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[djpbaltimore]

But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

 

[Scott SoCal]

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But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way. They'll ask "tough" questions and in the end give Trump his choice.

The only way Tillerson is not confirmed is if something is discovered that is disqualifying. The rest is wishful thinking.

 

[python]

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McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way.

because vlad will surely hack their brains, even though there isn't all that much left in those oversized skulls...

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way.

because vlad will surely hack their brains, even though there isn't all that much left in those oversized skulls...

POWER of the Stooges! So evident.!!!

 

[python]

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But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way.

because vlad will surely hack their brains, even though there isn't all that much left in those oversized skulls...

POWER of the Stooges! So evident.!!!

we should know :lol:

 

[djpbaltimore]

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But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way. They'll ask "tough" questions and in the end give Trump his choice.

The only way Tillerson is not confirmed is if something is discovered that is disqualifying. The rest is wishful thinking.

Probably true. But, seeing as how no-one has been really vetted thoroughly in the process, I imagine someone will have to withdraw due to skeletons, or other inconvenient details. I would've preferred someone like Romney, but I actually have no issue with TIllerson as SoS. There are other more troubling Trump selections that deserve more scrutiny, including Bolton.

 

[movingtarget]

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movingtarget:

... Little wonder that Obama was dilly dallying and apprehensive about being too deeply involved in another conflict. The USA either should have stayed out of it altogether or jumped in before Russia got involved, by taking the middle ground in a complex situation with so many groups with different enemies and allies didn't really have much effect at all.....

the obama admin will be history in a matter of days. as i said already, his syria approach/strategy has failed and it's hardly arguable. why it turned out the way it did and where the american mistakes were made is still to be sorted out.

international politics and diplomacy have 2 sides - one is open to the public (and is very messy by definition), and the other side is secret, covert where the cards played are kept tight. my point is that what we were told by obama/kerry wrt syria isn't a full story. not even close...there may have been either embarrassing (like dealings to certain jihadists) or downright mistaken/incorrect assessments (like WHO committed the chemical attacks). for instance, why the us stubbornly insisted on the nondisclosure of their deal with russia on aleppo ? considering such possibilities, perhaps the obama reluctance to step in with the bang should be viewed as may have known more and better that we were told ? then, perhaps he should be credited for NOT enforcing the 'red line' or for NOT expending the americann soldiers lives defending the saudi cutthroats in aleppo ??

Lack of a bully headlong rush into a war we have seen so often from the obama predecessors may have been a wise decision. and when the russians stepped in, perhaps obama was relieved but continued saber rattling b/c that's what a superpower supposed to do to mask its deliberate lack of leadership..

that all said, i am personally not convinced that obama failed in the middle east completely. his opening to iran and the firm standing to the zionist attacks on the political non proliferation process was a huge success imo.

The trouble with Iran is Trump who seems to be very pro Israel. Normally I would have said that Obama achieved something good but with Trump to follow I think there is apprehension about what will happen and I'm sure that the South China Sea situation won't continue as is. Israel never listened to any advice about building new settlements and provoking the Palestinians. Their responses to terrorist incidents were often over the top and Obama and Israel were really in a war of words over Iran. Iran has also won big in Syria. It's also inconceivable that China will be allowed to continue doing what it wants in neutral waters without provocation from the USA and I am sure the USA will expect it's allies to also exercise their rights where China wants no one to go. Many commentators seem to think that Obama did well with Iran while failing badly in Syria. He was in a very difficult situation in Syria. We will soon see whether Trump really will take a lower profile on the world stage and concentrates more on the domestic side of things like he constantly says. Obama does not believe that Trump will weaken NATO or international alliances. Trump is such a political novice that no one really knows what to expect although some of his brain dead commentary must cause concern especially in foreign affairs. Will he be as impulsive as he seems or will he actually take advice from experienced advisors and it's also arguable whether the team he has put together will be effective as some of his appointments are curious at best. He seems to believe more in business success than he does in expert analysis and political experience. The first 12 months could be interesting.

