Vuelta 2018 stage 16:Santillana del Mar - Torrelavega 32km

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Valverde, Kruijswijk and Ion to do well.
Yates S. will limit the damage best.

Lopez and Quintana will lose more.
Pinot, TT after restday, no hope

 

[Midnightfright]

I'm hoping beyond hope Valverde manages to take a minute on Yates and Quintana. Maybe Kruijswick to have a good day as well. Will make the week interesting with Yates in particular pressured to take the time back

 

[Cookster15]

Valverde in red. Yates to lose only about 30 secs. But Quintana to lose 30 secs to Yates. Movistar will have some decisions to make.

 

[Velolover2]

Yates was 20th in a similar TT in the Giro. He only lost about a minute to Froome.

I can't see Valverde taking the jersey from him. He could get close but gaining 30 secs on a motivated Yates is a hard task.

 

[Velolover2]

That said, It would be fun to have Valverde in red and the Colombian duo to lose some time.

It would force Quintana (and Lopez) to do some long range attacks while Valverde could sit on Yates' wheel.

Valverde is the only one who can handle Yates' short accelerations if he hasn't been forced to pull for Quintana.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Dennis obviously. But I hope Kwiatkowski isn't too badly injured. He can top 3 it.

Worst stage for Mas who has been flying in this Vuelta. Out of the top 10 riders in GC, he is the worst time trialist.

Nonsense, I don't know what makes you say that. Enric isn't the best TTer in the bunch but for a climber he is quite solid. Remember the final Tour de Suisse stage which was about as long as this one and he was on par with Kruijswijk and Kelderman and half a minute faster than Quintana. We just don't have many other reference points.

I am curious to see his performance tomorrow. My guess is he will be a little worse than Kruijswijk and Valverde, better than Lopez and Quintana and on par with Yates and Pinot.

 

[Gigs_98]

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I think Yates will do better than most people think and comfortably hold on to red.

 

[Red Rick]

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I think Yates will do better than most people think and comfortably hold on to red.

The annoying thing is there's barely any reference for his TT'ing when he's in this kind of form. Only the Giro ITT, which was 2 days after his great Sappada solo, and 2 days before he started imploding.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I think Yates will do better than most people think and comfortably hold on to red.

The annoying thing is there's barely any reference for his TT'ing when he's in this kind of form. Only the Giro ITT, which was 2 days after his great Sappada solo, and 2 days before he started imploding.

I think that TT was about par for what we can expect from him tbh.

 

[jaylew]

I think the top 5 will be in the same order after the stage.

 

[Robert5091]

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I think Yates will do better than most people think and comfortably hold on to red.

The annoying thing is there's barely any reference for his TT'ing when he's in this kind of form. Only the Giro ITT, which was 2 days after his great Sappada solo, and 2 days before he started imploding.

Yates will not and does not need to go so hard as he did at the Giro otherwise he'll blow up again. Expecting a solid time about the same as Valverde but quicker then MAL, Quintana etc.

That last km though with 180 degree turns could cause some problems. The course has no lumpy bits and apart from the last 2km looks good for some big gaps in finishing times.

 

[Der Effe]

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Finally a stage that suits Fabio Aru.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Lexman]

the 3 main favourites took it easy yesterday :
Dennis finsihed at 33 minutes
Castroviejo & Campenaerts arrived 4 minutes later

 

[Velolover2]

How many of the GC riders do you think will enter top 20?

These late Vuelta TT usually have a good number of GC riders in the mix. Even if they are not really hilly or mountainous. The fatigue factor.

 

[Joomla10]

Valverde in red and dream come true for me. He realy, realy deserve to win this Vuelta.

If i see him in red at Madrid that would be good thing for cycling.

 

[Põhja Konn]

Yates doesn't quite have the same legs as in the Giro and the race is taking place in Spain. As such I expect Valverde to gain time on him and take the red, but not by a big margin. Quintana will probably do his normal TT being around half a minute back from Valverde. He hasn't regressed notably in TT-ing, its his climbing level that has dropped.

Pinot is a wild card. This TT coming after the rest day, he may well end up being the worst of the GC guys. Normally he should be around Quintana's level - that one year when he was flying in TTs was clearly an exception. Lopez I don't know. Mostly he has been quite bad at TT-ing, but has shown good form thus far in the Vuelta and should at least be able to limit his losses fairly well against his current rivals.

 

[del1962]

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How many of the GC riders do you think will enter top 20?

These late Vuelta TT usually have a good number of GC riders in the mix. Even if they are not really hilly or mountainous. The fatigue factor.

Also a lot of non GC riders who arent ITT specialist who could do a reasonable time trial will be saving themselves for breaks or domestique duties

 

[movingtarget]

Dennis for the win obviously. Will Porte actually try or keep training ? Somehow i am not expecting very big gaps between the contenders for the overall.Normally SK and Uran would do well on this course but i don't see it happening this time not for Uran anyway. Zakarin also would normally like this course. Valverde gets his chance maybe to make up some time. Kelderman and Pinot would also like this course usually and Pinot is overdue for a good TT.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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If I was Valverde, I would go all out to show Movistar that I was the leader and tell short ar$e that he can dom for me the rest of race. I would be getting really pi$$ed off with him doing nothing but getting dragged around these stages whilst he goes around pretending to be the leader.

The only thing I can see happening this Vuelta is Short arSe will somehow do a Giro Froome and gain enough time on one stage to win him the overall and him pretending that was his plan all along.


I'm hoping Yates will have a good race along with MAL and Krusher to kick the Movistar boys off the podium.

 

[Squire]

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Porte ftw, kicking off the greatest final week resurrection in the Vuelta since VDB in 1999.

Oh, come on, there's a more recent Vuelta final week resurrection that makes VDB's final week look like Yates in the Giro.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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The only thing I can see happening this Vuelta is Short **** will somehow do a Giro Froome and gain enough time on one stage to win him the overall and him pretending that was his plan all along.

Who?

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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The only thing I can see happening this Vuelta is Short **** will somehow do a Giro Froome and gain enough time on one stage to win him the overall and him pretending that was his plan all along.

Who?

Short ar$e (Quintana)

 

[Laplaz]

The TT actually looks easier than it actually is...

 

[Escarabajo]

So La Vuelta hiding again the hills in the profiles??

 

[Red Rick]

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The TT actually looks easier than it actually is...

So you're trying to tell me it's basically as hard as the one in the Tour, but with a very different y axis

I had noticed it was quite rolling, but not that it was this hilly.

I remember complaining that Dumoulin should've picked the Vuelta over a Tour he couldn't win. Now I'm sad he's not there. Would have made this Vuelta much crazier, especially if he'd had a crap team again.