World Politics

[blutto]

Re: Re:

Are you going to troll, or do you actually want to have a discussion? If it is the former I won't reply to your posts anymore. thx

You are right. I admit that was trolling a bit. I was drawn to python's, glenn's, blutto, etc banter up top and fell victim. As you probably have noticed, my political beliefs are more liberal/progressive than theirs (though that's just my opinion, I apologize to them if I am wrongly labeling them), but in terms of some foreign policy regarding the US we share similar beliefs. My honest opinion? I think some of the 'conservatives' on the politics boards here would probably feel different about Russia had Obama had more ties to Putin, for example. Ties as in political and economic deals, working together militarily, etc. I don't think they are fully on board with Trump, but they are just not too thrilled about Hillary. Just like a lot of Democrats are regarding Hillary. Not a wonderful candidate, but they look at Trump and that's that. Personally? I don't like either of them. I've stated that many times here. Not only do I despise their politics and their nastiness, oh and their former ties-Trump donating to both of the Clintons in the past, but to me, they just seem like manipulative, disingenuous, corrupt human beings. I know that's a strong opinion, particularly since I've never met them or anyone affiliated with them, but that's how I honestly feel. I saw what a Bill Clinton presidency did to the country of my birth and I can assure you, many in that region are not too thrilled about him or his wife and soon to be president. In that group are also people like Richard Holbrooke, Tony Blair, Madeline Albright, Javier Solana, etc. I'll spare you the rant on that particular issue, but just so you have an idea where I am coming from with my disdain towards Clinton. I have also not seen any changes in international relations and policy that is not dictated by militarism and profiteering by and via large corporations in the US and abroad. In that respect, Hilary or Donald are certainly not the first, last or most egregious, there are many that fall there. To be fair to the Donald, he's never made a political decision that's put lives in danger as far as military action is concerned, but I have no doubt that if such a time were to come, he would no doubt do it. That I guarantee Scott, Glenn, Blutto, Aphro, and others.

Now as far as Russia is concerned, I am not pro Putin. That may come as a surprise to you and the other readers here, but that's the truth. What I am however not going to do, is be hypnotized by the media and various politicians in blaming and pointing fingers at Russia for all political, military and economic problems. I know it's a popular thing to do, but I am not going to fall for it. Putin carries baggage, and he's certainly no angel, but this is tit for tat politics and I've seen this in play in US foreign policy and media relations before. I didn't fall for it then and I am certainly not going to fall for it now. As an aside, though I think it's very much relevant, the entire debacle of Russian sports being embroiled in the recent doping scandal, is political. Pure and simple. I don't want to go into detail here in a non-clinic thread, but I think the whole issue is being driven by politics. The American Olympic Committee and USATF was caught doing similar things in previous Olympics and World Championship cycles, and nothing was done. No recommendations for a blanket ban, no economic sanctions, very little media scrutiny. Again, it's this tit for tat.

That's where I stand.

....as long as we airing laundry....have worked for the Canadian Green Party ( which is not much like its US counterpart though the US is getting closer to our positions ) over the last several election cycles ( as much as anything because my party of choice, the NDP of the great Tommy Douglas and Ed Broadbent and Steven Lewis lost its mind and tried moving to centre stage ( in doing so they increased their nominal support but lost their soul ))....have also worked for candidates who represented "good value" to their constituents ( Liberal, Progressive Conservatives, Independents ) ....I have banged on literally thousands and thousands of doors, and manned phones, and did office work and researched policy studies....a bit of a wonk I guess, that leans heavily left, though have a lot of respect for both Pierre Trudeau and the Progressive Conservatives who ran Ontario for decades ...

...if you have the time please give a listen to the CBC Radio interview found here....and ponder that 1000 number...it ain't much is it, but it just may do the trick....

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/email-madness-ralph-nader-farewell-to-the-upright-piano-gopnik-on-being-a-parent-1.3782876/ralph-nader-on-the-ethics-of-voting-for-a-third-party-candidate-if-polls-show-donald-trump-might-win-1.3782887

Cheers

 

[blutto]

.....madness and stupidity....a potent and toxic mixture....