If he makes it that far. Conflicts from him and Tillerson are going to be front and center from day one(assuming tillerson gets approved, which I doubt).

don is pro Israel, pro russia, russia is pro iran, who is anti Israel. tillerson is going to try to undo sanctions against russia, with don't help, to help Exxon-Mobil..cya tillerson.

Soooooo, in the history of (U.S.) Republic only nine times have cabinet choices not been confirmed once the process starts. Only once since 1959 and never has a Secretary of State choice been bounced during the confirmation process.

Dems don't control one iota of the process and unless Tillerson has some crazy stuff that has yet to be uncovered he'll be the next SoS no matter what the fake news disseminators are saying.

I agree that he will probably be confirmed but there are gigantic conflicts of interest which should have had him automatically withdrawn from the running for the job. From what I heard Guiliani was not considered because of his Chinese business interests but I am sure there were also other issues as well. It's a strange job hire by Trump especially as he has already taken a lot of criticism re Putin and Russia, either he is thumbing his nose at his critics or he doesn't care. Do I think Tillerson will do the job any better than others ? Not really but the fact that he is well versed in Russian culture and business dealings means that Trump definitely has something in mind for Russian relations and the sanctions. Tillerson will be dealing with many countries but it seems that Trump is putting emphasis on Russia with that appointment. What will be interesting is how far Tillerson will be allowed to go as there are others that Trump has appointed especially ex military who have have much different views on Russia. The other view would be that Tillerson is simply there for his negotiating skills and international business experience and that his appointment has nothing to do with Russia. Many are yet to be convinced that is the case.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

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But, there are also the Tom Daschles of the world who withdraw from consideration before the process plays itself out. And if Tillerson fails to sway McCain and Co, there is still a chance that he will not be SoS.

McCain and Lindsay Graham won't stand in the way. They'll ask "tough" questions and in the end give Trump his choice.

The only way Tillerson is not confirmed is if something is discovered that is disqualifying. The rest is wishful thinking.

Probably true. But, seeing as how no-one has been really vetted thoroughly in the process, I imagine someone will have to withdraw due to skeletons, or other inconvenient details. I would've preferred someone like Romney, but I actually have no issue with TIllerson as SoS. There are other more troubling Trump selections that deserve more scrutiny, including Bolton.

All dems will vote against Bolten plus Rand Paul..what is it 51 to 47 with 2 Independent, voting with Dems? I don't think tillerson is a lock nor is sessions. Mattis is a walkover.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

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movingtarget:

... Little wonder that Obama was dilly dallying and apprehensive about being too deeply involved in another conflict. The USA either should have stayed out of it altogether or jumped in before Russia got involved, by taking the middle ground in a complex situation with so many groups with different enemies and allies didn't really have much effect at all.....

the obama admin will be history in a matter of days. as i said already, his syria approach/strategy has failed and it's hardly arguable. why it turned out the way it did and where the american mistakes were made is still to be sorted out.

international politics and diplomacy have 2 sides - one is open to the public (and is very messy by definition), and the other side is secret, covert where the cards played are kept tight. my point is that what we were told by obama/kerry wrt syria isn't a full story. not even close...there may have been either embarrassing (like dealings to certain jihadists) or downright mistaken/incorrect assessments (like WHO committed the chemical attacks). for instance, why the us stubbornly insisted on the nondisclosure of their deal with russia on aleppo ? considering such possibilities, perhaps the obama reluctance to step in with the bang should be viewed as may have known more and better that we were told ? then, perhaps he should be credited for NOT enforcing the 'red line' or for NOT expending the americann soldiers lives defending the saudi cutthroats in aleppo ??

Lack of a bully headlong rush into a war we have seen so often from the obama predecessors may have been a wise decision. and when the russians stepped in, perhaps obama was relieved but continued saber rattling b/c that's what a superpower supposed to do to mask its deliberate lack of leadership..

that all said, i am personally not convinced that obama failed in the middle east completely. his opening to iran and the firm standing to the zionist attacks on the political non proliferation process was a huge success imo.

