Why I hate the Tour Down Under

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First of all, I love the Tour Down Under. I live in Victor Harbor and have stood on the side of the road each year and have followed since the race started many years ago. But I have no F’ing idea what is going on and the commentators and Tour organisers do nothing to make the sport accessible and understandable by people who have not previously raced. I also watch the French and Italian Tours. I want to love this sport. For example, nothing is explained about team strategies and how they work. I tried to work out who is wearing the ochre jersey so that I can find them on the screen. The Tour website shows there are 75 riders with numbers 1-75 but the riders on screen have numbers in the 100’s. How the F is anyone able to follow who the F they are watching???? The commentators don’t take a moment to explain anything about the sport and expect the only people that watch are former riders who will know these things. I am becoming convinced that it is an elitist sport that doesn’t actually want people without a cycling background to watch. In every other sport the commentators take the time to explain everything- take cricket for example. They do an amazing job. Cycling commentators don’t explain anything yet they have days and days of commentary time that they could. They clearly have no idea about how to promote the sport.
 
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Potomac, I take it from your lack of comment that you also don’t understand the sport?

I just mean to give honest feedback to a sport that I have been trying to follow. If you know people who give tv commentary, please ask them to explain, to make the sport accessible.
 
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It doesn’t make sense to me (the rider numbers - which was my original point), which is why I posted. It is so hard for an outsider to understand the sport, or go further, because the sport isn’t explained. I know it is easy to roll eyes and dismiss, but the future of your sport relies on people understanding it. So far, from this forum, no one has tried to help.
 
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One team has the 1-7 (that's the team of last year's winner, so Narvaez the defending champion had number 1)
The next has 11-17
Then 21-27
And so forth, until you reach the final team which has 191-197

And your bit about 75 riders with number 1-75 doesn't make sense, because it literally can't have been what what was written on the website. The only explanation I can come up with is that you were actually looking at the results for stage 2, but before all the riders had finished.

Here's the startlist provided by the organisation:

 
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It doesn’t make sense to me (the rider numbers - which was my original point), which is why I posted. It is so hard for an outsider to understand the sport, or go further, because the sport isn’t explained. I know it is easy to roll eyes and dismiss, but the future of your sport relies on people understanding it. So far, from this forum, no one has tried to help.
You haven't asked any questions. If you want to know which rider is with which nunber, go to this site: https://www.procyclingstats.com/

Every major race has a listing of riders who will ride, and details about the race or stages.

I'm trusting you can navigate a website. It will give you tons of information.

If you want to begin understanding the sport, study the dynamics of wind resistance, how weight affects vertical gain, and how genetics can create a human capable of stomping the bottom out of the planet.
 
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Thanks RedheadDane and ChewbaccaDefense for providing some helpful information. I took a screenshot of the tour down under website that shows the riders. Weirdly, sometimes it loads up to 75 rider and other times it loads more. So my confusion could be somewhat related to the website issues. I will review the website you suggested and try to learn more. I don’t know if any of you have contacts with the commentary team? But I would like to provide feedback to the wider sport that there are people that want to engage and understand but the commentary doesn’t explain the basic tactics of the sport. I don’t mean to offend, it’s just how the sport is currently presented.
 
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Thanks RedheadDane and ChewbaccaDefense for providing some helpful information. I took a screenshot of the tour down under website that shows the riders. Weirdly, sometimes it loads up to 75 rider and other times it loads more. So my confusion could be somewhat related to the website issues. I will review the website you suggested and try to learn more. I don’t know if any of you have contacts with the commentary team? But I would like to provide feedback to the wider sport that there are people that want to engage and understand but the commentary doesn’t explain the basic tactics of the sport. I don’t mean to offend, it’s just how the sport is currently presented.
I'm guessing it's the commentators for Australian TV you are talking about. All I can say really is that commentators come in all levels of quality. The good ones knows to be clear enough so that also new viewers can follow what is going on but that is unfortunately not the instinct that all commentators have. I'm not really sure there are any solutions since we are often stuck with the commentators for whatever service provides the coverage. I'm not sure what options you have in Australia but if it's like most places you have what you have. Other people from Australia might know more if this is a regular thing or if you have various commentators on your broadcasts and perhaps others are better at it.
 
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Potomac, I take it from your lack of comment that you also don’t understand the sport?

