was riding the giro a mistake ?

[Archibald]

to me, Vino is showing that it can be done. I think it may be more of a mental thing where riders are listening too much to the doom n gloom of all and sundry regarding a Giro/Tour double.

I see Evans more likely to pull it off, but needs a bit of luck. He did suffer at the Giro, but having been ill during it would make life far tougher as well as making it harder to recover in time for the Tour. Then comes the fractured elbow... He was doing well before that, so its hard to say how well he'd be doing now without that problem. I'd take a punt and put him in the dogfight with menchov n sanchez if he'd stayed in one piece...

 

[Ryaguas]

I think the organizers of Giro and the Vuelta should separate out more from the Tour. 2 months gap between all GTs instead of the 1 month now. Move Giro to April and Vuelta to October.

Uffff that is not ever going to happen... just because is tradition, Il SuperGiro has 92 editions, and La Gran Vuelta has 65 editions... traditions... just that... also the others points about the classics...

I dont think you ever saw Dolomites and Alps in April.

Really good point! Dolomites are like Le Tourmalet, Ventoux... etc...

It would be good to see Contador go for the double as if anyone could achieve it it would be him. Would also make the tour more exciting to see him turn up tired but alas he will most likely just focus on the tour for the rest of his days.

He is for sure to go for Giro - Tour next year... but I think that also depends about what happens this year's tour... this year I think that he will go for Tour - Vuelta... La Vuelta has some great climbs that AC likes like La Bola del Mundo near Madrid where he was training before the tour...

Vino isn't finding it hard.

He rode a tough Giro and finished 6th and is powering along for Alberto and on the verge of finishing top ten. So I guess, it can be done.

I think that depends about how well you know your body and Vino is one of the best in that subject... He choose a great schedule to recover and that is working...

Riding Il Giro was prolly a mistake if you had aspirations to the podium... Il Giro this year was a hell... far way tougher than La Grande Boucle... seems that this year all the GT were fighting about who has the tougher route... Il Giro added really mythicals climbs, Le Tour too and La Vuelta has added new really hard climbs and her route had A LOT of mountains...

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

i’m looking at the gc standing for basso (27th), evans (24th), wiggins(21st), sastre (15th)… all pre-tour favourites that rode the giro this year.

then i compare it to menchov who rode the giro last year but failed at the tour and decided to skip this year.

the difference is obvious and begs the question, wasn't the mistake obvious ?

only vino rode both this year and looks energetic though he never claimed the tour’s podium being his goal.


and now wiggins comes out and tells it straight - it was a mistake.

are ds and team managers that stupid or they respond to sponsor pressures and dont care about fooling us fans ?

stupid for riding the giro?
yeahh, tour =/= cycling.
Giro deserves respect, and any rider who choose the giro over the tour did not make a mistake, because it was a brilliant race.

I mean for someone like wiggans, who wanted the tour, then maybe. But yeah, this tour course was to hard for wiggans irregardless if he rode the giro.

Riding Il Giro was prolly a mistake if you had aspirations to the podium... Il Giro this year was a hell... far way tougher than La Grande Boucle... seems that this year all the GT were fighting about who has the tougher route... Il Giro added really mythicals climbs, Le Tour too and La Vuelta has added new really hard climbs and her route had A LOT of mountains...

certainly is looking like a great GT year.
Giro was amazing, this tour has actually been pretty good imo and the vuelta looks promising. Trying to figure out who is gonna be contending this one.
This year the cobbles were the dull events.

 

[Ryaguas]

to me, Vino is showing that it can be done. I think it may be more of a mental thing where riders are listening too much to the doom n gloom of all and sundry regarding a Giro/Tour double.

Also I think that coming to La Grande Boucle w/o aspirations to make podium, and just only to help the leader, realeased a lot of pressure from him, if he can make a top ten great... that makes you to think "wow what would had happen if Vino had ridden Le Tour for a top 5?"

 

[hrotha]

I don't see how winning a stage and wearing the pink jersey would be a mistake when it's clearly going to be the highlight of Wiggins' season.

 

[Ryaguas]

This year the cobbles were the dull events.

Totally! Instead cobbles I would like a ICTT like Alpe D'Huez!

 

[avantage]

No, they did not make a mistake when they raced the Giro. It was The ****, the best GT in 20 years.

They just made a mistake if they thought they would do well in the Tour.

As for Wiggins: He wasn't racing the Giro, just rode it. His Tour is not wht it is because of that. I think next year with no Giro his Tour will be silimar to this year's. What he should do is race the Giro/Vuelta and try to win those. No much chance in the Tour. He is big, but he ain't Indurain.

 

[kurtinsc]

Uffff that is not ever going to happen... just because is tradition, Il SuperGiro has 92 editions, and La Gran Vuelta has 65 editions... traditions... just that... also the others points about the classics...

Just a point... the Vuelta tradition was actually to ride it in May. It didn't switch to September until 1995.

 

[roundabout]

Basso won - doubt that he will think that doing the Giro was a mistake.

Evans had to get points for BMC so he had to do 2 GT. Also his injury certainly had an effect.

Sastre - i have no idea about his season planning, underraced for the Giro, injured there, relatively late in deciding to ride the Tour. Did Cervelo's invite hinge on his participation?

Wiggins was a fluke.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

^ in terms of sastre i simply believe we have seen the best of him.. he's on the descent of his career now.