The trouble with Iran is Trump who seems to be very pro Israel. Normally I would have said that Obama achieved something good but with Trump to follow I think there is apprehension about what will happen and I'm sure that the South China Sea situation won't continue as is. Israel never listened to any advice about building new settlements and provoking the Palestinians. Their responses to terrorist incidents were often over the top and Obama and Israel were really in a war of words over Iran. Iran has also won big in Syria. It's also inconceivable that China will be allowed to continue doing what it wants in neutral waters without provocation from the USA and I am sure the USA will expect it's allies to also exercise their rights where China wants no one to go. Many commentators seem to think that Obama did well with Iran while failing badly in Syria. He was in a very difficult situation in Syria. We will soon see whether Trump really will take a lower profile on the world stage and concentrates more on the domestic side of things like he constantly says. Obama does not believe that Trump will weaken NATO or international alliances. Trump is such a political novice that no one really knows what to expect although some of his brain dead commentary must cause concern especially in foreign affairs. Will he be as impulsive as he seems or will he actually take advice from experienced advisors and it's also arguable whether the team he has put together will be effective as some of his appointments are curious at best. He seems to believe more in business success than he does in expert analysis and political experience. The first 12 months could be interesting.

If he makes it that far. Conflicts from him and Tillerson are going to be front and center from day one(assuming tillerson gets approved, which I doubt).

don is pro Israel, pro russia, russia is pro iran, who is anti Israel. tillerson is going to try to undo sanctions against russia, with don't help, to help Exxon-Mobil..cya tillerson.

Soooooo, in the history of (U.S.) Republic only nine times have cabinet choices not been confirmed once the process starts. Only once since 1959 and never has a Secretary of State choice been bounced during the confirmation process.

Dems don't control one iota of the process and unless Tillerson has some crazy stuff that has yet to be uncovered he'll be the next SoS no matter what the fake news disseminators are saying.

How many times have you said this election is 'unpresidented'?? How typical is this whole clown show? When's the last time a SecState was nominated who had not only no government experience but also YUGE BUSINESS connections to a country that is under US sanctions? Has tillerson said he will resign as CEO of E-M? Does he own tons of E-M stock? Has he sold them? Can't wait for the donnie tweet storm, as he electronically stamps his little feet when guys like McCain and Graham ask tough questions. Do ya think these 2 plus a 'few' other GOP members of congress say nice things about trump over 2 fingers of bourbon?

Clown show run by the head clown..way to go yous guys.

 

[blutto]

....more on the , uhhh, Western coverage on Syria....

After having left Syria, Bartlett took part in a press conference organized by the Syrian mission to the United Nations. After giving a brief statement about what she has observed in Syria and how she is aware firsthand of the Western media’s deception in terms of coverage of the crisis, she was questioned by a Norwegian journalist, Christopher Rothenberg, who challenged her claims that the Western media was lying.


“You talk the corporate media, the Western media, the lies, and all of this. Could you explain what might be the agenda from us in the Western media and why we should lie,” Rothenberg asked. “Why the international organizations on the ground should lie? Why we shouldn’t believe all these absolutely documentable facts that we see from the ground? These hospitals being bombed. These civilians that are talking about the atrocities that they have been experiencing. How can you justify calling all of us liars?”

She begins by admitting that there are “certainly honest journalists among the very compromised establishment media.” Bartlett then addresses Rothenberg’s second question first, by asking him to name one international organization on the ground in Eastern Aleppo. Rothenberg, of course, could not answer the question so, after a long pause of silence, Bartlett proceeded to point out that there are none. She then dismantled the reliability of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (staffed by one man in Coventry on the internet) and the notorious terrorist support group known as the White Helmets.

Bartlett replied,

These organizations are relying on the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights [SOHR], which is based in Coventry, UK, which is one man. They’re relying on compromised groups like the White Helmets. Let’s talk about the White Helmets: They were founded in 2013 by a British ex-military officer, they have been funded to the tune of $100 million by the US, UK, Europe and other states.