If the greatest poker game of all times will end by nuclear grand slam, and the survivors will review the causes of WWIII, they will die laughing. The Third World War had been fought to save al Qaeda. Yes, my dear readers! Uncle Sam invaded Afghanistan in order to punish al Qaeda, and now he started the World War to save al Qaeda. Positively a great ambivalent passionate love/hate relationship between the American gentleman and the Arab girl, from 9/11 to Aleppo.

For the future historians, the WWIII commenced with the US decision to terminate bilateral talks with Russia over Syria. Let the arms do the talking, they said. Here is an exclusive revelation:

The US decided to suspend talks after Russia called for withdrawal of al Qaeda (al Nusra Front etc.) fighters from Aleppo. This was the casus belli

.

As usual, they made a lot of humanitarian-sounding noise about suffering children of Aleppo. Why Aleppo, and not Mosul with its mounting victims? Just because the killers of Mosul are supported by the US? Why not Yemen, where Saudi troops using American weapons (procured after giving a hefty bribe to Clinton’s war chest) to kill more children than there are in Aleppo? And where is this great sisterly supporter of Mme Clinton, Mrs Albright who famously said “it was worth it” to kill five hundred thousand children of Iraq?

The Syrian war also can end with rebels’ defeat. The government will assume its control, the Syrians will run the elections, and eventually come to a modicum of co-existence. Are you worried the elections under Bashar Assad won’t be fair? The US can loan them Mrs Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to oversee the elections. I am sure, chances of Assad won’t be better or worse than those of Mrs Clinton in the US elections

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/nuclear-poker/

Cheers

 

[BullsFan22]

.....madness and stupidity....a potent and toxic mixture....

If the greatest poker game of all times will end by nuclear grand slam, and the survivors will review the causes of WWIII, they will die laughing. The Third World War had been fought to save al Qaeda. Yes, my dear readers! Uncle Sam invaded Afghanistan in order to punish al Qaeda, and now he started the World War to save al Qaeda. Positively a great ambivalent passionate love/hate relationship between the American gentleman and the Arab girl, from 9/11 to Aleppo.

For the future historians, the WWIII commenced with the US decision to terminate bilateral talks with Russia over Syria. Let the arms do the talking, they said. Here is an exclusive revelation:

The US decided to suspend talks after Russia called for withdrawal of al Qaeda (al Nusra Front etc.) fighters from Aleppo. This was the casus belli

.

As usual, they made a lot of humanitarian-sounding noise about suffering children of Aleppo. Why Aleppo, and not Mosul with its mounting victims? Just because the killers of Mosul are supported by the US? Why not Yemen, where Saudi troops using American weapons (procured after giving a hefty bribe to Clinton’s war chest) to kill more children than there are in Aleppo? And where is this great sisterly supporter of Mme Clinton, Mrs Albright who famously said “it was worth it” to kill five hundred thousand children of Iraq?

The Syrian war also can end with rebels’ defeat. The government will assume its control, the Syrians will run the elections, and eventually come to a modicum of co-existence. Are you worried the elections under Bashar Assad won’t be fair? The US can loan them Mrs Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to oversee the elections. I am sure, chances of Assad won’t be better or worse than those of Mrs Clinton in the US elections

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/nuclear-poker/

Cheers

MIC DROP!!!

 

[blutto]

Looks like the Russian stooges are out in full force in Yemen as well!!

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/10/11/obama_is_killing_yemen_a_yemeni

Syria using Russia intel, 'targeting', aircraft..BUT the difference is Russian pilots dropping the dumb cluster bombs on civilian targets, mainly in east Allepo.

Putin_is_killing_syria___

....this from the New York Trash so you know this is just a hopelessly biased bit of propaganda.....so even given that a seemingly worthwhile read....

Cluster bombs, which have been used since World War II to kill and maim indiscriminately, were outlawed under an international treaty that was adopted in 2008.

Most of the world’s countries have signed the treaty, but not the United States and Russia, where many of the bombs were made. A report released on Thursday in Geneva found that the weapons continued to be used with near impunity in the conflicts in Syria and Yemen.

In Syria, at least 13 kinds of cluster munitions — dropped from the air or launched from the ground — have been used since 2012, said the report, the seventh annual Cluster Munition Monitor, which found “compelling evidence” that Russia had used the weapons since the start of its military intervention last September in support of Syria’s embattled government.

