Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2022, stage 18: Trujillo - Alto de Piornal, 192.0k

[Wvv]

I granted Gesink the victory, but I'm more delighted with Remco. Winning in the leader's jersey so deep into the race, awesome.

 

[303pbmf]

I thought Remco went pretty deep following mas. Hope he does not regret this.

I also thought the two of them were going to let gesink win…

Regret what? Staying and taking some time over his only true competition left?

 

[HelloDolly]

Mas you absolute ***

Evenepol could not have gone round Gesink so ?

Mas attacked and attacked but the Remco fan boys have nothing to say but denegrating rubbish about him....Sean Kelly gave hime due praise

if we said about Evenepoand what you Remco fanboys say about Mas we'd be called haters

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

Hm, now I wait for the whining by Remco fans! After all Roglic was so horrible and unfair last Sunday to Sierra Nevada, so of course for the Remcofans today must have been a highly unfair action too. Right? Of course it wasn't, it's cycling...but will be nice to see how the Remco-obsessed measure everything differently.

 

[HelloDolly]

mas gets flak (the most from spaniards btw) because he has an unlikable personality and rides conservatively to put it mildly

Actually Mas is one of the really nice guys ..a genuine lovely person

 

[RedheadDane]

Ayuso getting ill?!

That would be some *** bad luck, considering he was able to continue riding with covid.

 

[fox]

mas gets flak (the most from spaniards btw) because he has an unlikable personality and rides conservatively to put it mildly

Can you tell us a bit more about his personality. I have never talked to the guy so I would like to know why Mas is such a tw*t

 

[perico]

Classy by Mas to apologize to Gesink for ruining the stage win, but he didn't need to apologize. He rode a great race today and this happens just about every GT where the favorites go all out and catch the break at the line. Remco is just too strong this Vuelta with this type of parcours.

Besides, not many people thought Mas would be on the podium here after his TDF. All anyone heard about in the buildup to the Vuelta was Remco, Roglic, Higuita, Almeida, Carapaz, Hindley...

 

[HelloDolly]

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[Carrick-On-Seine]

Evenepol could not have gone round Gesink so ?

Mas attacked and attacked but the Remco fan boys have nothing to say but denegrating rubbish about him....Sean Kelly gave hime due praise

if we said about Evenepoand what you Remco fanboys say about Mas we'd be called haters

Are you calling Red Rick a Remco fanboy? Lol.

 

[Nick2413]

That whole stage was a blast to watch. Having so many different riders attacking on the final climb did feel like a classics race.

 

[Volderke]

Hm, now I wait for the whining by Remco fans! After all Roglic was so horrible and unfair last Sunday to Sierra Nevada, so of course for the Remcofans today must have been a highly unfair action too. Right? Of course it wasn't, it's cycling...but will be nice to see how the Remco-obsessed measure everything differently.

Remco was OK with Gesink winning the stage, and he only did what he have to do (win the sprint).
I don't see many similarities with the Sierra Nevada stage...But then again, I found Roglic move perfectly fine.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepol could not have gone round Gesink so ?

Mas attacked and attacked but the Remco fan boys have nothing to say but denegrating rubbish about him....Sean Kelly gave hime due praise

if we said about Evenepoand what you Remco fanboys say about Mas we'd be called haters

I don't think Red Rick is an Ebevenopalo fanboy.

 

[yaco]

Gesink lost power in the last 1.5km or otherwise he wins the satge.

 

[Jagartrott]

Mas' final attack had real punch to it, and he also didn't give up after 200 m unlike previous efforts. I think he really got Evenepoel to the edge, but the road was too flat and the aerodynamic advantage too high at that point. He should've gone all in at 5 km to go, not 1 km. But OK, finally he did try at least.

Evenepoel managed well to contain himself (mostly), which probably took some effort as it goes against all his instincts. It was indeed up to Mas to attack, and Evenepoel took advantage of it like a veteran.

I feel very sorry for Rodriguez, who I guess will only suffer more and shed more time the coming two days. Cycling is hard (also: Vine, Gesink).

 

[Escarabajo]

Classy by Mas to apologize to Gesink for ruining the stage win, but he didn't need to apologize. He rode a great race today and this happens just about every GT where the favorites go all out and catch the break at the line. Remco is just too strong this Vuelta with this type of parcours.

Besides, not many people thought Mas would be on the podium here after his TDF. All anyone heard about in the buildup to the Vuelta was Remco, Roglic, Higuita, Almeida, Carapaz, Hindley...

For a minute I thought that Mas did not have any intentions of passing Gesink at the line. And around went Remco. But that was just my gut feeling!

