Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[veganrob]

I voted "NO". I'm hearing he's turning vegetarian

Well if he is going veggie, that is great. however, veggies alone will not be the reason he destroys the Vuelta and any other GT he is in. A little juice will also be on the menu I'm afraid.

 

[Ripper]

He's going to be watched like a hawk. I think he will return clean and that is how I tend to approach these matters (assume clean until something suggest otherwise). We have not seen 2007 bertie again, which suggests he was already toning it down before 2010.

Some folks come back and are still strong, but the peloton is different now and they can still perform. Others, not so much (di Luca anyone?)

 

[Porphyry]

No.

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[Parrulo]

ya speaking out against doping is a clear sign one isn't doing it. . . .

anyway could this get back on track?

 

[Fetisoff]

Well if he is going veggie, that is great. however, veggies alone will not be the reason he destroys the Vuelta and any other GT he is in. A little juice will also be on the menu I'm afraid.

Should he consult Durianrider which one's better - orange or pineaple juice then?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Well if he is going veggie, that is great. however, veggies alone will not be the reason he destroys the Vuelta and any other GT he is in. A little juice will also be on the menu I'm afraid.

That is correct veganrob. It would be great if he was going veggie. Maybe he is going to try and go 40 bananas a day? If he does then look out.

 

[Red Rick]

There are no alligations against Kenny van Hummel, and i fully expect him to win the Tour de France this year.

Ofcourse his improvement is not only due to dope. I'd still say it's at least 50% hard work. It's not like I would ride up Alpe d'huez within an hour if I juice myself up

 

[LaFlorecita]

He's going to be watched like a hawk. I think he will return clean and that is how I tend to approach these matters (assume clean until something suggest otherwise). We have not seen 2007 bertie again, which suggests he was already toning it down before 2010.

Some folks come back and are still strong, but the peloton is different now and they can still perform. Others, not so much (di Luca anyone?)

Of course we haven't seen 2007 Berto again. 2007 Berto we only saw in 2007.

 

[Red Rick]

Of course we haven't seen 2007 Berto again. 2007 Berto we only saw in 2007.

You don't say.............

 

[Semper Fidelis]

He's going to be watched like a hawk. I think he will return clean and that is how I tend to approach these matters (assume clean until something suggest otherwise). We have not seen 2007 bertie again, which suggests he was already toning it down before 2010.

Some folks come back and are still strong, but the peloton is different now and they can still perform. Others, not so much (di Luca anyone?)/

Di Luca the cycling mini man? Where is he these days? Working for the carnaval or circus?

 

[The Hitch]

The performance of Hesjedal in the Giro and the performances of Wiggins in P-N and Romandie shows everyone once and for all races can be won clean.

How do those performances "prove" races can be won clean, unless you can prove that those riders are 100% clean.

Also was this not exactly what was being said about Lance 13 years ago?

 

[The Hitch]

And why should we assume Wiggins doped?

.

There is a world of difference between assuming Wiggins doped and claiming that he is the embodyment of clean cycling, and that moreover, his success on his bike and cleanliness are all the proof anyone needs to know now for sure that gts can now be won dope free.

 

[The Hitch]

There is no allegation or basis against him and until there is I won't question his performance. .

No one is suggesting you have to question Brads performance.

But there are 3 options, not 2.

1 you know for certain he doped.
2 You know for certain he didn't dope.
3 You don't know.

You are arguing that the elimination of option 1 (there is no evidence that he doped) can only lead to option 2 (that therefore he 100% didn't dope)

But there is still option 3 and for most riders option 3 will be the default position. Even if you strongly suspect Wiggins doesn't dope, for all the reasons you have given, you are still, from what i understand, on option 3 in so far as you don't know for certain that he is clean.

Or we can add option 3 a - that you don't know for 100% that he is clean, but you strongly suspect he is.

Would that be an accurate portrayal of the opinion you hold on Wiggin's cleanliness?

 

[Red Rick]

Oh yeah a Contador fan spins it once again as usual and implies other rivals into possible doping because they can't take it he doped. That is the stuff that is pathetic man. Hesjedal and Evans doped in their wins. That is just bitterness from another Contador fan.

If he wins the Vuelta on his return I will say he deserved it but I won't be like you anyway and be bitter about it like you were above there with Hesjedal and Evans.

There are no alligations against Evans nor Hesjedal. You're being perfectly logic. If i have to i'll make alligations against Wiggins personally just so you can't use the freaking argument anymore

 

[Race Radio]

Will Bert juice?

Does the Pope pi$$ in the woods?

 

[The Hitch]

You don't say.............

lol. La flos posts can be quite funny like that sometimes.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Oh yeah a Contador fan spins it once again as usual and implies other rivals into possible doping because they can't take it he doped. That is the stuff that is pathetic man. Hesjedal and Evans doped in their wins. That is just bitterness from another Contador fan.

If he wins the Vuelta on his return I will say he deserved it but I won't be like you anyway and be bitter about it like you were above there with Hesjedal and Evans.

He isn't spinning anything.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

Contador is likely to be, either one of the most blood boosted riders in the peloton, or one of the worst responders to blood boosting, depending on whether his naturally high Hb is legit or not.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

You all can at least try to stay on topic, right?

Susan

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador is likely to be, either one of the most blood boosted riders in the peloton, or one of the worst responders to blood boosting, depending on whether his naturally high Hb is legit or not.

Why wouldn't it be legit?

 

[hrotha]

Why wouldn't it be legit?

Because fraudulent certificates are believed to be common. Everybody has a certificate for asthma, naturally high hematocrit, or what have you. Riccò for example had one for high hematocrit.

 

[hfer07]

The performance of Hesjedal in the Giro and the performances of Wiggins in P-N and Romandie shows everyone once and for all races can be won clean.

keep the faith

 

[patterson_hood]

There you have it folks, going from the autobus to 4th is normal. We can use whoever did that as a safe measuring stick.

To be fair, don't most riders start in the autobus and then improve? I feel that Wiggins doesn't dope, and would by no means would I be surprised if I found out he did, but surely a rider winning races straight off the bat would be more of an indication of doping?

 

[The Hitch]

An interesting sub question to this would be, if no one doped, would Contador still be the best rider in the world?

 

[patterson_hood]

An interesting sub question to this would be, if no one doped, would Contador still be the best rider in the world?

I'm not a fan of the clinics assumption that all top riders dope, or the "well you can't prove he's clean" theory, it reminds me too much of the arguments for religion.

That said, dope didn't make Berto the Cyclist he is I'm sure and I think even without it he'd still be the best GT rider. Not by such a big margin, but still the best.