Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[BroDeal]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/...ins-olympic-time-trial?cat=sport&type=article

"If I'm unbeaten in long time trials this year, that's because we've put a lot of thought into it. We worked a lot on cadence this winter."

 

[D-Queued]

Ding-ding. Winner! We have a winner!

Dave.

 

[Montanus]

So, is he now capable of challenging a Tony Martin in last years form at the worlds? I highly doubt that.

 

[Bobby700c]

Haha, I have to say Wiggins should really keep his mouth shut. I never like to take great perfomances as damning, but once riders start talking like this (and he's turning into a serial offender) it just makes me wonder. Of course, most people who haven't really followed cycling much will lap this rubbish up.
It's one of the reasons why I like Contador so much - he just gets on with it, without the BS.

 

[the big ring]

It's one of the reasons why I like Contador so much - he can't speak English so never gets a chance to say what he really thinks.

FTFY.

Speaking as someone holidaying in a non-native language country it definitely helps you appear to be nicer than you really are.

 

[will10]

It was a matter of time.

 

[Bobby700c]

FTFY.

Speaking as someone holidaying in a non-native language country it definitely helps you appear to be nicer than you really are.

I don't know, or care, how 'nice' he is. I remember reading about a post-race interview where someone was grilling him about his power to weight and V02 max, and he just answered "next question". Much rather that than coming out with a list of reasons why he's 'clean'. To be fair I haven't read many translations of his Spanish interviews, although I find it hard to imagine the Spanish press grilling him about doping (as with any journos interviewing their national hero).

 

[Robert21]

I saw this earlier from non other than Ferrari and thought that he might just be 'taking the mickey' or even giving a knowing nod of the head, especially given all the controversy that has already raged about Armstrong adopting a high cadence when climbing, despite the higher demand for oxygen that doing so entails.

The Sky riders are pedaling uphill with very high cadences of pedaling (often over 100 RPM), which seem quite excessive in relation to the power outputs, around 420-440W: either these athletes are riding below their limit, or the asymmetrical chainrings used by most of them require higher cadences in order to get the best out of them.

...Curiously Wiggo uses higher pedaling cadences (110 RPM) on the uphill sections than on the flats (100 RPM) where he utilized longer gears: perhaps because of longer cranks?

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=131

 

[thehog]

It was a matter of time.

He's just playing with us!

 

[MacRoadie]

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/...ins-olympic-time-trial?cat=sport&type=article

"If I'm unbeaten in long time trials this year, that's because we've put a lot of thought into it. We worked a lot on cadence this winter."

So, is Tim Kerrison (or is it Shane Sutton?) destined to be the next Chris Carmichael?

When can we expect "Kerrison Training Systems" to hit the internet?

1. Lose weight

2. Race fewer days prior to the Tour.

3. Higher cadence.

4. Warm downs

5. Importance of reccovery

6. Improved planning.

 

[Cloxxki]

Let someone please remind him of the awkward association he reminds of us with that notion?

that said, I got my cadance at LT from 101 tot 113 in one summer. Not fun to do the work, but yeah, it became natural on me. What helped me is my absurdly long inseam, not a lot of knee angle required to turn 175's and 180's.

 

[131313]

So, is Tim Kerrison (or is it Shane Sutton?) destined to be the next Chris Carmichael?

When can we expect "Kerrison Training Systems" to hit the internet?



3. Higher cadence.

actually, they're claiming lower cadence. And improved rolling resistance from pedaling slower. Or something.

"Tim studied it over the winter and decided maybe it was the cadence which was the problem. They worked out Tony's rpm compared to mine and something to do with rolling resistance and with the gears."

So, he's doing things the opposite of Armstrong, which obviously this means he's clean. Or something.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

So, is Tim Kerrison (or is it Shane Sutton?) destined to be the next Chris Carmichael?

When can we expect "Kerrison Training Systems" to hit the internet?

1. Lose weight

2. Race fewer days prior to the Tour.

3. Higher cadence.

4. Warm downs

5. Importance of reccovery

6. Improved planning.

The Kerrison program also includes winning all the early-season tours. That's where Charmicheal lost it, he forgot about the warm-downs.

 

[BroDeal]

actually, they're claiming lower cadence. And improved rolling resistance from pedaling slower. Or something.

