Will Armstrong save cycling?

[DirtyWorks]

Lance will resurrect himself by becoming chief of WADA.

No. IOC president. Way more power and corruption sufficient to satisfy him. WADA is a powerless testing organization.

 

[sars1981]

Lance will resurrect himself by becoming chief of WADA.

LOL. You know that would not surprise me.

 

[Deagol]

.....it is reasonable to assume the 2012 Sky myth is another case of Pat and Hein picking winners through a combination of doping and hiding doping positives. ....

You ruined my day, I was sure that "Sir" Wiggins was going to save cycling.

Going off on a tangent here: how bad would it be for the British Crown if a similar thing as the USPS conspiracy were uncovered in relation to SKY?

I mean they knighted this guy.... Seems that may have been a bit risky to me. It could turn into a PR distaster.

 

[rickshaw]

hmmmmmmmm

Ya, that's why I bolded that word. He would lose every penny, even Livestrong. He would be finished. It's what a lot of people want, and he's not going to give it to them.

I always assumed LA has had a Swiss bank account from the gitgo. Don't you think at least ONE of his high priced lawyers, all honorable men I'm sure, is adept at money laundering, off-shore banks, etc etc? He'll always have money. He wants R E S P C T back by making a tear jerked confession. We will see what we will see,

 

[trompe le monde]

I always assumed LA has had a Swiss bank account from the gitgo. Don't you think at least ONE of his high priced lawyers, all honorable men I'm sure, is adept at money laundering, off-shore banks, etc etc? He'll always have money. He wants R E S P C T back by making a tear jerked confession. We will see what we will see,

I don't know the dishonest intentions behind his confession, but there must be something to this, that he is trying to get some sliver of respect back.

But how on earth can he? It seems that he never respected anyone but himself, so how can he possibly think he is entitled to even an ampule of respect now? Who on earth can possibly empathize with someone who acted like a self-serving a55h0le who wouldn't think twice about ruining other people's lives, as long as he came out on top? Armstrong's transgressions are not of the variety of omission or ignorance or even being stuck on the horn of a moral dilemma, grey area decisions most people can empathize with, but are sins of commission, acts willingly driven by an insatiable sociopathic urge to remake things in his own image. Who as a bystander can even respect that?

I don't know. If the thrust of the Oprah interview is to find some way to get back to competing triathlons as a formerly successful has-been and if a door does open, then a real question should be: given his now confirmed sordid past, who on earth would want to compete against him in the first place? I sense there would be, or at least should be, large scale boycotts of competitors if he is ever allowed to compete in anything again. Because if Lance thinks he would be welcome with open arms back into the world of competition, I honestly wonder how many layers of delusion he lives with on a daily basis.

 

[doperhopper]

I don't know the dishonest intentions behind his confession, but there must be something to this, that he is trying to get some sliver of respect back.

well, maybe he's just desperately trying to avoid jailtime, you know, it's hard to train for ironman there

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/u-s...s-dollar-5-million-offer-in-whisteblower-case

 

[martinvickers]

You ruined my day, I was sure that "Sir" Wiggins was going to save cycling.

Going off on a tangent here: how bad would it be for the British Crown if a similar thing as the USPS conspiracy were uncovered in relation to SKY?

I mean they knighted this guy.... Seems that may have been a bit risky to me. It could turn into a PR distaster.

The crown has just survived knighting britains biggest paedo unscathed - i'm pretty sure they could survive Wiggo.

 

[Robert21]

Well, he sure has taken his time, but it looks as though Armstrong is about to do the honourable thing at last.

 

[D-Queued]

Well, he sure has taken his time, but it looks as though Armstrong is about to do the honourable thing at last.

It is an oxymoron to include Armstrong and honourable in the same sentence.

This is all about Lance's personal gain, and he will take anyone down if it moves him forward.

Thus, while there is no surprise to this, the motivation to reveal it at this time is questionable.

The real question is why now?

Dave.

 

[blackcat]

It is an oxymoron to include Armstrong and honourable in the same sentence.

This is all about Lance's personal gain, and he will take anyone down if it moves him forward.

Thus, while there is no surprise to this, the motivation to reveal it at this time is questionable.

The real question is why now?

Dave.

how about prefix dis?

the dishonourable mr lance armstrong
lance armstrong is the inverse of honourable
mr lance armstrong offers an honourable explication of biblical aphorism pearls before swine

 

[biokemguy]

All part of the show

The real question is why now?

Dave.

Pretty convenient that it's the offseason. Same as last year with the RD.

The dope stories keep me interested in cycling while there's no racing going on, and I don't think I'm alone.