In Yemen, seven kinds of cluster munitions were used in 19 attacks from April 2015 to February of this year as part of the Saudi-led coalition’s fight against Shiite Houthi rebels, the report found. Saudi Arabia, which has not signed the treaty, has acknowledged using the munitions once, in April 2015. Most of the cluster bombs used in Yemen originated in three countries: the United States, Britain and Brazil.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/world/middleeast/cluster-bombs-syria-yemen.html?_r=0

....so where are your crocodile tears for the victims in Yemen....and maybe some condemnation of the manufacturers of such munitions....

...and btw there is a world of difference btwn "compelling evidence" and "has acknowledged" ....

...and there is this blast from the past...curious, were you involved in any of these actions ?

Next week, Mr. Obama will visit Laos as part of his final trip to Asia as president. Laos is the country most heavily contaminated by cluster bombs, which the United States dropped from 1964 to 1973, during the Vietnam War. Fourteen of the country’s 17 provinces, and a quarter of its villages, are thought to be contaminated with cluster bombs from that era, as are many parts of Cambodia and Vietnam.

Cheers

I guess that sound is the point going over your head. Both the US and Russia are doing the same thing with the difference that Russia militAry is actively involved in this. To only mention another place where you can condemn the US w/o mentioning Russia shows.......?

Why don't you use your vast google-sense to see what impact Russia bombing had On Afghanistan, unless you don't really want to criticize anything Russia, Just things US.

Did I serve in the military, yes I did but to imply as a military member I may have been involved and as such, guilty of something is exactly what I expect from some civilians. Pretty easy to cut and paste, pretty hard to actually serve...even in Canada. But in blutto world, government/establishment/military bad...sitting at a keyboard and complaining in the comfort of a living room-easy.

Cheers

....have to apologize for typing something really inappropriate and monumentally stupid.....no excuses, just inappropriate and stupid....

Cheers

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

Are you going to troll, or do you actually want to have a discussion? If it is the former I won't reply to your posts anymore. thx

You are right. I admit that was trolling a bit. I was drawn to python's, glenn's, blutto, etc banter up top and fell victim. As you probably have noticed, my political beliefs are more liberal/progressive than theirs (though that's just my opinion, I apologize to them if I am wrongly labeling them), but in terms of some foreign policy regarding the US we share similar beliefs. My honest opinion? I think some of the 'conservatives' on the politics boards here would probably feel different about Russia had Obama had more ties to Putin, for example. Ties as in political and economic deals, working together militarily, etc. I don't think they are fully on board with Trump, but they are just not too thrilled about Hillary. Just like a lot of Democrats are regarding Hillary. Not a wonderful candidate, but they look at Trump and that's that. Personally? I don't like either of them. I've stated that many times here. Not only do I despise their politics and their nastiness, oh and their former ties-Trump donating to both of the Clintons in the past, but to me, they just seem like manipulative, disingenuous, corrupt human beings. I know that's a strong opinion, particularly since I've never met them or anyone affiliated with them, but that's how I honestly feel. I saw what a Bill Clinton presidency did to the country of my birth and I can assure you, many in that region are not too thrilled about him or his wife and soon to be president. In that group are also people like Richard Holbrooke, Tony Blair, Madeline Albright, Javier Solana, etc. I'll spare you the rant on that particular issue, but just so you have an idea where I am coming from with my disdain towards Clinton. I have also not seen any changes in international relations and policy that is not dictated by militarism and profiteering by and via large corporations in the US and abroad. In that respect, Hilary or Donald are certainly not the first, last or most egregious, there are many that fall there. To be fair to the Donald, he's never made a political decision that's put lives in danger as far as military action is concerned, but I have no doubt that if such a time were to come, he would no doubt do it. That I guarantee Scott, Glenn, Blutto, Aphro, and others.

Now as far as Russia is concerned, I am not pro Putin. That may come as a surprise to you and the other readers here, but that's the truth. What I am however not going to do, is be hypnotized by the media and various politicians in blaming and pointing fingers at Russia for all political, military and economic problems. I know it's a popular thing to do, but I am not going to fall for it. Putin carries baggage, and he's certainly no angel, but this is tit for tat politics and I've seen this in play in US foreign policy and media relations before. I didn't fall for it then and I am certainly not going to fall for it now. As an aside, though I think it's very much relevant, the entire debacle of Russian sports being embroiled in the recent doping scandal, is political. Pure and simple. I don't want to go into detail here in a non-clinic thread, but I think the whole issue is being driven by politics. The American Olympic Committee and USATF was caught doing similar things in previous Olympics and World Championship cycles, and nothing was done. No recommendations for a blanket ban, no economic sanctions, very little media scrutiny. Again, it's this tit for tat.

