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WC Ponferrada 2014. Altimetry

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I don't perceive the courses like this, it's ridiculous to use such a climb in the Worlds' TT. As for a RR it would be good to use this climb if only it won't be a mtf
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.

Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.
 
El Pistolero said:
Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.

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also such hard parcours for the worlds will completely change the GT scenario for the entire year, i mean who in his right mind will peak for the tour and then go onto vacation when the worlds suit them so well?

maybe even andy tries to peak again after july!!! i mean can you even imagine that?
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.

I think is gonna be a really nice ITT, with 30 Km really flat and, no many bents and after that this climb (firt part of Morredero Climb) to compesate it.

Nobody is going to know the podium in avance like this year
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, shameless hometown favouritism. But it's a nice challenge for Tony M.

Disagree, an isolated year a climbing time trial could be interesting. Tony Martin and Cancellara making time before the climb against Contador...:cool: Even Wiggo if he isn't to old.
 
El Pistolero said:
Yeah, because Cancellara and Tony Martin don't get enough courses thrown in their favour right? :)

It's about time for a non-flat tt, now we at least won't know who will win unlike other years.
Of course we know who will win it, how can Contador possibly lose this? I think it's obvious that this course was created with him in mind: not too long, and very hard. I like this profile, but come on... if these were the times of Miguel Indurain we'd have seen a very long, flat TT in his home Worlds.

I was speaking about hometown favouritism, how could this have happened to Tony Martin :confused: Cancellara won his home Worlds, but the course wasn't really tailor made for him... he was just the best time trialist in the world at that time.
 
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Of course we know who will win it, how can Contador possibly lose this? I think it's obvious that this course was created with him in mind: not too long, and very hard.

I was speaking about hometown favouritism, how could this have happened to Tony Martin :confused: Cancellara won his home Worlds, but the course wasn't really tailor made for him... he was just the best time trialist in the world at that time.

- The race takes place in 2014. Who knows, Contador might already suck then.

- The race takes place in 2014. Perhaps a new climber will surpass even Contador.

- Cancellara has proven to also be good in hilly time trials.

- Same goes for Tony Martin

- It would be good to see a different winner than these 2 for once.

- I'm glad it's not a flat or slightly hilly time trial for once.

- If the sprinters deserve a flat WC like so many people agreed, then why don't the climbers deserve a mountainous time trial?

And every year it's a time trial that suits Cancellara and Martin the best. Let someone else have a shot :) Yes, I know you were speaking about hometown favoritism, I was speaking about favoritism in general which is far worse. I can't even remember the last time there was a WC time trial with a mountain in it.
 
El Pistolero said:
- The race takes place in 2014. Who knows, Contador might already suck then.

- The race takes place in 2014. Perhaps a new climber will surpass even Contador.
Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.

- Cancellara has proven to also be good in hilly time trials.
If there's a descent to make up for time lost in the climb, yes. But there's no way he'll win this.

- Same goes for Tony Martin
Tony M. could possibly, maybe be a minor threat to Contador. But he's guaranteed to lose at least a minute on that climb alone.
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.


If there's a descent to make up for time lost in the climb, yes. But there's no way he'll win this.


Tony M. could possibly, maybe be a minor threat to Contador. But he's guaranteed to lose at least a minute on that climb alone.

Robert Gesink could come out of retirement for that race and dominate. The Dutch would finally be able to do something in a WC.
 
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El Pistolero said:
- If the sprinters deserve a flat WC like so many people agreed, then why don't the climbers deserve a mountainous time trial?

the climbers are climbers and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in every tt for the next year. I can agree with your statement only in the case of the RR
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.

Yeah, that never happens in cycling huh. By the way it's 3 years instead of 2.
 
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Kvinto said:
the climbers are climbers and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in every tt for the next year. I can agree with your statement only in the case of the RR

The sprinters are sprinters and it is not necessary for them to wear a rainbow jersey in respected one day races.

There's still a whole lot of flat before the climb in the time trial, pretty balanced. I don't see the difference with with the time trial and road race. Are you saying someone like Contador wouldn't honor the rainbow jersey in all time trials he'd start? Contador is also a time trial specialist. Ever heard of Wiggins by the way? Heard he'll be favorite for this as well and came second this year on a flat boring time trial course. It really was an uninspired route, though still an exciting race because of Cancellara's downfall.
 
El Pistolero said:
Yeah, that never happens in cycling huh. By the way it's 3 years instead of 2.
Well, if the guy is to beat Contador, I'm sure we'll have heard of him already in two years :eek:

And no, that never happens in cycling. Contador is a hors catégorie climber, the only one at the moment as far as I'm concerned.

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Robert Gesink could come out of retirement for that race and dominate. The Dutch would finally be able to do something in a WC.
Robot Gesink will crush everyone with his iron leg.
 
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theyoungest said:
Well, if the guy is to beat Contador, I'm sure we'll have heard of him already in two years :eek:

And no, that never happens in cycling. Contador is a hors catégorie climber, the only one at the moment as far as I'm concerned.


Robot Gesink will crush everyone with his iron leg.

I'm pretty sure Contador established him self from a nobody to one of the most famous cyclists in a span of 2-3 years: 2004-2007.

Armstrong popped out of nowhere to be the best climber as well.
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah, in two years I'm sure we'll see a new best climber ever appear suddenly, out of nowhere.


If there's a descent to make up for time lost in the climb, yes. But there's no way he'll win this.


Tony M. could possibly, maybe be a minor threat to Contador. But he's guaranteed to lose at least a minute on that climb alone.

it happened with contador in 2007 :rolleyes:
 
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theyoungest said:
Yeah. And do you really think we'll see another Contador within, say, 10 years?

edit: sorry, I asked the wrong person, of course we will. Sergio Henao, Carlos Betancourt, Nairo Quintana...

But you can't deny the possibility of that happening. Cause you kinda did do just that...