World Politics

[auscyclefan94]

Lights to be turned off in France to save money and show 'sobriety' - Daily Mail

Quite disturbing plan.

 

[Mad Elephant Man]

Lights to be turned off in France to save money and show 'sobriety' - Daily Mail

Quite disturbing plan.

I think this is a excellent plan. It will encourage lots of people to go out at night and use the cover of darkness to commit crimes. Save on electricity costs, pay for more police to control the chaos that the ensues.

 

[frenchfry]

Lights to be turned off in France to save money and show 'sobriety' - Daily Mail

Quite disturbing plan.

I think this is a excellent plan. It will encourage lots of people to go out at night and use the cover of darkness to commit crimes. Save on electricity costs, pay for more police to control the chaos that the ensues.

I don't see what the problem is with implementing measures to reduce the wasteful consumption of energy. It doesn't mean total darkness either, for example in the town where I live only every second street light is left on after 11 PM, it is still light enough to see.

Despite what some think, energy pollutes no matter what the source so we have to look for ways to reduce. For once the Holland government is doing something intelligent!

 

[auscyclefan94]

I don't see what the problem is with implementing measures to reduce the wasteful consumption of energy. It doesn't mean total darkness either, for example in the town where I live only every second street light is left on after 11 PM, it is still light enough to see.

Despite what some think, energy pollutes no matter what the source so we have to look for ways to reduce. For once the Holland government is doing something intelligent!

Well for this activity it is "lights out" and people would have to carry torches. That means pretty much total darkness and is very extreme but I wouldn't expect anything less from a socialist like Hollande.

 

[auscyclefan94]

election year!!!!! Booyah!!!!!

 

[phanatic]

I think this is a excellent plan. It will encourage lots of people to go out at night and use the cover of darkness to commit crimes. Save on electricity costs, pay for more police to control the chaos that the ensues.

You have to pay anyway you work it. Might as well just pay the danelaw, jizya, extortion, or whatever it is. It's not like paying for guns and court cases is any cheaper.

 

[auscyclefan94]

ALP begins the year with a gaffe from Macklin...they really can't help themselves.

 

[movingtarget]

ALP begins the year with a gaffe from Macklin...they really can't help themselves.

Only a complete moron would say something like that. Shows you how out of touch they are. Unemployed people that can't get into housing commission have to share expenses with others and it's still a struggle with utilities prices etc..... otherwise they are living on the streets or out of a car, and she is supposed to be the federal minister.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Only a complete moron would say something like that. Shows you how out of touch they are. Unemployed people that can't get into housing commission have to share expenses with others and it's still a struggle with utilities prices etc..... otherwise they are living on the streets or out of a car, and she is supposed to be the federal minister.

Personally, I would raise the initial payments that someone receives when on the dole but have it at that level for a shorter time, unless sufficient effort has gone into finding a job and that means more than the current criteria requires. I would also have the work for the dole scheme immediately for someone who has just started receiving dole payments (i.e. likeit was in Howard Govt) and not after a year like it is now.

In saying this, the $35 per day statement does not take into consideration that similar people receive benefits for rent and utilities from the Government. Also, being on the dole is not suppose to allow someone their current lifestyle to remain but rather force them to make financial changes as well, so that they are obliged to find a job.

 

[Alphabet]

One of the upshots of the 'Fiscal Cliff' is that you can hear loads of American government officials talking about money, which always makes for hilarious listening, because of their over-the-top accent and tone of voice .

"SIR, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS A FEDERAL RESERVE FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND.."

 

[auscyclefan94]

One of the upshots of the 'Fiscal Cliff' is that you can hear loads of American government officials talking about money, which always makes for hilarious listening, because of their over-the-top accent and tone of voice .

"SIR, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS A FEDERAL RESERVE FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND.."

LOL, I can imagine an American guy saying that!

 

[movingtarget]

Personally, I would raise the initial payments that someone receives when on the dole but have it at that level for a shorter time, unless sufficient effort has gone into finding a job and that means more than the current criteria requires. I would also have the work for the dole scheme immediately for someone who has just started receiving dole payments (i.e. likeit was in Howard Govt) and not after a year like it is now.

In saying this, the $35 per day statement does not take into consideration that similar people receive benefits for rent and utilities from the Government. Also, being on the dole is not suppose to allow someone their current lifestyle to remain but rather force them to make financial changes as well, so that they are obliged to find a job.

The jobs are not there anyway especially for older people with minimal qualifications. Not everyone can go and pick fruit and it seems some farms are relying on offshore labour for those jobs now as they pay them less. Cutting $60.00 a week from single mother's because the government can't get it's budget right says it all. I agree that with school leavers and younger people there has to be an incentive to work but many of the older ones are unemployable anyway and what are you going to do ? Treat them worse than the boat people and throw them on the streets ? There has to be a balance. The American system is much tougher not that that is always a good thing.