That's where I stand.

....as long as we airing laundry....have worked for the Canadian Green Party ( which is not much like its US counterpart though the US is getting closer to our positions ) over the last several election cycles ( as much as anything because my party of choice, the NDP of the great Tommy Douglas and Ed Broadbent and Steven Lewis lost its mind and tried moving to centre stage ( in doing so they increased their nominal support but lost their soul ))....have also worked for candidates who represented "good value" to their constituents ( Liberal, Progressive Conservatives, Independents ) ....I have banged on literally thousands and thousands of doors, and manned phones, and did office work and researched policy studies....a bit of a wonk I guess, that leans heavily left, though have a lot of respect for both Pierre Trudeau and the Progressive Conservatives who ran Ontario for decades ...

...if you have the time please give a listen to the CBC Radio interview found here....and ponder that 1000 number...it ain't much is it, but it just may do the trick....

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/email-madness-ralph-nader-farewell-to-the-upright-piano-gopnik-on-being-a-parent-1.3782876/ralph-nader-on-the-ethics-of-voting-for-a-third-party-candidate-if-polls-show-donald-trump-might-win-1.3782887

Cheers

Gotta love justing though. Marches in Gay Pride while defending selling $15 billion dollars worth of arms to a country which beheads gays. Apparently it's a 'matter of principle' to respect the arms deal.

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

Are you going to troll, or do you actually want to have a discussion? If it is the former I won't reply to your posts anymore. thx

You are right. I admit that was trolling a bit. I was drawn to python's, glenn's, blutto, etc banter up top and fell victim. As you probably have noticed, my political beliefs are more liberal/progressive than theirs (though that's just my opinion, I apologize to them if I am wrongly labeling them), but in terms of some foreign policy regarding the US we share similar beliefs. My honest opinion? I think some of the 'conservatives' on the politics boards here would probably feel different about Russia had Obama had more ties to Putin, for example. Ties as in political and economic deals, working together militarily, etc. I don't think they are fully on board with Trump, but they are just not too thrilled about Hillary. Just like a lot of Democrats are regarding Hillary. Not a wonderful candidate, but they look at Trump and that's that. Personally? I don't like either of them. I've stated that many times here. Not only do I despise their politics and their nastiness, oh and their former ties-Trump donating to both of the Clintons in the past, but to me, they just seem like manipulative, disingenuous, corrupt human beings. I know that's a strong opinion, particularly since I've never met them or anyone affiliated with them, but that's how I honestly feel. I saw what a Bill Clinton presidency did to the country of my birth and I can assure you, many in that region are not too thrilled about him or his wife and soon to be president. In that group are also people like Richard Holbrooke, Tony Blair, Madeline Albright, Javier Solana, etc. I'll spare you the rant on that particular issue, but just so you have an idea where I am coming from with my disdain towards Clinton. I have also not seen any changes in international relations and policy that is not dictated by militarism and profiteering by and via large corporations in the US and abroad. In that respect, Hilary or Donald are certainly not the first, last or most egregious, there are many that fall there. To be fair to the Donald, he's never made a political decision that's put lives in danger as far as military action is concerned, but I have no doubt that if such a time were to come, he would no doubt do it. That I guarantee Scott, Glenn, Blutto, Aphro, and others.

Now as far as Russia is concerned, I am not pro Putin. That may come as a surprise to you and the other readers here, but that's the truth. What I am however not going to do, is be hypnotized by the media and various politicians in blaming and pointing fingers at Russia for all political, military and economic problems. I know it's a popular thing to do, but I am not going to fall for it. Putin carries baggage, and he's certainly no angel, but this is tit for tat politics and I've seen this in play in US foreign policy and media relations before. I didn't fall for it then and I am certainly not going to fall for it now. As an aside, though I think it's very much relevant, the entire debacle of Russian sports being embroiled in the recent doping scandal, is political. Pure and simple. I don't want to go into detail here in a non-clinic thread, but I think the whole issue is being driven by politics. The American Olympic Committee and USATF was caught doing similar things in previous Olympics and World Championship cycles, and nothing was done. No recommendations for a blanket ban, no economic sanctions, very little media scrutiny. Again, it's this tit for tat.

