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auscyclefan94 said:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/asylum-seekers-to-be-released/story-fncynkc6-1226521220706 - Australian Government continues to fail on Immigration therefore backflips on policies that they criticised in the past. The sooner we get rid of this Government, the better!!!!!

It seems that their popularity including Gillard's has hit a plateau even with the announcement of the Royal Commission, the UN selection and the Wonder Woman anti discrimination pantomimes and she still has ongoing issues with Craig Thomson, her ex boyfriend re corruption in the union and the border protection mess. They are still a long way from being re-elected.
 
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It seems that their popularity including Gillard's has hit a plateau even with the announcement of the Royal Commission, the UN selection and the Wonder Woman anti discrimination pantomimes and she still has ongoing issues with Craig Thomson, her ex boyfriend re corruption in the union and the border protection mess. They are still a long way from being re-elected.

I think I would chop my **** off if they get re-elected.
 
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Why don't they just lay down so they can be treated like vermin for another three generations.

Never again, I say. Never again (unless they are Palestinians)!

BroDeal.... I am not suggesting that they "lay down". I agree that there should be a Palestinian state and that conditions in Gaza need to be improved. If their elected government (Hamas) put their energy in to building a peaceful society then they would get support for their state.

Instead we get this... people executed and dragged through the streets.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/20/hamas-executes-informants-israel-gaza
 
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BroDeal.... I am not suggesting that they "lay down". I agree that there should be a Palestinian state and that conditions in Gaza need to be improved. If their elected government (Hamas) put their energy in to building a peaceful society then they would get support for their state.

Sure. They should build their society within their concentration camp and be good model prisoners. Maybe one day, in another four or five generations, their jailers, commanded by generals who refer to the occupied as "cockroaches in a jar," will let their great great great great grand children be free. That plan worked brilliantly for the Jews in Nazi Germany. I am sure it will work even better for the Palestinians.

The Zionists don't want a viable Palestinian state and they have done everything they can to make one impossible. There is only one solution. The Golan Heights, Shebaa farms, and such go back to Syria. The rest of the land is made into single multicultural state. Choose a name in English or something so no preferance is given to Arab or Jew. Everyone has the same rights. That includes Palestinians having the right of return just like the Jews have today. The Palestinians who were enthically cleansed from their homes have to be made whole. The result would be a country with about a 50/50 split of Jews and Palestinians with a handful of Christians here and there. It will never happen because it would upset the neo fascists dream of a Jewish Reich.
 
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BroDeal said:
Sure. They should build their society within their concentration camp and be good model prisoners. Maybe one day, in another four or five generations, their jailers, commanded by generals who refer to the occupied as "cockroaches in a jar," will let their great great great great grand children be free. That plan worked brilliantly for the Jews in Nazi Germany. I am sure it will work even better for the Palestinians.

The Zionists don't want a viable Palestinian state and they have done everything they can to make one impossible. There is only one solution. The Golan Heights, Shebaa farms, and such go back to Syria. The rest of the land is made into single multicultural state. Choose a name in English or something so no preferance is given to Arab or Jew. Everyone has the same rights. That includes Palestinians having the right of return just like the Jews have today. The Palestinians who were enthically cleansed from their homes have to be made whole. The result would be a country with about a 50/50 split of Jews and Palestinians with a handful of Christians here and there. It will never happen because it would upset the neo fascists dream of a Jewish Reich.

Agreed, but do not forget that it is not like the islamofascists would like too share anything either. That place has become a maelstrom of war and unrest because of peoples divine right to this "holy" land
 
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VeloCity said:
Ceasefire in Gaza?

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/269077-report-gaza-truce-agreed-to

Setting aside the Middle East political/social issues for a moment and looking at it purely from a domestic political perspective, what a feather in the cap for Hillary if she does intend to run in 2016.

god no, not yet another Clinton run for president? thought America would finally get ridd of that family on top politics after this Obama period
 
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so we have another seized fire ? i seriously doubt it will last or move the core issues underlying the hostilities one inch.

if anything the truce reveals israel's increasing impotence.

all despite their using high tech air force, fancy anti-missile defenses, drones, threats of land invasion by one of world's most powerful armoured forces etc ...all this against essentially several bands of desperate street fighters representing 1.7 million unarmed, ratcheted, living under a blockade civilians.

think about it !

1) israel agreed to the shaky conditions mediated by a side (egypt) whose new muslim brotherhood president refuses the very word 'israel', a country egypt negotiated with.

2) the dozens (if not hundreds) of long range fajr-5 rockets that sent millions of israelis into bomb shelter are still in hamas' possession.

3) these crude, militarily worthless but a pr-potent rockets could only be smuggled through egypt - the main mediator and the guarantor of the latest truce :rolleyes:

4) and finally, the true winner of the gaza escalation - iran - emerged unharmed and unhindered in its ability to extend hamas' rocket ranges and accuracy and, most importantly, to divert attention from its struggling ally - syria.

that israel and its main backer (the us) agreed to these new middle east realities speaks volumes of their impotence in the face of increasing religious extremism they claim to fight but more likely feed/sustain and are responsible for.
 
