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Veneto Classic, one day race, Italy, October 15

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Salvarani

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postmanhat said:
Seems like a shame Formolo spent so long as a superdom, when he could have been doing this.
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Not really. Despite being as talented as he is... he dont got much of sprint, not very explosive and rarely the absolute strongest.

How he dropped Zana with an intense effort on a short steep section has often been where he has been of his best use for his leader in recent times (Pog).

However, if Hirschi is not his teammate here... he could/would have probably joined him here but he didnt, since that could have meant Zana also tagging along.

Nice end to the season for Formolo though. 2nd win this fall for him. 6th in total of his career, which says a lot.
 
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Zana made a tactical mistake by riding when Formolo joined the group of two - He sits on the back as he should have then he could possibly stay with Formolo on the final climb.
 
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UAE 1-2 again - good for Formolo. He's had a good end of season. Zana gave it a go but just could n't drop Herschi who's had a good end of season too.
 
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Salvarani said:
Not really. Despite being as talented as he is... he dont got much of sprint, not very explosive and rarely the absolute strongest.

How he dropped Zana with an intense effort on a short steep section has often been where he has been of his best use for his leader in recent times (Pog).

However, if Hirschi is not his teammate here... he could/would have probably joined him here but he didnt, since that could have meant Zana also tagging along.

Nice end to the season for Formolo though. 2nd win this fall for him. 6th in total of his career, which says a lot.
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Would agree with some of that, but Pogacar exploding onto the scene had a huge impact on his personal ambitions. The fact he's just won two races now he's leaving the team also tells you a lot?
 
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postmanhat said:
Would agree with some of that, but Pogacar exploding onto the scene had a huge impact on his personal ambitions. The fact he's just won two races now he's leaving the team also tells you a lot?
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It doesnt tell me anything.

I think his recent wins are more circumstantial + good form, more than that he would have always been able to do this if able to ride for himself more. He loses this race, if he is not on the same team as Hirschi.

His best seasons were in 2018 and 2019.

2018, no win.

2019, two wins. Final stage in Catalunya and the national RR. Both solo wins, as these two recent were as well. A bunch of other good results, but do you get it or not?
 
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Salvarani said:
It doesnt tell me anything.

I think his recent wins are more circumstantial + good form, more than that he would have always been able to do this if able to ride for himself more. He loses this race, if he is not on the same team as Hirschi.

His best seasons were in 2018 and 2019.

2018, no win.

2019, two wins. Final stage in Catalunya and the national RR. Both solo wins, as these two recent were as well. A bunch of other good results, but do you get it or not?
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No. Let's see how he goes next year at Movistar,
 
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Yeah, with His skillset Formolo will never win a lot, but He can score you a lot of Points in Long, hard one day races and has the engine for Long solo attacks.

2020 Formolo was still legit and Look how Strong He was when Pogacar won LBl and when He won Lombardia Last years. Imo His endurance ist His biggest strength.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
Yeah, with His skillset Formolo will never win a lot, but He can score you a lot of Points in Long, hard one day races and has the engine for Long solo attacks.

2020 Formolo was still legit and Look how Strong He was when Pogacar won LBl and when He won Lombardia Last years. Imo His endurance ist His biggest strength.
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Yes, that is why he has been great as a super-dom so it is nice that he gets two victories like these ones.
 
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Sciatic said:
I loved that stretch on gravel/dirt climbing through the olive groves—the one where they had to go through the gate of the private estate to start. Would love to ride that.
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Yea that was an awesome part of the route, even more special because like you mention it's private property and people don't just get a chance to climb it.

Otherwise a great win from Formolo today, he really was strong, and it helped to have Hirschi as backup obviously.

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RedheadDane said:
They mentioned that the owner is a big fan of Pozzato. Which is probably why he allowed for the race to pass through his property. That's like the ultimate fanboy move!
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Maybe the Belgian Pozzato also knows a rich Belgian who owns a big property they can race though.
 
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