 

[perico]

not true


valverde
purito
indurain
landa
bilbao
zubeldia

and several others have been liked a lot


mas gets flak (the most from spaniards btw) because he has an unlikable personality and rides conservatively to put it mildly

I'm talking about in English speaking forums. Beloki was criticized every year as a conservative wheelsucker until 2003. Mancebo was always called a wheelsucker. Sastre was the cute little climber. Valverde as popular for his dog's nickname or whatever it was that Id'd him through Puerto. Contador was loathed (even here on this forum) when he was considered unbeatable. Zubeldia was an internet meme.

I'll give you Purito, and Landa, to a certain exent.

What the hell is so bad about Mas's personality? He's not known in cycling circles as a ***. The Columbian fans don't like him, but that is understandable that they would've taken Lopez's side, and they felt slighted by Movistar/Nairo situation which had nothing to do with Mas. Mas didn't come across that poorly in the first couple of seasons of the show, and it's not like he ordered the team to hold Lopez back or anything.

 

[ontheroad]

not true


valverde
purito
indurain
landa
bilbao
zubeldia

and several others have been liked a lot


mas gets flak (the most from spaniards btw) because he has an unlikable personality and rides conservatively to put it mildly

He might ride conservatively but a lot of that is down to him being always in the hunt for GC but not quite being at the very top top select level of rider. Take him out of the GC equation and he would be less consistent but would be able to ride with a lot more verve. He's doing the best with the legs he has and has at least tried on a few occasions this Vuelta. I was a bit gutted for Gesink losing the stage late on but in hindsight you can't really blame Mas for having a go.

As for the unlikable personality bit I've not seen any evidence to suggest anything of that nature, he seems like a decent guy to me.

 

[fox]

Great ride from all the riders involved. Too bad that you have to read so much hate for Mas, Evenpoel and others. I think they deserve more respect than this forum is giving them.

 

[Casper96]

Remco was OK with Gesink winning the stage, and he only did what he have to do (win the sprint).
I don't see many similarities with the Sierra Nevada stage...But then again, I found Roglic move perfectly fine.

Remco seemed OK not chasing down Gesink. When the Mas attack happened to put Gesink in range, and he had the legs to win the sprint for a stage win and bonus seconds, why not? It's not like he owed anything to Gesink this stage, and Mas is his closest competition. No reason to gift anything to either.

 

[Newcomer]

Hm, now I wait for the whining by Remco fans! After all Roglic was so horrible and unfair last Sunday to Sierra Nevada, so of course for the Remcofans today must have been a highly unfair action too. Right? Of course it wasn't, it's cycling...but will be nice to see how the Remco-obsessed measure everything differently.

Remco can afford to sit on Mas's wheel here because there is nobody in front that would threaten his gc lead, whereas at Sierra Nevada Mas is ahead and would threnten Roglic's second place before Remco's lead, therefore he should contribute to the chase theoretically. Of course he can say second place means nothing to him and let Remco do all the work but let's not pretend it is the most plausible excuse, come on.
Edit: By the way, it's not like Remco did not attack a few times on this climb...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Gesink lost power in the last 1.5km or otherwise he wins the satge.

No, that's just what a 15kmh speed difference does to a 20 s gap.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

GC

 

[Casper96]

For a minute I thought that Mas did not have any intentions of passing Gesink at the line. And around went Remco. But that was just my gut feeling!

Looked to me like his tank was empty - took a few pedals to match the Remco sprint and the power just wasn't there.

 

[Sciatic]

Classy by Mas to apologize to Gesink for ruining the stage win, but he didn't need to apologize. He rode a great race today and this happens just about every GT where the favorites go all out and catch the break at the line. Remco is just too strong this Vuelta with this type of parcours.

Besides, not many people thought Mas would be on the podium here after his TDF. All anyone heard about in the buildup to the Vuelta was Remco, Roglic, Higuita, Almeida, Carapaz, Hindley...

It’s amazing to think that if Remco for whatever reason wasn’t here, Mas would be crushing this Vuelta (but I know that’s not how it works).

 

[fox]

Remco seemed OK not chasing down Gesink. When the Mas attack happened to put Gesink in range, and he had the legs to win the sprint for a stage win and bonus seconds, why not? It's not like he owed anything to Gesink this stage, and Mas is his closest competition. No reason to gift anything to either.

It's the first mountain stage that is won by a GC rider and people are saying that they should have gifted it to Gesink. In every grand tour you have stages that are won by the early break and you have stages that are won by the GC riders. Why would it be different this time around? Because of some crazy dislike for Evenepoel or Mas????

 

[Big Doopie]

Regret what? Staying and taking some time over his only true competition left?

burning matches with stage 20 in the horizon. That’s all.