Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 11: ElPozo Alimentacion - Cabo de Gata, 191.2k

[yaco]

He already did attack. And the later stages better allow for the next in line to attack.

History shows that when Yates is not at his best level that he follows, rather than attacks.

Anyway, I am interested in how Merlier sprints today because it's the furtherest he's been in a GT.

 

[Bonimenier]

History shows that when Yates is not at his best level that he follows, rather than attacks.

He was the first GC rider to attack this Vuelta though.

 

[search]

there's still some proper crosswind on mainly open roads forecast for the finish (10k to go when turning south), btw, but unfortunately it has weakened a bit compared to the original forecast of 20+ kph:

For splits to happen it probably has to pick up a big again, but it's still likely to make the finish very nervous.

For whatever reason, this is only a 30pt stage, but the "expected mass sprint arrival" rule will still be applied. So gaps are counted on from 3s only.

 

[Izzyeviel]

it's a shame, but what solution do you see? If he stays in, infects Rodriguez, and he falls sick and loses half an hour, what have we (or the team) won?

Well, Maijka at the tour was asymptomatic & well, UAE risked it. I do wonder what is different or what i'm missing.

 

[search]

Well, Maijka at the tour was asymptomatic & well, UAE risked it. I do wonder what is different or what i'm missing.

yes, this is possible in the Vuelta as well. If the virus load is low, the rider can continue.

No idea if Ineos arranged a test for this. Bora did, and Bennett's was too high.

 

[sir fly]

More than the harm to their personal and team's ambitions, the latest abandons make life easier for QS.

 

[Izzyeviel]

It's amazing how these riders were able to put in such good performances despite having C19! Maybe, just maybe cycling should move on like every other sport, this is seriously going to kill cycling. C19 is not the same as 2 years ago, back then we didn't know how bad it was, now we know it's mild and getting milder......
I've been told off before because I've spoken about it, but it's having such an impact on the race now...
Let alone the riders, who've trained and put in so much work all year only to be pulled out by an illness that if they didn't even know they had. Just treat this like any other mild virus otherwise this is really going to kill the sport!
Rant over

Ignoring the misinformation on display here, teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars every year ensuring their riders arrive at races in peak form & with the best prep. The idea that they should ignore covid & let riders race whilst ill & are highly infectious (which then severely hampers the riders/team performance) is nonsensical.

You wouldn't argue someone with concussion should be allowed to race, why are you arguing someone with a potential fatal/life changing/highly infectious virus be allowed to race?

Riding with an illness & or injury is dumb. You're not just potentially harming yourself, but others too. Do we really want to see Roglic win because a flu ridden rider crashed out Remco?

 

[tobydawq]

I wouldn't know why. Yates was already 5 minutes down, Sivakov was 7 minutes down. He blew them away on every MTF and the ITT. If he doesn't bonk on Sierra Nevada, those guys would not have made any difference. I think it would be a completely different story if Remco got covid and Mas ended up winning. In that case you would really get the impression he only won because of Covid.

I would certainly, personally, not hold an asterisk on his win. I have seen the first ten days and do remember how races have gone.

Let's hope everyone will do the same (or, let's rather hope that the cases will wane off like they eventually did in Tour de Suisse and not affect more from the top 10).

 

[tobydawq]

Ignoring the misinformation on display here, teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars every year ensuring their riders arrive at races in peak form & with the best prep. The idea that they should ignore covid & let riders race whilst ill & are highly infectious (which then severely hampers the riders/team performance) is nonsensical.

You wouldn't argue someone with concussion should be allowed to race, why are you arguing someone with a potential fatal/life changing/highly infectious virus be allowed to race?

Riding with an illness & or injury is dumb. You're not just potentially harming yourself, but others too. Do we really want to see Roglic win because a flu ridden rider crashed out Remco?

Isn't the final phrase just a teeny tiny bit of a stretch?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

It’s a shame for all those guys who give a lot just to be forced to drop, but really think that’s for the better, even with mild to no symptoms they still carry a nasty virus and no one knows the impact on their health of having them making huge physical efforts! It could be dangerous for them and even life threatening! As soon as they have it, even if without symptoms the body starts to fight the virus so they spend much more energy, riding and fighting it at the same time.

People also seem to forget about long covid which can basically stop your carreer or who knows, might be able to end it. If the test says a rider is infectious I think it is a very easy and sensible decision to take them out of the race.

 

[noob]

Nah - Bike Exchange ended the 2014 Giro with two riders.

What happened that year? :O Mass crash?

 

[sir fly]

What happened that year? :O Mass crash?

Mass extinction!

 

[ashhutch1997]

Ignoring the misinformation on display here, teams spend hundreds of thousands of dollars every year ensuring their riders arrive at races in peak form & with the best prep. The idea that they should ignore covid & let riders race whilst ill & are highly infectious (which then severely hampers the riders/team performance) is nonsensical.

You wouldn't argue someone with concussion should be allowed to race, why are you arguing someone with a potential fatal/life changing/highly infectious virus be allowed to race?

Riding with an illness & or injury is dumb. You're not just potentially harming yourself, but others too. Do we really want to see Roglic win because a flu ridden rider crashed out Remco?

It's not misinformation, I actually happen to be pretty knowledgeable on this subject. But I'm not going to discuss this anymore on here and I have deleted that post.

 

[Bonimenier]

Nah - Bike Exchange ended the 2014 Giro with two riders.

Even more recently LTS finished with two as well in the Giro of last year.

 

[sir fly]

There were no spoons in the paleolith, Carlton.

 

[Poursuivant]

Will be an impressive win for Remco, but obviously no Simon Yates means it has a huge asterisk. Had him right where he wanted him. Shame.

 

[sir fly]

Will be an impressive win for Remco, but obviously no Simon Yates means it has a huge asterisk. Had him right where he wanted him. Shame.

Nah...
Sivakov placed them both on the range.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Isn't the final phrase just a teeny tiny bit of a stretch?

Riders make enough dumbass mistakes when they're fit & healthy which then results in mass crashes & race abandoning injuries. To have people ride in the peloton who may or not be fully with it is wrong.

 

[Bonimenier]

Oh no that seems over for Alaphilippe

 

[glassmoon]

jeez Ala... again...

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

No not again!

 

[Tim Cahill]

That's a *** disaster

He was coming into excellent form

 

[houtdffan]

big blow to Remco

 

[RedheadDane]

 

[Izzyeviel]

I cursed the peloton. Oops.