What race...

[Willy_Voet]

...has the most asterisks besides winners' names over the last 10 or 25 years?

A look at the recent winners of Fleche is remarkable. I'm not sure the winners list of any other race is so completely stuffed with admitted users of some PED or sanctioned riders (lets keep it at admitted or sanctioned, though you can add an "I" for riders who were or are investigated)

2010 Cadel Evans (Aus)
2009 Davide Rebellin (Ita)*
2008 Kim Kirchen (Lux)
2007 Davide Rebellin (Ita)*
2006 Alejandro Valverde (Spa)*
2005 Danilo Di Luca (Ita)*
2004 Davide Rebellin (Ita)*
2003 Igor Astarloa (Spa)*
2002 Mario Aerts (Bel)
2001 Rik Verbrugghe (Bel)
2000 Francesco Casagrande*
1999 Michele Bartoli (Ita)
1998 Bo Hamburger (Den)*
1997 Laurent Jalabert (Fra)
1996 Lance Armstrong (USA)
1995 Laurent Jalabert (Fra)
1994 Moreno Argentin (Ita)
1993 Maurizio Fondriest (Ita)
1992 Giorgio Furlan (Ita)
1991 Moreno Argentin (Ita)
1990 Moreno Argentin (Ita)
1989 Claude Criquielion (Bel)
1988 Rolf Gölz (Ger)
1987 Jean-Claude Leclercq (Fra)
1986 Laurent Fignon (Fra)*

 

[Ferminal]

But I thought one-day riders didn't dope.

 

[Ferminal]

L-B-L

1983 Netherlands Steven Rooks (NED) Sem-France Loire
1984 Republic of Ireland Sean Kelly (IRL) Skil-Sem-Reydell
1985 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Sammontana-Bianchi
1986 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Sammontana-Bianchi
1987 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Gewiss-Bianchi
1988 Netherlands Adri van der Poel (NED) PDM-Concorde
1989 Republic of Ireland Sean Kelly (IRL) PDM-Concorde
1990 Belgium Eric Van Lancker (BEL) Panasonic-Sportlife
1991 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Ariostea
1992 Belgium Dirk De Wolf (BEL) Gatorade-Chateaux d'Ax
1993 Denmark Rolf Sørensen (DEN) Carrera Jeans-Tassoni
1994 Russia Eugeni Berzin (RUS) Gewiss-Ballan
1995 Switzerland Mauro Gianetti (SUI) Team Polti
1996 Switzerland Pascal Richard (SUI) MG Maglificio-Technogym
1997 Italy Michele Bartoli (ITA) MG Maglificio-Technogym
1998 Italy Michele Bartoli (ITA) Asics
1999 Belgium Frank Vandenbroucke (BEL) Cofidis
2000 Italy Paolo Bettini (ITA) Mapei-Quickstep
2001 Switzerland Oscar Camenzind (SUI) Lampre-Daikin
2002 Italy Paolo Bettini (ITA) Mapei-Quickstep
2003 United States Tyler Hamilton (USA) Team CSC
2004 Italy Davide Rebellin (ITA) Gerolsteiner
2005 Kazakhstan Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile Team
2006 Spain Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
2007 Italy Danilo Di Luca (ITA) Liquigas
2008 Spain Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne
2009 Luxembourg Andy Schleck (LUX) Team Saxo Bank
2010 Kazakhstan Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) Astana

And that's not counting Bettini and Bartoli who were Fuentes clients?

 

[filipo]

Dude, come on.

Post-1990, I can't count more than one winner that isn't/wasn't under suspicion. Bartoli? Aerts? Really?

 

[DirtyWorks]

...has the most asterisks besides winners' names over the last 10 or 25 years?

A look at the recent winners of Fleche is remarkable. I'm not sure the winners list of any other race is so completely stuffed with admitted users of some PED or sanctioned riders (lets keep it at admitted or sanctioned, though you can add an "I" for riders who were or are investigated)

1996 Lance Armstrong******** (USA)

Fixed that for you. It is well documented Armstrong 'developed' in a Junior program that doped. Why would a rider like Armstrong stop doping once he made it into the Euro peloton?

 

[Cobblestoned]

Fixed that for you. It is well documented Armstrong 'developed' in a Junior program that doped. Why would a rider like Armstrong stop doping once he made it into the Euro peloton?

Mark him with an asterisks, Willy, or you will be entering a world of pain.
I did not watch Floyd's face down in the muck so......

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

The TDF and Worlds are pretty bad.

You need to devise a typology: Convicted, Failed Test (but cleared), Accused, Implicated, Suspected, Rumoured. (C,F,A,I,S,R)

 

[Libertine Seguros]

How about the Vuelta a Asturias?

