Movistar, 893
2. Rabobank, 679
3. Sky, 610
4. Radioshack, 608
5. Leopard-Trek, 572
6. Astana, 520
7. Ag2r, 516
8. Katusha, 495
9. Garmin-Cervelo, 464
10. HTC-Highroad, 427
11. BMC, 402
12. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 366
13. Quickstep, 319
14. Omega Pharma-Lotto, 300
15. Liquigas-Cannondale, 281
16. Vacansoleil-DCM, 280
17. Lampre-ISD, 257
18. Europcar, 204
19. Geox-TMC, 136
20. FDJ, 113
21. Cofidis, 98
22. Androni Giocattoli-CIPI, 95
23. Saxo Bank-Sungard, 86
24. Acqua & Sapone, 81
25. Colombia es Pasion-Cafe de Colombia, 32
26. Saur-Sojasun, 31
27. Farnese Vini-Neri Sottoli, 18
28t. Colnago-CSF Inox, 4
28t. NetApp, 4
28t. Skil-Shimano, 4
31. Caja Rural, 2
32. Bretagne-Schuller, 1
 
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Back to 2012...TdF Stage 7:

1. Sky, 17
2. Radioshack-Nissan, 28
3. Astana, 76
4. Katusha, 83
5. Movistar, 84
6. Europcar, 92
7. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 92
8. Liquigas-Cannondale, 99
9. Rabobank, 107
10. BMC, 114
11. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 116
12. Ag2r, 118
13. FDJ-Big Mat, 122
14. Cofidis, 129
15. Saur-Sojasun, 139
16. Lotto-Belisol, 149
17. Lampre-ISD, 154
18. Vacansoleil-DCM, 154
19. Saxo Bank-Tinkoff Bank, 216
20. Orica-GreenEDGE, 228
21. Garmin-Sharp, 263
22. Argos-Shimano, 267

Points earned in TdF so far:

1. Sky, 106
2. Radioshack-Nissan, 40
3. Lotto-Belisol, 36
4. Euskaltel-Euskadi, 28
5. Orica-GreenEDGE, 26
6. BMC, 22
7t. Astana, 16
7t. Liquigas-Cannondale, 16
7t. Rabobank, 16
10t. Argos-Shimano, 6
10t. Garmin-Sharp, 6
10t. Omega Pharma-Quickstep, 6
10t. Vacansoleil-DCM, 6
14. Katusha, 4
15. Movistar, 2

Note: As of right now, Sky has pulled within 6 points of Katusha.
 
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