That's where I stand.

....as long as we airing laundry....have worked for the Canadian Green Party ( which is not much like its US counterpart though the US is getting closer to our positions ) over the last several election cycles ( as much as anything because my party of choice, the NDP of the great Tommy Douglas and Ed Broadbent and Steven Lewis lost its mind and tried moving to centre stage ( in doing so they increased their nominal support but lost their soul ))....have also worked for candidates who represented "good value" to their constituents ( Liberal, Progressive Conservatives, Independents ) ....I have banged on literally thousands and thousands of doors, and manned phones, and did office work and researched policy studies....a bit of a wonk I guess, that leans heavily left, though have a lot of respect for both Pierre Trudeau and the Progressive Conservatives who ran Ontario for decades ...

...if you have the time please give a listen to the CBC Radio interview found here....and ponder that 1000 number...it ain't much is it, but it just may do the trick....

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/email-madness-ralph-nader-farewell-to-the-upright-piano-gopnik-on-being-a-parent-1.3782876/ralph-nader-on-the-ethics-of-voting-for-a-third-party-candidate-if-polls-show-donald-trump-might-win-1.3782887

Cheers

Gotta love justing though. Marches in Gay Pride while defending selling $15 billion dollars worth of arms to a country which beheads gays. Apparently it's a 'matter of principle' to respect the arms deal.

....yeah fully agree....and it couldn't have made Dion, who was in charge of that file very comfortable about what he ended up having to say.... that being said, Harper is gone....and by almost any metric that is a very good thing.....

Cheers

 

[Brullnux]

Very true

 

[Starstruck]

To get reacquainted with my Russian stooge suit I watched this most revealing BBC documentary again last night:
Russian Godfathers (1 of 3) The Fugitive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPxyDlQfBc

The series is quite a rare inside glimpse as to how these wars are waged. Boris Berezovsky (the kingmaker) expresses more than a few regrets for having tapped Putin as president.

 

[aphronesis]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/launches-strikes-houthi-radar-sites-yemen-161013041922132.html

 

[Semper Fidelis]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/launches-strikes-houthi-radar-sites-yemen-161013041922132.html

Those are Iranian backed location correct?

This AM I read where Iran was sending Destroyers there.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/launches-strikes-houthi-radar-sites-yemen-161013041922132.html

Those are Iranian backed location correct?

This AM I read where Iran was sending Destroyers there.

I wonder if they are in the same condition as their obsolete Air Force?

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

And vice versa. The boogeyman for Russia always seems to be the USA. Notice how RT tried to pin the UN convoy attack on the USA.

Why on earth would you read or watch RT?? It's Putin's puff piece journalism at work!

As for the humanitarian convoy, the BBC video clearly shows traces of thermobaric ammo Hellfire, used by the US Predator drone

http://www.unz.com/ishamir/nuclear-poker/

Cheers

 

[python]

the following bit is no loner just a symbol...nor is a symptom, rather a consequence of the new balance of power..

China Poised to Take Over US Air Base, Invest in Portugal’s Azores
http://dailywiki.net/news/china-poised-to-take-over-us-air-base-invest-in-portugals-azores

remarkably, most americans refuse to recognize - or perhaps not aware b/c it's not reported by us msm - the monumental change. it's not the 1st nor the only example of a displacement.

in this regard it's interesting to observe the difference btwn the chinese and russian tactics. while the chinese are quiet spreading their influence through commerce and science (the s. china sea an exception), the russians are somewhat more noisy if not 'more in-you-face' doing what they can where america left vacuum...i think of a syria gambit, of crimea...while i understand their actions, i just realized i could be expelled from a secret stooge club for being the heretic :surprised:

my explanation - a cultural difference perhaps...

 

[movingtarget]

Putin and The Russian Economy

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgOcuYOtZhXEqcpvlGpgZEKe2dAS6MN8Dsy9d+pzwhFKkpyVOaLqf3dz0ulssMQ6zINHt/pNv4kjXZ6+gx8L5x9c4KsAyRIbPtia9cFbXttNVu1cWQhBB3lh7WvZQXItOZ&campaign_id=129&instance_id=84632&segment_id=96616&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

 

[Brullnux]

I'm worried. Some commentators actively calling for a war against Russia.