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San Francisco has just banned public nudity: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20404710

Apparantly, the ban will be appealed under a 1st amendment 'right to expression'. Doubt it will win, but who knows? Anyone from San Francisco? How much of a problem was public nudity. Was it just an occasional nusiance in geographically remote spaces or was it more widespread?
 
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Pazuzu said:
San Francisco has just banned public nudity: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20404710

Apparantly, the ban will be appealed under a 1st amendment 'right to expression'. Doubt it will win, but who knows? Anyone from San Francisco? How much of a problem was public nudity. Was it just an occasional nusiance in geographically remote spaces or was it more widespread?

In general, as expected, you wouldn't see anyone naked that you would want to. That said, while the Castro is not remote, it's easy enough to stay out of if you don't want to be there. And, if you do, then the public exposure shouldn't be a problem--or you're really missing the point.

At the moments in the city when people of all genders and ages would have been using nudity as a means of politicized cultural expression, it wouldn't have been seen by many who weren't sympathetic to the gesture. Hence, by no one who cared. But at this point the city has so surpassed itself in absurdity (and like Berkeley is turning in on its legacy of significant political radicality) that nude middle aged guys only look quaint and naive more than objectionable.
 
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Vino attacks everyone said:
god no, not yet another Clinton run for president? thought America would finally get ridd of that family on top politics after this Obama period

Twas president messiah who (having campaigned that her foreign policy was wrong) gave her the position. I still remember the press meeting afterwords where a brave journalist asked him about the contradiction and he replied with the " dont look to the past look to the future" crap:rolleyes:

As I recall he then proceeded to endorse Caroline Kennedy for Senate, despite the fact it later turned out she barely knew that Washington DC is the capital.
 
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The Hitch said:
Twas president messiah who (having campaigned that her foreign policy was wrong) gave her the position. I still remember the press meeting afterwords where a brave journalist asked him about the contradiction and he replied with the " dont look to the past look to the future" crap:rolleyes:

As I recall he then proceeded to endorse Caroline Kennedy for Senate, despite the fact it later turned out she barely knew that Washington DC is the capital.

Name recognition saves plenty of dough in the campaign. Works for Clinton, works for Kennedy (well not Caroline, but the other Kennedy who's in da House now).
 
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Name recognition saves plenty of dough in the campaign. Works for Clinton, works for Kennedy (well not Caroline, but the other Kennedy who's in da House now).

Isnt Obama supposed to be the "change" from the old politics? He became president promising to change Washington. Imo,going back on that so quickly (before being even sworn in) is something worth remembering.
 
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The Hitch said:
Isnt Obama supposed to be the "change" from the old politics? He became president promising to change Washington. Imo,going back on that so quickly (before being even sworn in) is something worth remembering.

What can he change? the domestic policy in the country is so divided amongst the citizens that it is hard to do much. and the foreign policy in Washignton is controlled by the Saudis... rotten to the core and inefficient the whole system over there if you ask me
 
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The Hitch said:
Isnt Obama supposed to be the "change" from the old politics? He became president promising to change Washington. Imo,going back on that so quickly (before being even sworn in) is something worth remembering.

I won't argue to the contrary.
 
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Any thoughts on the Catalan election? Will they move towards independence further rocking Spain. Can't see how they can survive on their own though.
 
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the asian said:
Any thoughts on the Catalan election? Will they move towards independence further rocking Spain. Can't see how they can survive on their own though.
Why not? Europe is full of quaint little nation states. If anything, being tethered to Spain -- with its enormous debt load -- is a liability. You can't blame them for wanting to go their own way.
 
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Any thoughts on the Catalan election? Will they move towards independence further rocking Spain. Can't see how they can survive on their own though.

catalonia (?) is one of the most prosperous part of Spain. They would manage themselves pretty well i recon. Have no idea how Spain will react to it though
 
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....a look at the Greek financial disaster...and how that disaster is a small example of a much larger problem...

....the key lines...

"When the people of Greece saw their democratically elected Prime Minister George Papandreou forced out of office in November of 2011 and replaced by an unelected Conservative technocrat, Lucas Papademos, most were unaware of the bigger picture of what was happening all around them."

....and...

"In 2001, Goldman Sachs secretly helped Greece hide billions of dollars through the use of complex financial instruments like credit default swaps. This allowed Greece to meet the baseline requirements to enter the Eurozone in the first place. But it also created a debt bubble that would later explode and bring about the current economic crisis that’s drowning the entire continent. But, always looking ahead, Goldman protected itself from this debt bubble by betting against Greek bonds, expecting that they would eventually fail.

Ironically, the man who headed up the Central Bank of Greece while this deal was being arranged with Goldman was – drumroll please – Lucas Papademos."

....boy that is some stinking smelly heap of irony...

....from... http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/12996-goldman-sachs-global-coup-de-tat

...looking at this brings to mind a line from the current president of Iceland , which roughly paraphrased, said....the key to our success is that we bailed out the people and threw the banksters in jail....in my view, given the scale and consequences of the disaster that was willfully perpetrated, jail is too kind an option, the banksters got off way too easy...

Cheers

blutto
 
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US needs a another Clinton in the White House like cycling needs another doping scandal. What is the point of the UN when Israel do what they want anyway ? I see that more Jewish settlements are to be built on the Left bank even though the US advised against it.
 
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