 

[Samson777]

Pretty convenient that it's the offseason. Same as last year with the RD.

The dope stories keep me interested in cycling while there's no racing going on, and I don't think I'm alone.

That's true, the dope stories keep the focus on the sport.. But why should wonderboy care about that?

 

[biokemguy]

I don't think he cares about the focus during the offseason,
he just knows how to play the game well.

He's still playing the press like a fiddle and determines the
guidelines for all of his interviews.

I wish the press would ignore him unless he agrees to
their terms for interviews and not the other way around.

 

[Benotti69]

That's true, the dope stories keep the focus on the sport.. But why should wonderboy care about that?

No mention of liestrong from Armstrong in a long time! Is he hoping no one will question the legitimacy of his slush fund posing as a charity?

 

[blackcat]

No mention of liestrong from Armstrong in a long time! Is he hoping no one will question the legitimacy of his slush fund posing as a charity?

lets not forget the Yellow Rose retirement fund.

 

[D-Queued]

how about prefix dis?

the dishonourable mr lance armstrong
lance armstrong is the inverse of honourable
mr lance armstrong offers an honourable explication of biblical aphorism pearls before swine

Pretty convenient that it's the offseason. Same as last year with the RD.

The dope stories keep me interested in cycling while there's no racing going on, and I don't think I'm alone.

Point very well taken.

Of all people, though, I have grown tired of the story and the slow progress on his sins catching up with him. Reminds me that it could be a long, cold winter. Thus, any interest at this point is analogous to hoping for an allegorical trip to warmer climates.

Dave.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Or the reverse question can also be posed as in "Will cycling save Armstrong"

 

[Big Doopie]

The real question is why now?

exactly.

This is what I think. The thing that is killing him most is having no competitive outlet. As Lemond (man, has that guy been dead-on about this whole thing) put it, Armstrong needs to "dominate" people. That is why being a pretty good one-day racer on epo was not enough. He has to dominate. And now on top of it all everyone is questioning if he even had any natural ability to start with. If he could become ironman world champion, he could prove that he always had the talent. The hysterical thing is he was using Ferrari to prepare him for triathlons. The guy cannot compete without high octane. On low octane he was 124th at the 2005 Paris-Nice prologue losing tons of time to clean French riders. He knows this deep down. He simply cannot come to terms with the fact that had he not cheated he would be a complete nobody. And - worse still - the world knows it.

 

[D-Queued]

Every time I see this thread title, I have to admit to trying to hold back a little laugh.

Save cycling?

The more interesting question, with all of his narcisitic and sociopathic intensity, is whether he could possibly save himself.

The odds are not good.

Dave.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Every time I see this thread title, I have to admit to trying to hold back a little laugh.

Save cycling?

What is there to be saved? Isnt cycling already clean?

I would applaud Armstrong throwing everyone undr a bus though, just for the comedy factor. Not gonna happen, he needs leverage. He will pick his targets wisely.

 

[MonkeyFace]

If while at sea someone pulls a boat's drain plug and then after taking a dangerous amount of water puts the plug back in, would you say that person saved the boat? I doubt it.

 

[rainman]

In cycling the top few have always made the big bucks, the superdoms good money and the rest are paid enough to survive. Reflects the world at large. The sponsors want payback, the DS has to deliver. The riders must satisfy team requirements, the pressure is incredible. PED's? of course, its not even up for debate and never has been. The only crime is getting caught. Clean riders, possibly with a few exceptions, have always been ruthlessly shelled out. Armstrong will never be able to change all that even if he remotely wanted to.
What a hypocrite if he starts promoting clean racing after he made his stack being doped to the gills.

 

[DirtyWorks]

In cycling the top few have always made the big bucks, the superdoms good money and the rest are paid enough to survive.

This is by UCI design. It doesn't have to be like it is now. But, they are trying to concentrate the power and money between the UCI and ASO and maybe RCS.
It's working great too. Lots of money from the Olympics, lots of money from WT events suddenly coming and going off the calendar. In this way, Hein did a very good job.

What a hypocrite if he starts promoting clean racing after he made his stack being doped to the gills.

Don't worry, he won't ever be clean and can't possibly sell it. We're lucky he's a terrible actor.

 

[MonkeyFace]

Don't worry, he won't ever be clean and can't possibly sell it. We're lucky he's a terrible actor.

Cut the guy a break. He has gotten marginally better since Dodgeball.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

If while at sea someone pulls a boat's drain plug and then after taking a dangerous amount of water puts the plug back in, would you say that person saved the boat? I doubt it.

I was thinking along the lines of, "Will the Titanic save transoceanic shipping?"