Vuelta a España Vuelta 2026 route rumours

[Red Rick]

At this point, I am not convinced there are 21 stages worth of potentially interested towns/regions that have no problem with hosting a race that features IPT. Even among those that do not support a ban on IPT, I doubt there will be many who are interesting in paying to host a very obvious target for protests.

Wonder what the legal implications are then, as IPT are presumably auto invited and its owner may be spiteful enough to just make it a lawsuit if they're uninvited.

 

[houtdffan]

would ASO consider a tour of Europe if Spain does get the boot by the UCI?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Wonder what the legal implications are then, as IPT are presumably auto invited and its owner may be spiteful enough to just make it a lawsuit if they're uninvited.

There is a good chance that Adams would sue over any move against him/IPT, let alone a situation where he has an obvious case like the Spanish races staying in the WT but IPT being barred. Something is going to have to give somewhere, though - nobody giving an inch simply results in the status quo collapsing, a whole lot of things giving as a result and thereby a whole lot of people losing feet rather than inches.

 

[Red Rick]

There is a good chance that Adams would sue over any move against him/IPT, let alone a situation where he has an obvious case like the Spanish races staying in the WT but IPT being barred. Something is going to have to give somewhere, though - nobody giving an inch simply results in the status quo collapsing, a whole lot of things giving as a result and thereby a whole lot of people losing feet rather than inches.

I forgot when WC's get announced, but perhaps it's an option to negotiate a financial compensation for not getting the Vuelta/Spanish races WC.

Unless the same thing starts happening in non Spanish races ofcourse, then the situation does become completely untenable.

 

[Netserk]

We could have a year without races in Spain. Then I think we'd be back to normal in 2027.

 

[Red Rick]

We could have a year without races in Spain. Then I think we'd be back to normal in 2027.

You'd kill Spanish cycling and give the protesters everything they want

 

[Netserk]

I forgot when WC's get announced, but perhaps it's an option to negotiate a financial compensation for not getting the Vuelta/Spanish races WC.

Unless the same thing starts happening in non Spanish races ofcourse, then the situation does become completely untenable.

Israel will be a WT team for the next 3 years, no wildcards involved.

 

[Netserk]

You'd kill Spanish cycling and give the protesters everything they want

If that is what the Spanish Government wants, they should own it.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

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In addition, trying to ban racing in Spain would 1) be just as vulnerable to legal challenges and 2) drive ASO away from you, which could also straight up kill the UCI itself.

 

[yaco]

The wider implication is that you may not have international sport in Spain until a decision is made in the food chain above the UCI.

 

[YavorD]

Not sure if that's the perfect thread to ask, but since the Tour starts is Spain, can we have some implications or even a change for the Grand depart?

 

[ice&fire]

The wider implication is that you may not have international sport in Spain until a decision is made in the food chain above the UCI.

Getting Spanish races out of the WT is not the same as not having international cycling in Spain. The Grandissima Volta a Portugal is still open to non-Portuguese teams.

 

[Netserk]

In addition, trying to ban racing in Spain would 1) be just as vulnerable to legal challenges and 2) drive ASO away from you, which could also straight up kill the UCI itself.

Can Spain credibly commit to secure races next year? If it's unsecure to race in Spain, racing cannot take place.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not sure if that's the perfect thread to ask, but since the Tour starts is Spain, can we have some implications or even a change for the Grand depart?

The Tour will likely move the depart back to France as the Spanish authorities won't be able to guarantee smooth racing. The question is: will it be better in France? Vuelta events can encourage others and there are a lot of Muslims in France.

 

[Faserr]

Not sure if that's the perfect thread to ask, but since the Tour starts is Spain, can we have some implications or even a change for the Grand depart?

Yes, of course. I think they will have to decide about that in the next 3-4 months.

With the developing conflict between the UCI and the spanish goverment it doesn't look really good for the TDF grand depart and the vuelta.

 

[Netserk]

The Tour will likely move the depart back to France as the Spanish authorities won't be able to guarantee smooth racing. The question is: will it be better in France? Vuelta events can encourage others and there are a lot of Muslims in France.

If the Vuelta gets cancelled, the Tour can take the Vuelta's Gran Salida from Monaco.

 

[Red Rick]

Can Spain credibly commit to secure races next year? If it's unsecure to race in Spain, racing cannot take place.

The solution is simple.

Petulant Whiners United goes out next time, and we all wave Catalan flags around

 

[houtdffan]

If the Vuelta gets cancelled, the Tour can take the Vuelta's Gran Salida from Monaco.

That;s what I was thinking with a stage 1 ITT like 2019, followed by the southern Alps.

This allows them to completely avoid the Pyrenees

 

[ice&fire]

The solution is simple.

Petulant Whiners United goes out next time, and we all wave Catalan flags around

This reminds me one of the greatest quotes by Pedro Delgado commentating the just finished Vuelta: Flag manufacturers and dealers have made great business these days.

 

[Red Rick]

This reminds me one of the greatest quotes by Pedro Delgado commentating the just finished Vuelta: Flag manufacturers and dealers have made great business these days.

We would finally make a literal false flag operation

 

[ice&fire]

We would finally make a literal false flag operation

It's all been a false flag operation the last three weeks

 

[ice&fire]

Full Vuelta stage within Andorra next year, and a TDF stage in 2027.

El Tour de França tornarà a Andorra per setena vegada al 2027

La ronda francesa visitarà el país per setè cop el 2027 i la Vuelta tornarà l’any vinent amb una etapa íntegra

www.diariandorra.ad

 

[Netserk]

Full Vuelta stage within Andorra next year, and a TDF stage in 2027.

El Tour de França tornarà a Andorra per setena vegada al 2027

La ronda francesa visitarà el país per setè cop el 2027 i la Vuelta tornarà l’any vinent amb una etapa íntegra

www.diariandorra.ad

I hope that includes the original MoraBanc combo of climbs.

Rabassa before Comella would be a good addition.

 

[OlavEH]

Full Vuelta stage within Andorra next yea

Oh yeah! Finally a proper Andorra stage again after this "half-assed" Andorra stages the last couple of times.

I hope that includes the original MoraBanc combo of climbs.

Within Andorra would mean no Envalira? But Rabassa, Gallina, Beixalis in addition to Ordino and Comella. Finish either at Arinsal (after Beixalis) or Els Cortals (after Beixalis and Ordino).

 

[Netserk]

Envalira is within Andorra, yes. It's specifically the combo that was originally planned only that I'm most interested in. Would work fine with a finish in Pal, as it's not supposed to be about the last climb.