Armstrong was a decent classics rider and look how he went in the Grand Tours.saganftw said:he is a good classics rider so obviously thats how you get better in mountains also so poten...
wait a minute,i might have the things mixed up
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Has there ever been a thread in this forum where a Sky rider was mentioned without it going a bit wierd and clinic-y?!
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What on earth are you talking about? Valverde has always been good in the mountains. He finished on the podium of a GT in his 2nd year as a pro.
Taxus4a said:
What on earth are you talking about? Valverde has always been good in the mountains. He finished on the podium of a GT in his 2nd year as a pro.
Gigs_98 said:I don't know how he became that good but I have the feeling I have seen another rider who was suddenly a good climber and then dominating a gt, hm who was this guy and where there any similarities.
I have absolutely no idea
Valverde, Jalabert,...
You must take into consideration that most of british riders came form the track, it is the especiallity that was most popular there. Except Froome that grown in the high altitudes of norther Nairobi, riding among Lions with David Kinjah.
For that reason they are not classic riders that become climber, but the contrary, they are climbers that were track riders.
it is not exactly like that, becouse nor Wiggins nor Thomas are climbers, but it is more like this that how you said it.
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So I wouldn't read much into it. Maybe PRR-forum perceptions do not correlate well with reality. Or maybe team-first all-rounders and all-around 'nice guys' eventually gain a fanbase, no matter what colors they sport.
G's best recent comp so far outside Big George is probably Sylvain Chavanel, both 6ft, 11-stone National Champs and Algarve winners who had their first good high mountain tour stages around age 30, with good days in the breakaway preceding it. On a historical note were a lot of real all-rounders within the pelotons of the 80s and even more before then. A dying breed, the lot. Some where stars, but most were journeymen. So maybe a grand tour win is not quite as feasible as some seem to think midway through a Pyrenean spell. A grand tour stage win, on the other hand, may be fast approaching.
On a not entirely unrelated side note I think the decline of the all-rounder and the rise of the true mountain men has not been entirely due to specialization. The parcours seems to tilt ever more towards the Sky, despite the protestations of some.
No, but here are a couple comprehensively positive Hincapie threads in the forum:willbick said:
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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3324
So I wouldn't read much into it. Maybe PRR-forum perceptions do not correlate well with reality. Or maybe team-first all-rounders and all-around 'nice guys' eventually gain a fanbase, no matter what colors they sport.
G's best recent comp so far outside Big George is probably Sylvain Chavanel, both 6ft, 11-stone National Champs and Algarve winners who had their first good high mountain tour stages around age 30, with good days in the breakaway preceding it. On a historical note were a lot of real all-rounders within the pelotons of the 80s and even more before then. A dying breed, the lot. Some where stars, but most were journeymen. So maybe a grand tour win is not quite as feasible as some seem to think midway through a Pyrenean spell. A grand tour stage win, on the other hand, may be fast approaching.
On a not entirely unrelated side note I think the decline of the all-rounder and the rise of the true mountain men has not been entirely due to specialization. The parcours seems to tilt ever more towards the Sky, despite the protestations of some.
I can't see how either Thomas or Valverde can be mentioned in the same context as L. Jalabert.Taxus4a said:Gigs_98 said:I don't know how he became that good but I have the feeling I have seen another rider who was suddenly a good climber and then dominating a gt, hm who was this guy and where there any similarities.
I have absolutely no idea
Valverde, Jalabert,...
You must take into consideration that most of british riders came form the track, it is the especiallity that was most popular there. Except Froome that grown in the high altitudes of norther Nairobi, riding among Lions with David Kinjah.
For that reason they are not classic riders that become climber, but the contrary, they are climbers that were track riders.
it is not exactly like that, because nor Wiggins nor Thomas are climbers, but it is more like this that how you said it.
sienna said:I can't see how either Thomas or Valverde can be mentioned in the same context as L. Jalabert.
A lot of people can see it
How long Geraint Thomas pull today?
How much attacks neutralized by GT?
Strong, Strong, Strong...And it looks like that Geraint don't show any signal of tire.
2 years ago, Richie porte droped at Alps after endless of pull for 2 weeks.
Froome had a hungry lock, up his hand. Richie come back like a rocket. Pull again for Froome....
Ridiculous
See Geraint, I think more ridiculous things may happen
How much attacks neutralized by GT?
Strong, Strong, Strong...And it looks like that Geraint don't show any signal of tire.
2 years ago, Richie porte droped at Alps after endless of pull for 2 weeks.
Froome had a hungry lock, up his hand. Richie come back like a rocket. Pull again for Froome....
Ridiculous
See Geraint, I think more ridiculous things may happen
When you've done a whole Tour
with a fractured pelvis a day like
today might not seem that tough.
True Hardman is our Super G.
with a fractured pelvis a day like
today might not seem that tough.
True Hardman is our Super G.
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Yeah, there definitelly should be option Never because people are too overrating some guy who did good just few stages as a domestique
Sasquatch said:
Yeah, there definitelly should be option Never because people are too overrating some guy who did good just few stages as a domestique
Lmao just stumbled upon this thread and couldn't believe the last post was from 2015. Quite a bit has happened since then huh.
Oh my god, I got the right answer in the poll.
Good stuff from Geriatric Thomas. Pedaling those 71 kg of old meat up the mountains to the title of oldest Giro winner when basically everybody from his generation has either retired or fallen off a cliff (form-wise).
Btw, it's quite weird that nobody has posted in his thread for so long. Where are the fans of this man?
Let's found a new fanclub. I propose the name G-zers
People were so embarrassed that they didn't bother to do a follow up!!!
LOL!
Set it up on a tee.... the correct answer would be and I am just kidding....I don’t even remember this thread
It's because you are so old and your memory is so bad LOL
I plead the fifth and blame it on working night shift for 13 hours
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