 

[auscyclefan94]

The jobs are not there anyway especially for older people with minimal qualifications. Not everyone can go and pick fruit and it seems some farms are relying on offshore labour for those jobs now as they pay them less. Cutting $60.00 a week from single mother's because the government can't get it's budget right says it all. I agree that with school leavers and younger people there has to be an incentive to work but many of the older ones are unemployable anyway and what are you going to do ? Treat them worse than the boat people and throw them on the streets ? There has to be a balance. The American system is much tougher not that that is always a good thing.

For some older people yes but the problem is that many of these unemployed people are very fussy about what job they want to take and don't want to move areas for a job. Coalition actually has a policy for encouraging business to employ older people.

On the 'boat people' comment, I really think you should review that comment. Those boat people receive on average $56,680 per year in comparison to the average aged pension which is around $16,068 per year. I totally reject the premise that Australia treats boat people badly. I think we treat them quite fairly. What is shocking is how we treat our elderly people, actual Australian citizens who have worked to build this country. Considering that the boat people you refer to are given shelter, a place to live, choices of food, internet access, tv and access to education all on the back of the Australian tax payer, I think they do quite well.

 

[movingtarget]

For some older people yes but the problem is that many of these unemployed people are very fussy about what job they want to take and don't want to move areas for a job. Coalition actually has a policy for encouraging business to employ older people.

On the 'boat people' comment, I really think you should review that comment. Those boat people receive on average $56,680 per year in comparison to the average aged pension which is around $16,068 per year. I totally reject the premise that Australia treats boat people badly. I think we treat them quite fairly. What is shocking is how we treat our elderly people, actual Australian citizens who have worked to build this country. Considering that the boat people you refer to are given shelter, a place to live, choices of food, internet access, tv and access to education all on the back of the Australian tax payer, I think they do quite well.

No my point was that the boat people ARE well treated and I don't think Australian citizens should be stuggling on the poverty line more than they already are.

 

[auscyclefan94]

No my point was that the boat people ARE well treated and I don't think Australian citizens should be stuggling on the poverty line more than they already are.

Okay, but then why did you say this?

Treat them worse than the boat people and throw them on the streets ? There has to be a balance. The American system is much tougher not that that is always a good thing.

Sorry, I am just a bit confused.

 

[movingtarget]

Okay, but then why did you say this?


Sorry, I am just a bit confused.

Okay it was clumsy wording and created the wrong impression but I definitely agree with your thoughts on the subject re illegals.

 

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[auscyclefan94]

Wayne Swan lack of intelligence shines again. Tries to call a discussion paper about compulsory voting as a "tactics of the Tea Party in the United States, trying to stop people from exercising their democratic rights". I want what he is smoking. Somehow voluntary voting according to him is undemocratic. Unbelievable how stupid he is.

 

[movingtarget]

Wayne Swan lack of intelligence shines again. Tries to call a discussion paper about compulsory voting as a "tactics of the Tea Party in the United States, trying to stop people from exercising their democratic rights". I want what he is smoking. Somehow voluntary voting according to him is undemocratic. Unbelievable how stupid he is.

They are such a bunch of hacks. World's best treasurer.........shudder.

 

[auscyclefan94]

They are such a bunch of hacks. World's best treasurer.........shudder.

The people who gave that title to Swan also gave awards out to many other companies who went under during the GFC.

I do have a joke for you.

Q: What is the difference between a cactus and the ALP caucus?

A: In the caucus, the *** are on the inside!!!!

 

[auscyclefan94]

Movingtarget, if you ever have a silly leftie use the Abbott-misogyny claims against him, just remember to use some of Julia Gillard's positions when President of the Australian Union of Students.

The AUS was then totally dominated by the extreme left. In 1983 — the year she was elected AUS president — an AUS annual council defeated heavily a call to oppose "all acts of terrorism and political violence" (AUS Annual Council 1983: motion N28).

Furthermore, the AUS annual council declined to recognise the rights of religious clubs and societies at universities to "express their views on campus" or to have access to campus facilities (AUS Annual Council 1983: motion N34).

The AUS declared 1983 to be the International Year of the Lesbian.

It also adopted a policy on prostitution which said, in part: "Prostitution takes many forms and is not only the exchange of money for sex. … Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and house-keeping." (Quoted by Helen Trinca, The Australian, April 6, 1984, p.7).

This bizarre statement made headlines across Australia. Anti-AUS student activists produced posters with the slogan: "AUS says your mother is a prostitute!"

[snip]

From 1984 until 1993, Ms Gillard became a prominent figure in the militant left Socialist Forum, which had recently been formed by disaffected members of the Communist Party of Australia and Labor's left-wing. It sought, among other things, to remove Australia from the ANZUS alliance and to twin Melbourne with Leningrad

http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=4346

 

[BroDeal]

When does global warming kick in? Daytime highs have been like -10C here. During night it's 20 below.

Everyone drive more for a couple of weeks.