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Where is Alberto Contador going?

Where will Alberto be in 2010?

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Don't be an a-s-s. Don't throw a hissy fit just because someone started a thread similar to yours from a few days ago and you're p-i-s-s-e-d off about it. Grow up. Very un-Australian.
 
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elapid said:
Don't be an a-s-s. Don't throw a hissy fit just because someone started a thread similar to yours from a few days ago and you're p-i-s-s-e-d off about it. Grow up. Very un-Australian.

i don' get what your saying?
 
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May be I am reading too much between the lines, but:

1. You're upset about the new Evans-VDB thread (see http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=2652) being similar to a thread you had previously posted and getting more responses than your thread

2. You start a thread on Where's Contador going, which has been done to death already.

Is it just a coincidence that you were annoyed that someone posted a similar thread to your Evans-VDB thread and you then start another thread on a thrashed out topic?
 
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May be I am reading too much between the lines, but:

1. You're upset about the new Evans-VDB thread (see http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=2652) being similar to a thread you had previously posted and getting more responses than your thread

2. You start a thread on Where's Contador going, which has been done to death already.

Is it just a coincidence that you were annoyed that someone posted a similar thread to your Evans-VDB thread and you then start another thread on a thrashed out topic?

1. I didn't really care that somebody had created another similar thread to mine because my old thread was on pg 3. I was only joking around on that post.

2. I don't see 1 thread at the moment talking about were contador is going on pg 1. None of those other threads had polls on them. It is an important fresh topic to talk about at the moment anyway.

Please lets talk about the topic of the thread.
I personally think that he will go to Caisse D epargne. He likes Caisse quite alot (e.g dauphine) and Valverde + Contador at any grand tour would be a very powerful 2 pronged attack. Caisse is also spanish so he will feel comfortable with the guys as he is the sam nationality as them.
 
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He'll go to Caddyshack cos here's the scoop him and LA are BFFL and all this "chat" between them is to increase the buzz around what will be the greatest team in cycling ever!!!
 
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I voted Katusha because I believe that the only real viable team on the list other than them is Garmin, and I just don't think they will be able to come together on the pink elephant.

Then again, I thought Cadel Evans had a shot at the podium of the TdF this year, so what do I know?
 
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1. I didn't really care that somebody had created another similar thread to mine because my old thread was on pg 3. I was only joking around on that post.

2. I don't see 1 thread at the moment talking about were contador is going on pg 1. None of those other threads had polls on them. It is an important fresh topic to talk about at the moment anyway.

Please lets talk about the topic of the thread.
I personally think that he will go to Caisse D epargne. He likes Caisse quite alot (e.g dauphine) and Valverde + Contador at any grand tour would be a very powerful 2 pronged attack. Caisse is also spanish so he will feel comfortable with the guys as he is the sam nationality as them.

I apologize that I was reading too much into it. My vote: Caisse.
 
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Caisse D Epargne. I just see him working better in a Spanish team, Especially after his experience in an American/Kazak team. The one year remaining on the sponsorship may be a problem though.

Would be interesting to see if Garmin would take him. :eek:
 
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Yep, Caisse for me too. Is that correct that they have only agreed so fund the team through 2010? If so, would have thought that the team would be ripe for Team Santander Alonso to take over from 2011. This has to be an easier option that trying to get 30 riders plus mechanics, soigneurs, dieticians, chefs, etc. signed up ready for next season.
 
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Caisse D'epargne - Banco Santander (new team for 2010) Can you picture having Valverde as domestique???:D

Guy just refused an offer from Astana, smart man. Those guys screwed him this year, lets make sure this doesn't happen again.:D:eek:
 
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Caisse D'epargne - Banco Santander (new team for 2010) Can you picture having Valverde as domestique???:D

Guy just refused an offer from Astana, smart man. Those guys screwed him this year, lets make sure this doesn't happen again.:D:eek:

Really? French and Spanish banks in joint sponsorship next season. That is strange! Agreed on turning down Astana although I think that it was more JB that screwed him over than the quys bankrolling (or not) the project.
 
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I would not put Astana out of the running. He may want out but those kazaks are stubborn. Plus the entertainment value of Contador and Vino on the same team would be quite fun. If Contador whined and attacked the integrity of JB in the press for the 6 months before the start of this years Tour imagine how bad his behavior will be if he is forced to stay on Astana next year with Vino. Besides the irony it would be a make for a much more exciting TDF if AC is on a weak team. The only downside to this scenario is if he starts questioning the integrity of the team again he just might find himself sitting at home during July.
 
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According to Susan at CN, the UCI are looking to extend Valverde's ban to all racing. If that is for 2 years, what impact might this have on Contador's decision making? If Valverde is not at Caisse (or whatever), this would weaken the team, certainly for the Classics (not AC's bag) and for the GT's since he's a good break away rider and half decent tester. I wonder if this strengthens the Garmin negotiating position?
 
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I like Caisse.

@TFF: I don't think Katusha has the $$ to bring Contador on board.

I read somewhere else that they did because of the riders who are no longer with them because of violations. However, what I read could have been a post on this forum, and if so, I wouldn't put so much as a nickel on it. I do think they have a certain openness that would be easier for Contador to work in.

Also, if Valverde encounters more problems riding, I think Caisse is clearly the most likely established team. However, if all that happens is Valverde cannot ride in Italy, then I think there are problems bringing Contador on board. Obviously I think he would like to ride for a Spanish team.
 
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If you boil it down to who gives him the best chance to win the tour next year, I think it is Garmin. What he needs most to compete against Saxobank and Radioshack is a team that can time trial. Garmin more than fits the bill. The fact that BW and VdV can climb just puts it way over the top.

