Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2024, stage 9: Motril - Granada, 179.2k

[Samamba]

Officialy acording spanish TVE, he crashed, I thin at the begining of the first climb at Hazallana, but he joined the group quite far.

Yes cause race radio said it, but he didn't (Woods did). He just unclipped. It didn't hinder his performance.

 

[Gigs_98]

I don't agree. I think he's more likely to finish in the top-5 than not.

Top 5 sure, but I was thinking about the win and I don't see that happening

 

[Descender]

Why are so many people talking like the Vuelta hasn't done the Purche/Hazallanas descent over and over?

When has there been a descent finish after Purche + Hazallanas before? It's been MTF like in 2022 with Purche + Hazallanas/all the way to Sierra Nevada or the other way around, like in 2017 with Hazallanas + Purche/all the way to Sierra Nevada.

 

[Unchained]

If you look at the ultimate groupings of today's finish, lots of riders had a bad day.
Del Toro can enjoy now a completely different role for 2 weeks at the team's discretion.. He fell into the toilet today, no real chance of much. Many future stages fit his skill set and nobody will chase him, any chance for respect was lost today.. Future breakaways can include quality riders from biggest teams, w zero GC threat.. Great opportunity for guys to salvage something..

 

[Taxus4a]

So it seems O'Connor will win this after all. If they couldn't drop him on these long steep climbs, it's over.

He could fail another days..but yesterday he just pay a little to be a in a long break 2 days before. We will se, but is going to be very difficult. Roglic could get some secons and bonus in different stages, but he need minutes.

 

[Taxus4a]

Yes cause race radio said it, but he didn't (Woods did). He just unclipped. It didn't hinder his performance.

Thanks to clear up it...It was quite strange.

 

[Descender]

Because a mid-stage descent preceding a hard climb is not raced like a descent finish.

Exactly.

 

[Pannenkooky]

Great stage. Carapaz in beast mode; with a bit of luck he could have finished with Yates. Roglic can’t be too upset but he’s lucky he had help in the last 30km.

O’Connor raced smart but he also has great legs.

I realllyyy want to see Carapaz win a stage!

 

[Unchained]

Probably just an American thing, but love to hear an extended, gloves off take from Ted Nugent on bike racing, bike racers..almost comedy gold for sure..saw Dana White talking about soccer ( football) players, funny

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Couldn't watch the stage but I guess nothing important happened in the descents and the stage would've been as entertaining if it'd finished on top Sierra Nevada.

Mas nearly catapulted himself over the barriers into the depths, and lost his 1 minute lead to Roglic. Other than that, nothing much happened.

 

[Descender]

In that case maybe Carapaz or UAE didnt try from so far. But anyway thay dont have anything to lose, so maybe was a similar start.

And in that case Mas would have put 2 minutes to Roglic, maybe Landa was stronger at the end...maybe today, yes, would have been better to finish at Sierra Nevada.

Yeah I agree, and also just get rid of the pesky climbs in between, it just makes the riders tired. Just go _______/, as is tradition. While they're at it, they could have just started in Granada and we could've watched the entire 50km stage!

 

[Descender]

Mas nearly catapulted himself over the barriers into the depths, and lost his 1 minute lead to Roglic. Other than that, nothing much happened.

I know, I was being sarcastic.

It made the stage more interesting, entertaining, and eventful, as is almost always the case.

 

[Netserk]

Top 5 sure, but I was thinking about the win and I don't see that happening

So you only have O'Connor, Rogla & Mas as contenders for the title?

 

[Netserk]

Yeah I agree, and also just get rid of the pesky climbs in between, it just makes the riders tired. Just go _______/, as is tradition. While they're at it, they could have just started in Granada and we could've watched the entire 50km stage!

You know, I wouldn't mind a Sierra Nevada stage from Granada to Hoya de la Mora. I just so happened to trace one yesterday as part of a Vuelta that I'm brewing.

 

[valentius borealis]

Bahrain Victorious have posted that Tiberi's DNF was due to heat stroke.

 

[Descender]

You know, I wouldn't mind a Sierra Nevada stage from Granada to Hoya de la Mora. I just so happened to trace one yesterday as part of a Vuelta that I'm brewing.

Yeah this would be a great stage, though the loop before the final climb is a bit risky/short.

 

[Gigs_98]

So you only have O'Connor, Rogla & Mas as contenders for the title?

Pretty much. Now I don't think it's completely impossible for him to win, but I think the three you mentioned all have way better chances. I just don't think it's very probable that a guy doesn't look remotely like in gt winning shape on the first two climbing tests but then starts to not only hang on with the best climbers for the rest of the race but actually starts dropping them. I think by far the most likely scenario is him continuously losing time throughout the rest of the race and finishing somewhere outside the podium spots.

 

[Netserk]

Yeah this would be a great stage, though the loop before the final climb is a bit risky/short.

Yeah, but because the stage is so short, I don't expect the gruppetto to be more than 40 minutes behind at the top of the second climb. Heck, they'd probably need to be more than 45 minutes down after 84 km to be lapped. In that case, they'd fall for the time-cut anyway.
EDIT: Hmm, maybe more like 35'-40'.

 

[Netserk]

Pretty much. Now I don't think it's completely impossible for him to win, but I think the three you mentioned all have way better chances. I just don't think it's very probable that a guy doesn't look remotely like in gt winning shape on the first two climbing tests but then starts to not only hang on with the best climbers for the rest of the race but actually starts dropping them. I think by far the most likely scenario is him continuously losing time throughout the rest of the race and finishing somewhere outside the podium spots.

I think this first week has been so weird, circumstantial and with swings in form that I can easily imagine both Carapaz and Yates to be among the three strongest riders for the rest of the race.

 

[zlev11]

Someone posted a piece in the Roglic thread that said yesterday he did say it was hurting after the stage.

yes, he was very gracious in the post race interview too, said something to the effect of "yeah it was a good day today but tomorrow could be different, eh?"

 

[AnotherArmChair]

You said: “All the posters on here saying Ben O connor would lose so much time to Roglic today havent a clue.” So yes, I heard that as you saying “everyone,” though also knew you were using it as a euphemism.

Sorry meant alot of posters

 

[AnotherArmChair]

What a race ..almost everyday a GC contenders disappears from the top 10 and completely out of contention and every day someone (or more) goes in the break and rides in top 5

Its practically a topsy turvy Grand Tour and who will win no one knows

Its my kind of race

 

[staubsauger]

Van Eetvelt did not crash, just not good enough today.

They said he crashed!?

 

[Mako]

Since a couple of hours have passed since the stage, another take on a probably unpredictable race.
Getting Adam Yates and Richi Carapaz back in contention and the fact, that Roglic didn't look prime today makes things actually more complicated for BOC and AG2R. I think the peloton will be looking less at RBBH now and other teams will look to create more chances for themselves.

 

[Oldermanish]

Great stage. Carapaz in beast mode; with a bit of luck he could have finished with Yates. Roglic can’t be too upset but he’s lucky he had help in the last 30km.

O’Connor raced smart but he also has great legs.

I'd give Roglic credit for putting out the minimum effort to assure he had help in the last 30km.