 

[Lanark]

L-B-L

1983 Netherlands Steven Rooks (NED) Sem-France Loire
1984 Republic of Ireland Sean Kelly (IRL) Skil-Sem-Reydell
1985 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Sammontana-Bianchi
1986 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Sammontana-Bianchi
1987 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Gewiss-Bianchi
1988 Netherlands Adri van der Poel (NED) PDM-Concorde
1989 Republic of Ireland Sean Kelly (IRL) PDM-Concorde
1990 Belgium Eric Van Lancker (BEL) Panasonic-Sportlife
1991 Italy Moreno Argentin (ITA) Ariostea
1992 Belgium Dirk De Wolf (BEL) Gatorade-Chateaux d'Ax
1993 Denmark Rolf Sørensen (DEN) Carrera Jeans-Tassoni
1994 Russia Eugeni Berzin (RUS) Gewiss-Ballan
1995 Switzerland Mauro Gianetti (SUI) Team Polti
1996 Switzerland Pascal Richard (SUI) MG Maglificio-Technogym
1997 Italy Michele Bartoli (ITA) MG Maglificio-Technogym
1998 Italy Michele Bartoli (ITA) Asics
1999 Belgium Frank Vandenbroucke (BEL) Cofidis
2000 Italy Paolo Bettini (ITA) Mapei-Quickstep
2001 Switzerland Oscar Camenzind (SUI) Lampre-Daikin
2002 Italy Paolo Bettini (ITA) Mapei-Quickstep
2003 United States Tyler Hamilton (USA) Team CSC
2004 Italy Davide Rebellin (ITA) Gerolsteiner
2005 Kazakhstan Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile Team
2006 Spain Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears
2007 Italy Danilo Di Luca (ITA) Liquigas
2008 Spain Alejandro Valverde (ESP) Caisse d'Epargne
2009 Luxembourg Andy Schleck (LUX) Team Saxo Bank
2010 Kazakhstan Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) Astana

And that's not counting Bettini and Bartoli who were Fuentes clients?

Altough his LBL victories were before it, Argentin was certainly a doper. He won what is probably the low point in doping history, the 1994 Fleche Wallone where three Gewiss riders dropped the rest of the peloton with 70 km to go (funnily enough the Italians had 8 riders in the top-10 of the Fleche that year, this year Nocentini was the best Italian on place 31), and had a full podium sweep. Although Argentin had most of his succes before the introduction of EPO, him riding (and still winning) while under the guidance of Ferrari at Ariostea and Gewiss is more than enough for an asterix.

 

[roundabout]

Wasn't Sorensen a Conconi (or was it Cecchini?) client by that point?

Same for Richard.

 

[The Hitch]

Some of you are forgetting one of the most obvious ones.

The doping movements most potent weapon.

The one they say no living man can conquer (undoped).

The one that strikes fear into all its competitors.

Youve seen it labbeled the tour for doping before.

93 2010 Ivan Basso (2nd win) Italy Liquigas
92 2009 Denis Menchov Russia Rabobank
91 2008 Alberto Contador Spain Astana
90 2007 Danilo Di Luca Italy Liquigas
89 2006 Ivan Basso Italy Team CSC
88 2005 Paolo Savoldelli (2nd win) Italy Discovery Channel
87 2004 Damiano Cunego Italy Saeco
86 2003 Gilberto Simoni (2nd win) Italy Saeco
85 2002 Paolo Savoldelli Italy Index-Alexia
84 2001 Gilberto Simoni Italy Lampre-Daikin
83 2000 Stefano Garzelli Italy Mercatone Uno
82 1999 Ivan Gotti (2nd win) Italy Polti
81 1998 Marco Pantani Italy Mercatone Uno
80 1997 Ivan Gotti Italy Saeco
79 1996 Pavel Tonkov Russia Ceramiche Panaria-Vinavil
78 1995 Tony Rominger Switzerland Mapei-GB-Latexco
77 1994 Eugeni Berzin Russia

 

[cleverhans]

I too noticed that Fleche Wallone is remarkable in that way. Look at the CN photo gallery of historical winners. It's like a doper's yearbook. There's like one photo in there that doesn't feature a confirmed doper...and the photo captioned something like "three teams that no longer exist" made me laugh out loud - dopers spread all over the road, as far as the eye can see! Hilarious...if it wasn't so pathetic.

 

[JPM London]

Wasn't Sorensen a Conconi (or was it Cecchini?) client by that point?

Same for Richard.

Sorensen was a Conconi client - and was noted as doing (I think) about 150-175,000 units of EPO that year - his most successful. By the way; his EPO use was described as "high, but far from as high as many other riders". Obviously if you ask Sorensen himself he'll still maintain he never doped - his willpower was his dope and he didn't need it as 1-day races were his specialty... Right...

Pascal Richard was not a Conconi client - at least not one of his initial 22 "Amateurs". Maybe he appeared in the Ferrari files?