She pointed out that the White Helmets “purport to be rescuing civilians in eastern Aleppo and Idlib…no one in eastern Aleppo has heard of them; and I say ‘no one’ bearing in mind that now 95% of these areas of eastern Aleppo are liberated.” At the same time, “The White Helmets purport to be neutral, and yet they can be found carrying guns and standing on the dead bodies of Syrian soldiers.”

She added, “their video footage actually contains children that have been ‘recycled’ in different reports; so you can find a girl named Aya who turns up in a report in say August, and she turns up in the next month in two different locations.”

Bartlett then addressed Rothenberg’s second question.


“As for…the agenda of some corporate media: it is the agenda of regime change,” she said. “How can the New York Times…[or] Democracy Now…maintain until this day that this is a civil war in Syria? How can they maintain until this day that the protests were unarmed and non-violent until say 2012? That is absolutely not true. How can they maintain that the Syrian government is attacking civilians in Aleppo, when every person that’s coming out of these areas occupied by terrorists is saying the opposite?”

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/12/journalist-eva-bartlett-destroys-mainstream-journalist-syria-aleppo.html

Cheers

 

[Jagartrott]

Are you claiming a journalist speaking in a press event organised by the 'Syrian mission to the UN' is independent?

 

[djpbaltimore]

Bartlett has less credibility IMO than just about anybody in this whole operation. I wouldn't necessarily classify her as a journalist.

http://www.snopes.com/syrian-war-victims-are-being-recycled-and-al-quds-hospital-was-never-bombed/

 

[blutto]

.....judging by the response of the , uhhh, smart people in the room seems Ms Bartlett was bang on.....thank you one and all.....we could not have gotten to where we are now without your contributions and support...its folks like you that we know we can count on to provide the brilliant analysis and keen insight that allows us to make the correct and accurate calls on complex matters and so on and so forth and stuff eh...

....so I take it that there is no evidence to the contrary....that's ok 'cause youse guys words is golden, like your track record here is so perfectly consistent and all...

...so in yours humble estimation do you think that "non"journalist is a Russian stooge, or just misguided.....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

.....but have no fear we has gots some real journalistical people providing honest insight into the situation in Aleppo....

Five people in Port Said allegedly making fake videos purporting to show the wreckage of air strikes in the Syrian city of Aleppo have been arrested, the Egyptian Interior Ministry has said.

The videographer, his assistants and the parents of two children who appear in the footage were detained after police managed to trail the would-be camera crew to a building site awaiting demolition, a statement on Monday said

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In the distinctly amateur raw videos and stills released by the Interior Ministry, an eight-year-old girl wears a white dress and bandages covered in red stains, and holds a teddy bear. A 12-year-old boy is also interviewed about what life is like under intensive Russian-backed Syrian government air strikes.

The girl’s dress, covered in red paint, was what caught the attention of a police officer driving by, the ministry said

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/aleppo-fake-footage-children-five-peopele-arrested-egyptian-police-a7486541.html

Cheers

 

[BullsFan22]

I know I am slightly late to this party, but it seems to me like everyone still lives in their respective echo-chambers. I am unsurprisingly not surprised.

 

[Jagartrott]

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....so I take it that there is no evidence to the contrary....that's ok 'cause youse guys words is golden, like your track record here is so perfectly consistent and all...

Erm, there was a link with her claims being falsified? She apparently chose not to respond to those rebuttals.

As for echo chambers - no, I am not taking sides at all, because this is not dichotomous. The world is complex, and what more and more people seem to be doing in a way to avoid all that is pick a side and then just roll with whatever you're being fed (all the while feeling morally and/or intellectually superior). If I see a story posted about someone speaking at the Syrian mission to the UN being positioned as a trustworthy source on the Syrian war - sorry, no rational and critical-thinking person should accept that.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

.....but have no fear we has gots some real journalistical people providing honest insight into the situation in Aleppo....

Five people in Port Said allegedly making fake videos purporting to show the wreckage of air strikes in the Syrian city of Aleppo have been arrested, the Egyptian Interior Ministry has said.

The videographer, his assistants and the parents of two children who appear in the footage were detained after police managed to trail the would-be camera crew to a building site awaiting demolition, a statement on Monday said

.

