Question Who is the third best GT rider?

[CyclistAbi]

I'm surprised. I thought you would say Vingegaard.

As said, lately polls are crooked and Rogla either isn't included or some other riders are left out. One can not simply vote, so we have to work with what we got. I guess.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It's a BS poll to engage offseason speculation. Of course the rules are malleable. Kinda like how politics and popular musical performers are. We're habit-bound to have an opinion.
I agree about the Christmas deadline since no news will modify rabid alliances in the fan base.

Totally.

 

[James M]

As said, lately polls are crooked and Rogla either isn't included or some other riders are left out.

Who is crooking them, Abi? Is it individuals behind this, or dare I say maybe a syndicate? Nevertheless, it sounds like an issue. You should contact admins.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Who is crooking them, Abi? Is it individuals behind this, or dare I say maybe a syndicate? Nevertheless, it sounds like an issue.

It's the current ruling cast, mostly people associated with fandom of UAE and Visma. The power corrupted them. In 2026 season, we the RBH and beyond will stop this segregation and polls and discussions will again include all top dogs and cats. One will simply be able to vote again.

 

[Peter von]

based on this season, which is the best representation of "right now" it's between Almeida, Yates and Lipowich, the three guys that have finished best non-pogi or Vingegaard in the three GTs.

I voted Almeida because he gave Vingegaard a really good run for his money in Spain. And it's the most recent result.

But I do think this is temporary and Remco will be clear top 3 by this time next year.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You should contact admins either way. Doesnt Visma have a history of screwing Rogla? This stinks Abi. So once again, it's all on Rogla to right the world, classic.

This has nothing to do with admins, Jumbo Visma will always be written in golden letters, Rogla once again putting on the BOSS cloth and putting s.Oliver and Nike in their place.

 

[Cycling111]

It's the current ruling cast, mostly people associated with fandom of UAE and Visma. The power corrupted them. In 2026 season, we the RBH and beyond will stop this segregation and polls and discussions will again include all top dogs and cats. One will simply be able to vote again.

You're talking as if Roglic hadn't spent most of his career at Visma. And of course, if he were still there, you wouldn't be saying that.

 

[CyclistAbi]

You're talking as if Roglic hadn't spent most of his career at Visma. And of course, if he were still there, you wouldn't be saying that.

Under Rogličes ruling there was no such segregation going on in terms of the polls, one could vote freely, on who is No.1.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

This has nothing to do with admins, Jumbo Visma will always be written in golden letters, Rogla once again putting on the BOSS cloth and putting s.Oliver and Nike in their place.

No worries. Next year Rogla will be triumphant again proving that Vingo should be included in the poll: as Lipo's mentor he will promote his teammate to the 2nd place in GT hierarchy.

 

[CXXC]

On current wins Primoz , on future wins Remco.

 

[CyclistAbi]

No worries. Next year Rogla will be triumphant again proving that Vingo should be included in the poll: as Lipo's mentor he will promote his teammate to the 2nd place in GT hierarchy.

I mean RBH will have one rider that finished second at the Tour and two who finished third. Anything less than that will be considered a flop.

 

[TrekCyclist]

Right now, based on performance:
Almeida or Lipowitz

Potential for the coming two years: could discuss this for ages, since highly speculative

 

[Sciatic]

I guess that would depend upon what one considers to be the 3rd-best GT (English sentence construction can be a bear )

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

The Roglic disrespect here is truly outrageous.

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Following the route announcement, here's the current state of affairs regarding the favourites, the outsiders and the total dark horses

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[Zoetemelk-fan]

Ok reckon I left a draft without posting.
Bala or Gimondi
(but before the "right now")

They're all mere mortals.
It would be unbearable to think otherwise, i.e. to have filled the podium even before the gun.

 

[Andre]

Remco

 

[Peyroteo94]

Poll is closed.
Almeida is considered the third best GT rider but Remco is very close to him.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Almeida is considered the third best GT rider but Remco is very close to him.

Old friends.

 

[FroomeWagon]

Current odds for next years TDF:

Pogi 7/20
Vinegaard 7/2
Remco 14/1
Almedia 20/1
Ayuso 22/1
Lipowitz 25/1
Del Toro 33/1
Onley 40/1
Seixas 66/1
Roglic 100/1

Perhaps riders on a team that presumably won't be teams leaders (ie Almedia) could be skewed a bit lower than they should, but overall, I think that list is probably a pretty good representation of the "currently best" GC riders in the peloton.

If nothing else, it is the poll of all polls (not just those on the cycling news forums).

 

[red_flanders]

Pogi 7/20
Vinegaard 7/2
Remco 14/1
Almedia 20/1
Ayuso 22/1
Lipowitz 25/1
Del Toro 33/1
Onley 40/1
Seixas 66/1
Roglic 100/1

I've got quibbles with a few of the others, but the two highlighted jump out as comical, the former for how high it is, the latter for how low.

 

[Bolder]

Since we are in the silly season and this is one of the most controversial discussions here, who, do you think, is the third best GT rider right now?
Right now = if we started a GT tomorrow, who would be third behind Pogacar and Vingegaard?

Almeida. Very good in TTs and can climb nearly with the best. Won't get dropped, even if he loses a bit of time. I also don't have confidence in Remco being consistent in the mountains.

 

[FroomeWagon]

I've got quibbles with a few of the others, but the two highlighted jump out as comical, the former for how high it is, the latter for how low.

I was surprised by both as well. I suppose part of Ayuso's low odds are he will be Trek's sole leader for the Tour (Skjelmose is 150 to 1) is young and appears to be improving? whereas Almedia, Lipowitz and Del Toro most likely won't have leadership on their respective teams?

On the other hand, it appears the general public either thinks Roglic is washed, isn't motivated, is too injury prone, or is third on his teams priorities and likely will be stage hunting only. At some books, Roglic's odds are as low as 50 to 1, but the odds I posted were the best odds (as that is what someone would bet) that I could find.

Here is the link to the odds I used.
https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner

 

[red_flanders]

I was surprised by both as well. I suppose part of Ayuso's low odds are he will be Trek's sole leader for the Tour (Skjelmose is 150 to 1) is young and appears to be improving? whereas Almedia, Lipowitz and Del Toro most likely won't have leadership on their respective teams?

On the other hand, it appears the general public either thinks Roglic is washed, isn't motivated, is too injury prone, or is third on his teams priorities and likely will be stage hunting only. At some books, Roglic's odds are as low as 50 to 1, but the odds I posted were the best odds (as that is what someone would bet) that I could find.

Here is the link to the odds I used.
https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-france/winner

All good, thanks for the detail.

Almeida and Del Toro are of course not gonna win barring injury to Pogi. Lipo I think will be a co-leader with all the opportunity to win available. And he seems already better than Almeida, where I have less a feel for where Del Toro will eventually net out as a GC contender. Feel like we know what Almeida is, and he's already maximizing his potential.

I wonder if the Roglic odds reflect questions about whether he'll even ride the Tour. Which makes sense, and upon reflection I retract my initial comments.

Ayuso...I'm just not a believer. That guy's head will always get int the way of his potential.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well, the betting odds are rather consistent with the article posted on CN, the one we disused in the Rogličes thread. So either they are onto something or this is completely off. Anyway, not much else to say as such discussions are currently not encouraged.

Season 2026 should tell, on who got it right. Rogla or the world.