luckyboy said:
If the Lotto team is based around JVDB, Griepel and Vanendert plus some decent other riders then I agree they deserve a spot. A GT podium contender and a top sprinter is certainly enough.
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If the Lotto team is based around JVDB, Griepel and Vanendert plus some decent other riders then I agree they deserve a spot. A GT podium contender and a top sprinter is certainly enough.
Is there any word on what Adam Hansen is doing next year?
He came across to OPL with Greipel (apparently they are good mates) and was on a 2/3 year contract. Is he staying with Lotto, or going somewhere else, eg. Greenedge?
Just wondering, because he's a reliable, no-frills rouleur/domestique.
He came across to OPL with Greipel (apparently they are good mates) and was on a 2/3 year contract. Is he staying with Lotto, or going somewhere else, eg. Greenedge?
Just wondering, because he's a reliable, no-frills rouleur/domestique.
The Hitch said:
And Valverde has some something like in excess of 20,000km this year in training
(mind you if you were on the money Valverde was on, even with a family, I'm sure he can afford to ride all day and not worry about work, or he sold off his fine car collection) so he should be able to hit the ground running when he comes back next year. I would guess that the 2012 TDU will be his comeback race, it least it seems logical/not surprising that it would be the case.
craig1985 said:And Valverde has some something like in excess of 20,000km this year in training
Good chance it will happen, heard from a few sources that he enjoyed racing the TdU a few years ago.
I still remember the breakaway of Sagan, Valverde, Lulu, and Cadel on Wilunga Hill, that was exciting racing
craig1985 said:I still remember the breakaway of Sagan, Valverde, Lulu, and Cadel on Wilunga Hill, that was exciting racing
yep i was there that day and i tell ya i was yelling for cadel thats for sure...later on that day got a got a nod from valverde on his way home along king william street and that sealed my like for him... even though he rode against cadel in the vuelta but thats another story...
back to OP, team looking good but was hoping one or two of those riders would end up and greenedge, especially hanson...
craig1985 said:And Valverde has some something like in excess of 20,000km this year in training
That's just not the same as training in races. If he's good in his first races again, it won't be long till he receives a life time ban.
The comparison with Contador is ridiculous. He stops after riding the Tour de France, that's training you can't get by riding alone and sure as hell better as riding 20000 km on your own.
And he usually does ride a lot of crits, so it's not like he's sitting on the beach all day after the Tour. He'll probably start racing in Mallorca by the way. Although Qatar and Oman would be better. Fast races is what he needs right now after coming from a suspension.
You mean Brian Bulgac, I think? Former Rabo Conti climber who now rides for Omega Pharma-Lotto-Davo (or whatever travesty they've managed to make of the name this time)?Lexman said:
theyoungest said:
I thought it was just called Lotto-Davitamon. Err, or the other way around lol.
El Pistolero said:
True, but the key is that he will have a base behind him and it won't take too long to get back into form, by Paris - Nice at least. But yeah nothing can replace racing, there is a lot of truth in the saying that racing is the best form of training.
Anyway I think we are too far OT
If Dennis Vanendert is half as good as his brother this team looks very solid and think it will get WT if they sign Jelle Vanendert, Greipel, VDB2(don't know if they already officially signed them). Let's hope VDB2 does a good Vuelta, Lotto will need all the points they can get.
Libertine Seguros said:
A thread on OPL and 2 pages in and it somehow turns into another Cav bashing session.
There's a single good reason why Cav doesn't do any work for anybody else. It's got nothing to do with whether Cav wants to work or not. It's because his DS doesn't want him to. Quite simple. Damn right too. If I had a guy who could win 20 TdF stages in 4 years, I'd only EVER have him ride into the wind for 200m at the end of a race.
With respect to Griepel and a 2010 version of Petacchi (who I'm sure you realise didn't win a stage in that Giro), they don't come with that guarantee, so they have to earn their keep elsewhere.
Anyway, to answer the point you responded to, I think Cav and Griepel have grown up and realised that, now they're on different teams, they actually quite like and respect each other. I think that was evident in the Tour.
And to answer the OP, I think that OPL team looks very light on potential wins.
El Pistolero said:
Huh
Whats time trialing got to do, got to do with it?
The only thing i can see about tting in my post is the mention of LLS in the first line which was a off topic joke.
The Hitch said:Huh
Whats time trialing got to do, got to do with it?
The only thing i can see about tting in my post is the mention of LLS in the first line which was a off topic joke.
Time trial skills ---> Endurance, Gilbert's greatest weakness.
Gilbert dropped Valverde and Evans on the Saint Nicholas. Those 2 worked together to bring Gilbert back on the flat part. Then Valverde won the sprint of the 3 man group. LBL has a FLAT finish. Valverde has a better sprint at a flat finish, but I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about hills, and Valverde definitely got dropped on Saint Nicholas.
Sieberg has repeated what the managers of Gilbert and VdB have indicated, that the contracts were tied to the partnership of OP and Lotto and therefore the riders are now free to sign anywhere. So Gilbert could end up at Lotto as well if there is no buyout to pay.
El Pistolero said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/belgian-time-trial-championships-2011/results trololololol
l.Harm said:
I made that post already knowing he won it. Still doesn't make him a great TT specialist. Endurance is still his biggest flaw as a classics specialist, at least for solo attacks.
I think that the team would be solid but might not have the necessary support for JVDB, especially if you take out the sprinters to focus on GC, it would look like a weak GT team. They may not also even get WT status.
greenedge said:
Denis and Jelle Vanendert will be all the support he needs for the mountains. Not a lot of teams have a mountain domestique as good as Jelle. From what I've read, Denis is a good climber as well
Are you counting on a neo-pro to be a solid domestique in the TdF mountains? Seriously?Michielveedeebee said:
hrotha said:
I wouldn't count on it, but they say he's more talented than his bro. Anyway, with Jelle alone VDB2 has better support than most teams. Let's not forget he worked hard this year's Tour for Phil even before the real mountains started, so it was only normal that he cracked at the Alps. Andre is also a beast on the flat and even hilly stages, so he should come in handy as well in any stage that he can't win.
hrotha said:
Where did I mention the TdF? I said mountains. And yes I believe he can be a solid domestique, not necessarily in the TdF
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