In the distinctly amateur raw videos and stills released by the Interior Ministry, an eight-year-old girl wears a white dress and bandages covered in red stains, and holds a teddy bear. A 12-year-old boy is also interviewed about what life is like under intensive Russian-backed Syrian government air strikes.

The girl’s dress, covered in red paint, was what caught the attention of a police officer driving by, the ministry said

.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/aleppo-fake-footage-children-five-peopele-arrested-egyptian-police-a7486541.html

Cheers

Yup, no bombing of women, children and hospitals by Al Assad and the Russians in Aleppo..it's all a fake. At least your boy donnie is happy.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: Re:

....so I take it that there is no evidence to the contrary....that's ok 'cause youse guys words is golden, like your track record here is so perfectly consistent and all...

Erm, there was a link with her claims being falsified? She apparently chose not to respond to those rebuttals.

As for echo chambers - no, I am not taking sides at all, because this is not dichotomous. The world is complex, and what more and more people seem to be doing in a way to avoid all that is pick a side and then just roll with whatever you're being fed (all the while feeling morally and/or intellectually superior). If I see a story posted about someone speaking at the Syrian mission to the UN being positioned as a trustworthy source on the Syrian war - sorry, no rational and critical-thinking person should accept that.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Jagartrott]

Excuse me? You don't know my point of view on this war - I've never elaborated on that (to be short: war is *** and should always be avoided).

It is normal that stories are being spun left and right, be it the denial of bombings or be it staging bombings that never happened. It's a decent journalist's task to distill the facts and remain critical and independent. Because we live in an age with thousands of news reports being just a click away, it is also a reader's task to remain critical. Too often, that critical stance is only upheld in one direction. Hence, posting a story by a journalist embedded with the Syrian regime as a critique of biased 'western' coverage is ... a bit ironic. What echo chamber does that place me in exactly?

 

[blutto]

These are the happiest countries in the world, according to the 2016 Happy Planet Index. The report measures how effectively countries’ residents use their resources to achieve long and happy lives. Nations are rated according to four factors - ecological footprint, inequality of incomes, life expectancy and wellbeing. Somewhat surprisingly, Western countries with high GDPs fare badly in the list. No European countries appear in the top ten, the UK comes in at 34th place, and America languishes at number 108. Instead the highest ratings go to countries in Asia-Pacific and the Americas, which achieve high life expectancy and wellbeing with low ecological footprints. High levels of inequality of incomes within a country drag ratings down considerably, as the research found that this has a strongly adverse affect on happiness

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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/happiest-countries-earth-085952697/photo-1-costa-rica-1476198415740.html

This year, Costa Rica has topped the Happy Planet Index rankings for the third time. Costa Ricans have higher wellbeing than the residents of many rich nations, including the USA and the UK, and live longer than people in the USA. This is achieved with a per capita Ecological Footprint that’s just one third of the size of the USA’s.
Costa Rica is a world leader when it comes to environmental protection. 99% of electricity used in Costa Rica comes from renewable sources13 and the government is far ahead of many wealthier nations, having committed the country to becoming carbon neutral by 2021.14
Since abolishing its army in 1949, the country has reallocated its defence budget to funding education, health and pensions.15 The culture of forming solid social networks of friends, families and neighbourhoods16 is another likely factor in Costa Rican’s high wellbeing.
Despite this, Costa Rica also faces many problems. An unprogressive tax system means that income inequality is particularly high.17 While Costa Rica’s commitment to environmental sustainability is impressive,
it still has some way to go before it is completely sustainable.

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....hmmm....I'm guessing this may leave a mark....