I just mean to give honest feedback to a sport that I have been trying to follow. If you know people who give tv commentary, please ask them to explain, to make the sport accessible.
Many people ( too many) share your frustration in trying to understand the sport. That as a baseline you have to understand that while basic principles of bike racing remain the same, professional racing, especially stage racing requires some homework from a fan or would be fan, someone who wants to enjoy it.
TV coverage and commentary are always doomed, passionate fans get furious when things like drafting are explained multiple times per broadcast or they mention how many calories are consumed by riders. After you have listened to that 10,000 times you really want to commit a hate crime on your TV.
The basics are.. Over the multiple days of racing the rider with the lowest overall accumulated time wins the overall, general classification. It gets confusing because of officiating and rules that make a guy that never comes in first, second or third , still wins overall because of having best average time over the multiple days of racing. And in 1_day events, exactly the opposite, it's all or nothing, but in professional racing top 20 is respectable and top 10 is excellent.. Podium,( top 3) is outstanding.
TDU has tried many things ( successfully) to make the race easier for you to watch and enjoy. Repeated race routes and circuits, big laps make it easier to see some action, also radio and TV coverage, Internet dashboard updates allow you to see who is leading and ultimately who wins without actually being at the finish line. Many cycling purists get pissed off it you say it, but it's much easier to learn about professional racing from first watching videos or TV coverage. Australia has plentiful amateur racing much of it in the form called crits- criteriums..usually shorter laps and it's easier to see who wins and how they did it.
Pro racing is often very very frustrating for people, they walk for long distances, stand around for hours, a big clump of bicycles whooshing by and that was it, those few seconds was the extent of the action you were going to see. And hard to pick out a favorite as they race past at @50k per hour.
Best thing to do as a new fan is do the 3 spots, 1 day see a start, another day see a finish and another day do homework to position yourself on some obstacle like a nasty uphill section @ half or 3\4 into a race where racers will be suffering with the gradient and in the case often in Australia ugly surprising temperatures because most bike racers associate January with cold winter temps, so Australia turns everything upside down literally, few riders are truly ready for hot weather.
The TV commentary people can't really make anyone happy, they don't explain racing basics for new fans, talk about endless stupid things including themselves or try to please everyone which ends up pleasing almost nobody. Most successful color people just call the race like everyone knows what is going on and do research as to what riders currently have good form and comment about riders who are historically good and are just re confirming their talent. Races are happening to fast and coverage is so abbreviated that trying to explain race principles is too difficult while still keeping up to the minute on action.

If it's any comfort besides having the worst bread in the world, America also has absolutely the worst bicycle racing commentators..US has really improved on coffee and beer.
 
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My suggestion is to watch the Discovery+ English language version.
Jez Cox never stops to breath, he must surely cover every single tactic over and over again.
I mute him and just have the ambient sound.
 
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I guess it wouldn't be too unreasonable to hate that it gives the same point of UCI points as Paris-Nice, Tour Auvergne - Rhône Alpes etc...
Somehow it gives more points than Catalunya or Basque country. I would assume it's because they want to entice teams to send good riders to score points
 
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Why I hate TDU - looking out my window it's wet and miserable, at TDU it's always sunny.
Our street/town are full of potholes, Australian roads have superb surface.
Where I live is a dump, Adelaide appears to be a rich person's haven.
Adelaide is so clean/litter free and not a stray dog in sight.
 
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Somehow it gives more points than Catalunya or Basque country. I would assume it's because they want to entice teams to send good riders to score points

Maybe, but the problem is that it doesn't work meaning it's way too many easy points. In a time where UCI points have become so important it's obviously utterly stupid to give out so many points for that race.
 
Who was it that used to have a sig line that was something like "Cycling is like church: many attend but few understand"?

The huge roadside group that one sees in some events are based far more on spectacle than close following of the sport, and its probably a sport in which casual following based on headlines far outnumbers serious investors of time (Geraint Thomas was voted BBC SPotY, but I suspect a huge proportion of those that voted for him couldn't have named half his teammates in the TdF that year)

But to the OP: I wouldn't dream of watching a game of Australian football without reading up on some basics of the sport first (I am aware it has some similarities to gaelic football, a sport I do know, but beyond that have no exposure to it), and would not expect the commentators to be catering to those with no previous knowledge of the sport. To compare it to cricket (which I was forced to endure at school), how often would you expect commentators to remind the audience that there are 6 bowls in an over, or of the difference between spin and pace, or issue reminders that it is only 6 runs if it doesn't touch the ground first?

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Tour Down Under is way too unimportant to require hatred.
I would've concurred if it weren't for the fact that:

I guess it wouldn't be too unreasonable to hate that it gives the same point of UCI points as Paris-Nice, Tour Auvergne - Rhône Alpes etc...
Exactly.
Somehow it gives more points than Catalunya or Basque country. I would assume it's because they want to entice teams to send good riders to score points

I understand that:
1) money is important (i.e. UAE Tour etc.)
2) they don't want to have 90% of the races in Belgium, France, Italy; and the other 10% between Spain and the rest of Europe.

But TDU is pretty lame: definitely, as of today, not worth being a Cat.4 WT event (500 points for the winner).
It almost makes Tour de Pologne look good.

At least UAE tour is "only" a cat. 6 WT race (300 points for the winner).
 
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I would've concurred if it weren't for the fact that:


Exactly.


I understand that:
1) money is important (i.e. UAE Tour etc.)
2) they don't want to have 90% of the races in Belgium, France, Italy; and the other 10% between Spain and the rest of Europe.

But TDU is pretty lame: definitely, as of today, not worth being a Cat.4 WT event (500 points for the winner).
It almost makes Tour de Pologne look good.

At least UAE tour is "only" a cat. 6 WT race (300 points for the winner).
It's only the points that give it relevance, and I just don't really care about the points.

If you look at the fields in the race, it's quite clear that the teams don't find it important.
 

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