What was Floyd thinking?

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ThaiPanda

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M Sport said:
And I shall add. Consider it a small financial penalty for your stupidity in actually believing he was innocent.

I totally agree. I liken it to the idiots that give money to preachers. You are right when you say it is probably a small amount of $ on average. I wish it was more, so it would kinda be like a$$hat financial darwinism.

FL has to say he didn't use testosterone, and his position on this subject is totally predictable.
 
The speculation about T being in banked blood has been around since late 2006. Unfortunately, the amounts involved don't make sense to skew the ratios the way they were reported -- there just isn't enough in the blood to cause what was reported. I think there are three legit possibilities. (1) he is still lying; (2) the tests really were botched; (3) he got spiked. I don't consider any of those beyond reasonable possibility.

His training diaries might reveal the truth about whether he is still lying, if and when they turn up as evidence.

-dB
 

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dbrower said:
The speculation about T being in banked blood has been around since late 2006. Unfortunately, the amounts involved don't make sense to skew the ratios the way they were reported -- there just isn't enough in the blood to cause what was reported. I think there are three legit possibilities. (1) he is still lying; (2) the tests really were botched; (3) he got spiked. I don't consider any of those beyond reasonable possibility.

His training diaries might reveal the truth about whether he is still lying, if and when they turn up as evidence.

-dB

I vote for the bolded one.

I'm surprised you even have the nuts to post on this subject.
 
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of course he's still lying. telling the truth could possibly open him up to wire fraud charges (fff). the truth of his personal involvement ain't gonna come out of floyd's mouth any time soon.
 
patricknd said:
of course he's still lying. telling the truth could possibly open him up to wire fraud charges (fff). the truth of his personal involvement ain't gonna come out of floyd's mouth any time soon.

I can tell you are not a lawyer. There is no way he could ever be convicted because he took donations for his legal fund. You can be guilty and still accept donations. There is no law against that.

Anyway, he wasn't accepting the money for being innocent. He was accepting the money to pay his legal bills.
 
dbrower said:
I think there are three legit possibilities. (1) he is still lying; (2) the tests really were botched; (3) he got spiked. I don't consider any of those beyond reasonable possibility.

I agree with you. I really think he might have been framed by the Tdf, the UCI, and/or the lab. I doubt the tests were botched. It seems like if something like this was done it would have been intentional.

Either that or he really was guilty of using a testosterone patch the night before. In which case he is an idiot for winning the stage, because then he would have had to have known he automatically would have gotten tested.

Anyway, I still like the guy regardless of what he might or might not have done.

I don't know how so many people can talk about Landis as if he was a serial killer or something. :rolleyes: In the grand scheme of things what he did (if he did it) was not all that terrible.
 
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I agree with you. I really think he might have been framed by the Tdf, the UCI, and/or the lab. I doubt the tests were botched. It seems like if something like this was done it would have been intentional.

Either that or he really was guilty of using a testosterone patch the night before. In which case he is an idiot for winning the stage, because then he would have had to have known he automatically would have gotten tested.

Anyway, I still like the guy regardless of what he might or might not have done.

I don't know how so many people can talk about Landis as if he was a serial killer or something. :rolleyes: In the grand scheme of things what he did (if he did it) was not all that terrible.

he's lying. He used the test to recover after bonking not planning on winning the stage, when he was busted he expected the results to be swept under the rug, when none of the above worked out for him he went on the defensive which continues to be debated amongst fans in places like this thread.