Analysis // Security Council Punch Knocks Netanyahu Down From Hubris to Humiliation

The prime minister recruited Trump against Obama but the gambit blew up in his face, just as it did in the Iran deal

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.761042

....and of course Nut-and-yahoo is acting like the responsible adult he always has been in the face of this "crisis"

Netanyahu Cancels Ukrainian PM's Visit to Israel Over Security Council Vote

The decision was made in light of Ukraine's vote in favor of a resolution condemning Israeli settlements, senior official says

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http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.761122

Israel ’s government immediately reacted stating that it will impose sanctions on the two states that pushed for the resolution, New Zealand and Senegal , and ordered their ambassadors for consultation. However, the Israeli government couldn’t take a similar action against the two other states that called for a vote on the resolution – Venezuela and Malaysia , since it doesn’t have diplomatic ties with them

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/26/too-little-too-late-for-u-s-decision-on-settlements/


Cheers

 

[blutto]

....huh ?.....this right there is what youse call thinking out of the box diplomacy....I mean after this slapping down I'd give those awful cretins a few days before they come to their senses and they'll all come crawling back on their hands and knees begging to be Israel's bestest friends again...

Israel has reportedly suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council nations

Israel's Foreign Ministry has reportedly suspended all working ties with 12 of the UN Security Council countries that voted to pass a resolution urging Israel to halt building settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

The move came at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's request, one day after he summoned 10 of the nations' ambassadors to Jerusalem to personally reprimand them for the vote.

Foreign ministers and ambassadors from Britain, France, Russia, China, Japan, Ukraine, Angola, Egypt, Uruguay, Spain, Senegal and New Zealand will not be received at Israel's Foreign Ministry amid the suspension, the Times of Israel reported. They will also not be granted an audience with Netanyahu

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-suspends-ties-with-12-un-security-council-nations-2016-12

Cheers

 

[Starstruck]

^ Read the Talmud sometime, just another group of supremacist, neurotic, tribal freaks. Apparently Jesus was supposed to cure them but it didn't take, his kingdom wasn't of this world and didn't include Israelite domination of all. I really have no idea what Judaism or Israel, or Zionism means on any level these days except colonizers, occupiers, ethnic cleansers, and apartheid secular theocrats. It's insanity and 70 + YRS. IS FAR, FAR, FAR TOO LONG. Screw the greater Israel craziness, these lunatics need to be cut off as barbaric relics.

 

[blutto]

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^ Read the Talmud sometime, just another group of supremacist, neurotic, tribal freaks. Apparently Jesus was supposed to cure them but it didn't take, his kingdom wasn't of this world and didn't include Israelite domination of all. I really have no idea what Judaism or Israel, or Zionism means on any level these days except colonizers, occupiers, ethnic cleansers, and apartheid secular theocrats. It's insanity and 70 + YRS. IS FAR, FAR, FAR TOO LONG. Screw the greater Israel craziness, these lunatics need to be cut off as barbaric relics.

....that's it there...don't hold back 'cause all that will do is give you gas, and then we will all suffer....

Cheers

 

[movingtarget]

....huh ?.....this right there is what youse call thinking out of the box diplomacy....I mean after this slapping down I'd give those awful cretins a few days before they come to their senses and they'll all come crawling back on their hands and knees begging to be Israel's bestest friends again...

Israel has reportedly suspended ties with 12 UN Security Council nations

Israel's Foreign Ministry has reportedly suspended all working ties with 12 of the UN Security Council countries that voted to pass a resolution urging Israel to halt building settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

The move came at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's request, one day after he summoned 10 of the nations' ambassadors to Jerusalem to personally reprimand them for the vote.

Foreign ministers and ambassadors from Britain, France, Russia, China, Japan, Ukraine, Angola, Egypt, Uruguay, Spain, Senegal and New Zealand will not be received at Israel's Foreign Ministry amid the suspension, the Times of Israel reported. They will also not be granted an audience with Netanyahu

.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-suspends-ties-with-12-un-security-council-nations-2016-12

Cheers

Israel is very predictable. Their solution to peace with the Palestinians is a simple one. "We will do what we want." But like a journalist with the Guardian said, why did the USA abstain ? Why not support the resolution or is that too radical an idea which will promote the end of the state of Israel ? Maybe Israel would cut ties with the USA in that case ? They have just about done that already with Obama but never fear, Donald will sort it just like he will sort all of the other international issues. I am sure that Senegal and New Zealand are shaking in their boots about Israel's response to their votes, I mean Israel means soooooooo much to such countries !