"Tim studied it over the winter and decided maybe it was the cadence which was the problem. They worked out Tony's rpm compared to mine and something to do with rolling resistance and with the gears."

So, he's doing things the opposite of Armstrong, which obviously this means he's clean. Or something.

It seems to me that a lower cadence would increase rear tire deformation, resulting in higher rolling resistance. This becomes very apparent when climbing out of the saddle with a low cadence.

 

[131313]

It seems to me that a lower cadence would increase rear tire deformation, resulting in higher rolling resistance. This becomes very apparent when climbing out of the saddle with a low cadence.

I agree, at least in theory. In reality I'm going to bet the difference between 95 rpm and 110 rpm on flat roads would be almost immeasurable. Still, it gives some context to that unbelievably ridiculous statement.

 

[MacRoadie]

..."something to do with rolling resistance and with the gears."

Highly insightful...

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Tim studied it over the winter

Tim must be a cycling genius. No one ever discovered this before. Or has Tim been spinning in the pool?

What a load of BS.

Bring on the Chinese swimming coach at Argos and they will rock the pro peloton.

 

[Darryl Webster]

A ickle amateur theory re cadence: Cycling being , essentially an aerobic sport rather than a power sport ...higher volumes of oxygen available (EPO) might be best utilised via higher cadence? .
I've always likened the "engine" of an endurance cyclist to be like that of a small ,high revving, car engine, the power coming not from grunt but by fine tuning the oxygen supply and upping the revs.
Might be hogwash mind cus its not somat I've done the science on.

Anyone here better on the theory feel free to put me right,

 

[sartoris]

haha, i have to say wiggins should really keep his mouth shut. I never like to take great perfomances as damning, but once riders start talking like this (and he's turning into a serial offender) it just makes me wonder. Of course, most people who haven't really followed cycling much will lap this rubbish up.
It's one of the reasons why i like contador so much - he just gets on with it, without the bs.

amen ...... Amen

 

[ferryman]

A ickle amateur theory re cadence: Cycling being , essentially an aerobic sport rather than a power sport ...higher volumes of oxygen available (EPO) might be best utilised via higher cadence? .
I've always likened the "engine" of an endurance cyclist to be like that of a small ,high revving, car engine, the power coming not from grunt but by fine tuning the oxygen supply and upping the revs.
Might be hogwash mind cus its not somat I've done the science on.

Anyone here better on the theory feel free to put me right,

Hi Darryl. Great to see you still posting. I don't think an ex-pro like yourself can express an ickle amateur theory. I've no doubt you would have (as we all have) tried to up our RPM to see if it worked. It's not much fun if I remember correctly But your point, as simple as it is, makes sense to me But this is the clinic and there are some knowledgeable guys on here who will no doubt point out why that is not the case. But that is OK.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

It seems to me that a lower cadence would increase rear tire deformation, resulting in higher rolling resistance. This becomes very apparent when climbing out of the saddle with a low cadence.

"tire deformation" = marginal gains?

To that end, what 13 had mentioned: if you're in the same gear (let's pick 100" for an example), and upping your RPMs, that means every minute you're travelling that much further based on RPMs alone, so if you used to do 90RPM, and now do 100RPM, you're going 1000 inches further every minute. That means faster than the lower RPMs on the same gear.

I realize we're dealing with *** math, but sometimes you gotta slow it down for lurkers.

 

[The Hitch]

In an interview today he was talking about sacrifices needed for the TDF and said that because of his family " i wont be able to do it 6 times like Lance did".

So while he can never resist taking another pot shot at Contador for 2 atoms of clen, Lance is still a hero.

 

[acoggan]

Or something.

Two theories:

1) reduced cadence = fewer steering movements = less tire scrub = reduced Crr; and/or

2) Kerrison playing mind games w/ his own rider (something GB is known to do).

 

[mastersracer]

Two theories:

1) reduced cadence = fewer steering movements = less tire scrub = reduced Crr; and/or

2) Kerrison playing mind games w/ his own rider (something GB is known to do).

since Wiggins mentioned 'the gears' in the same sentence, one possibility is that he meant (or Kerrison did) something about drivetrain efficiency and cadence (maybe more force = higher chain tension = improved drivetrain efficiency?)


"something to do with rolling resistance and with the gears."

 

[blackcat]

Ding-ding. Winner! We have a winner!

Dave.

does not have the "cortico neck"