If you factor in money, team politics, testing, and intra-squad agendas then it becomes more muddled.
 
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If you boil it down to who gives him the best chance to win the tour next year, I think it is Garmin. What he needs most to compete against Saxobank and Radioshack is a team that can time trial. Garmin more than fits the bill. The fact that BW and VdV can climb just puts it way over the top.

If you factor in money, team politics, testing, and intra-squad agendas then it becomes more muddled.

From a competition standpoint, I think that would make quite a fun Tour because the rivalry would be extreme considering that, while Lance apologized for minimizing VDV's 2008 result, I am sure he and his teammates would love to be the guys on the front hammering him into submission before Contador takes off on an attack Mr Armstrong didn't show he had the legs to follow this year, and won't next year either. Plus it is two American teams, and I heard somewhere that Lance and Contador don't like each other, but I cannot confirm that. Of course if it were that kind of showdown, I think Radiotrailer could count on Columbia for a bit of help.

However, I think there will be issues that make him on Garmin unlikely.
 

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From a competition standpoint, I think that would make quite a fun Tour because the rivalry would be extreme considering that, while Lance apologized for minimizing VDV's 2008 result, I am sure he and his teammates would love to be the guys on the front hammering him into submission before Contador takes off on an attack Mr Armstrong didn't show he had the legs to follow this year, and won't next year either. Plus it is two American teams, and I heard somewhere that Lance and Contador don't like each other, but I cannot confirm that. Of course if it were that kind of showdown, I think Radiotrailer could count on Columbia for a bit of help.

However, I think there will be issues that make him on Garmin unlikely.

I would assume that rumor came from that rag L'Equipe - not a reliable source like Twitter.

My money is still on Caisse - Valverde for the Vuelta and AC for the Tour, also I am sure there are enough contracts ending at the end of this season for Contador to bring in some of his loyal lieutenants.
 
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According to Susan at CN, the UCI are looking to extend Valverde's ban to all racing. If that is for 2 years, what impact might this have on Contador's decision making? If Valverde is not at Caisse (or whatever), this would weaken the team, certainly for the Classics (not AC's bag) and for the GT's since he's a good break away rider and half decent tester. I wonder if this strengthens the Garmin negotiating position?

I would expect Caisse to be able to find another non-yet-about-to-be-suspended Spanish rider to complement Contador. Aren't they the sole Spanish team with PT licence? I would expect them to have a pretty big talent pool to choose from, even with all the Puertos.

EDIT: Silly me. As I pointed out in another thread, EE is a Spanish team. I forgot them because they obviously haven't the same freedom in terms of recruitment.
 
I voted for Caisse. Spanish team, IIRC they finished 7th in the TTT, they have the riders to support AC.

Garmin doesn't seem like a good fit. Oh sure, they would help for the TTT, and he'd have good support riders, but Garmin is even more English-centric than Astana. Garmin has riders that don't speak English as their first langauge, but those riders are all very comfortable with English. AC had communication issues in Astana, and I think he's going to want to stay on a team where English is not the language of choice.
 
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I would not put Astana out of the running. He may want out but those kazaks are stubborn. Plus the entertainment value of Contador and Vino on the same team would be quite fun. If Contador whined and attacked the integrity of JB in the press for the 6 months before the start of this years Tour imagine how bad his behavior will be if he is forced to stay on Astana next year with Vino. Besides the irony it would be a make for a much more exciting TDF if AC is on a weak team. The only downside to this scenario is if he starts questioning the integrity of the team again he just might find himself sitting at home during July.

You probably should read the front page.
 
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If you boil it down to who gives him the best chance to win the tour next year, I think it is Garmin. What he needs most to compete against Saxobank and Radioshack is a team that can time trial. Garmin more than fits the bill. The fact that BW and VdV can climb just puts it way over the top.

If you factor in money, team politics, testing, and intra-squad agendas then it becomes more muddled.

Even excluding the TTT, which may not be in the next Tour, he needs a strong team with super-domestiques like VdV, Millar, Zab and Wiggins. Certainly Caisse can improve its team to make it a strong contender, but until that issue with Valverde is resolved, I don't consider them as a serious contender for his services.
 
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I would assume that rumor came from that rag L'Equipe - not a reliable source like Twitter.

My money is still on Caisse - Valverde for the Vuelta and AC for the Tour, also I am sure there are enough contracts ending at the end of this season for Contador to bring in some of his loyal lieutenants.

Lol at the L'Equipe/Twitter quip. That attitude DOES seem pretty prevalent among a certain set.

Also, at Caisse he wouldn't even need to import many strong domestiques so long as they keep some of the bigger guns on board. (But then again, Contador could probably win the Tour with Cofidis. All he really needs to do is ride the Saxo/Radio train and then follow Schleck when he goes.)
 
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I voted for Caisse. Spanish team, IIRC they finished 7th in the TTT, they have the riders to support AC.

Garmin doesn't seem like a good fit. Oh sure, they would help for the TTT, and he'd have good support riders, but Garmin is even more English-centric than Astana. Garmin has riders that don't speak English as their first langauge, but those riders are all very comfortable with English. AC had communication issues in Astana, and I think he's going to want to stay on a team where English is not the language of choice.

Why does everyone keep focusing on whether a team is English/American? His problems didn't stem from language, they stemmed from the relationship between Armstrong and JB. He communicated just fine and I've heard that he speaks much better English than folks realize--he just didn't do English media this year for obvious reasons.