“It’s like someone who cheats but doesn’t think it’s cheating if they don’t get caught,” the judge said in court.
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/07/06/judge-rules-lohan-90-days-in-jail/
Ah, so Ms. Lohan would fit right in the pro peloton.
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“It’s like someone who cheats but doesn’t think it’s cheating if they don’t get caught,” the judge said in court.
Ninety5rpm said:http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/07/06/judge-rules-lohan-90-days-in-jail/
Ah, so Ms. Lohan would fit right in the pro peloton.
Cerberus said:Michael Rasmussen actually said fairly explicitly that he felt he was thrown our of the Tour unfairly because he had doped within the rules. Not his exact words but he came pretty close.
Animal said:Loads of them say that if you read between the lines.
Ullrich's "I never cheated anyone" is a classic.
Pevanage said:"I want to make it clear that at the time, I never had the feeling that I was doing anything wrong. I knew a lot of Fuentes clients, including some good riders who rode the Tour in 2006. Everyone knew. It was a normal thing to do."
Ninety5rpm said:You didn't feel like you were doing anything wrong, though you made sure you only contacted Fuentes using a prepaid anonymous phone.
THISISIT said:There's a difference between taking sensible precautions because you know what you're doing is against the rules or illegal and feeling what you're doing is wrong.
Benotti69 said:no there's not.
THISISIT said:Yes there is. Think about it. People break the law all the time and don't consider what they are doing morally or ethically wrong (e.g. speeding, jaywalking, marijuana use, etc.)
It is pretty clear almost no one involved in cycling at the time Pevenage is speaking about considered doping to be wrong.
buckwheat said:The techniques immemorial, ie. pipe up the a$s, detergent on fingers,aren't evidence of a guilty mind?
THISISIT said:Yes there is. Think about it. People break the law all the time and don't consider what they are doing morally or ethically wrong (e.g. speeding, jaywalking, marijuana use, etc.)
It is pretty clear almost no one involved in cycling at the time Pevenage is speaking about considered doping to be wrong.
THISISIT said:Yes there is. Think about it. People break the law all the time and don't consider what they are doing morally or ethically wrong (e.g. speeding, jaywalking, marijuana use, etc.)
It is pretty clear almost no one involved in cycling at the time Pevenage is speaking about considered doping to be wrong.
auscyclefan94 said:What are you on?![]()
Nope . . .Benotti69 said:if they did not consider doping to be so wrong why go to such lengths to hide it...i very rarely see people walking down the street smoking marijuana if there is an officer of the law around....if there is a police car sitting at a red light why not break it or overtake it when it is doing the speed limit? Why? because you know it is wrong.
You're conflating knowing others think it's wrong (and so you'll be in trouble if you get caught) with knowing it's wrong.Benotti69 said:if they did not consider doping to be so wrong why go to such lengths to hide it...i very rarely see people walking down the street smoking marijuana if there is an officer of the law around....if there is a police car sitting at a red light why not break it or overtake it when it is doing the speed limit? Why? because you know it is wrong.
why do they do it is a different question? Because they think that like the others who have not been caught they will not be caught.![]()
This thread is not about her, it's about comparing what the judge said about her behavior to the behavior of pro cyclists (and, now, pot smokers).sars1981 said:God I have to hear about Linsday Lohan's moronic existence every time I turn on the television and now I have to hear about her here too?![]()