 

[python]

Re:

I'm worried. Some commentators actively calling for a war against Russia.

I am too, but seriously, what are you afraid of ?

would you be afraidf if unlike lybia, iraq, syria, cuba, equador, afghanistan, iran and on and on, they couldnt hit back and hit very hard ? it's a serious question.

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

I'm worried. Some commentators actively calling for a war against Russia.

I am too, but seriously, what are you afraid of ?

would you be afraidf if unlike lybia, iraq, syria, cuba, equador, afghanistan, iran and on and on, they couldnt hit back and hit very hard ? it's a serious question.

....and there is this....

Could it be that after losing Russia to their lies, the Neocons will now lose the United States to their apparently incurable propensity to rule by deception?

For years I used to dismiss the US Presidential elections like a joke, a fraud and an exercise in collective brainwashing. This time around, and for the first time, I think that there is a possibility, however slim, that something of importance might be decided on November 8. The fact that such a possibility even appeared is, by itself, quite remarkable and it is yet another sign of how deep the systemic crisis of the Empire has become. As for the parasites who form the 1% who run this Empire, they are clearly in a panic mode, probably because they are much better informed than most of us of how truly catastrophic the situation really is.

A Hillary victory will not change any of it. It will only make it much, much more dangerous. With Trump, there is at least a possibility of a gradual, more or less organized withdrawal, a drawdown of sorts, a transition of the US from being a wannabe World Hegemon into a US as a major, but “normal”, country. Very much like Russia today, I hope.

With Hillary we can be sure the Empire will double down, continue to lie to itself and the rest of the planet, and deny it all, making the end inevitably very violent, possibly catastrophic. I would not put it past the “crazies in the basement” to prefer a nuclear holocaust (their favorite topic!) to a liberation of the US and the rest of the planet, from their demonic power. It is therefore our duty to prevent them from succeeding from destroying our planet.

.....but if you really want to lose some sleep tonight you can start thinking of all of those born again Christians/end of timers/nihilist jihadists for Christ sprinkled thruout the United State Strategic Command ( you know the guys that are way too close to the stuff that produces an earth shattering kaboom for any sane person's liking...and me too...)....so we have an officially certified "evil anti-Christ" in the east and too many whack-jobs way too close to their dream makers....nice, real nice....and oh, a blood-thirsty psychopath just this far away from cranking up tensions...

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....oh this is so sweet....file under you become what you hate...

It would be monumental, but Western states seem to be moving, ineluctably, towards banning Russian news media channels from satellite platforms and the internet. That outcome – albeit with enormous ethical and political implications – seems to be a logical conclusion of the increasingly frenzied transatlantic campaign to demonize Russia

.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/10/13/west-gunning-russian-media-ban.html

Cheers

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

I'm worried. Some commentators actively calling for a war against Russia.

In terms of WWIII I am more scared of Clinton than I ever was. Trump was just a distraction.

 

[blutto]

....this is so obvious even 2nd and 3rd rate new sources like The Guardian get it....

British and US military 'in command room' for Saudi strikes on Yemen

Saudi Arabian foreign minister also reveals UK and American officials have access to lists of targets, but do not choose them

The UK government has been put on notice that it is in breach of international law for allowing the export of British-made missiles and military equipment to Saudi Arabia that might have been used to kill civilians.

...

.....but but puke but...

The UK Ministry of Defence confirmed that British forces were in the operation room to provide training and advice “on best practice targeting techniques to help ensure continued compliance with international humanitarian law”, under a long-standing arrangement, but said they did not have an operational role

....and look, something for dj to get officially incensed, assuming of course he gets an ok from head office to produce a flood of tears, and do remember the Saudis are our very dear friends so he will have to very careful ...

Jennifer Gibson, from the anti-death penalty charity Reprieve, said: “The Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, hitting Médecins Sans Frontières clinics, a school for the blind and a wedding hall

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/british-us-military-in-command-room-saudi-strikes-yemen

Cheers

 

[Starstruck]

Re: Re:

I'm worried. Some commentators actively calling for a war against Russia.

I am too, but seriously, what are you afraid of ?

would you be afraidf if unlike lybia, iraq, syria, cuba, equador, afghanistan, iran and on and on, they couldnt hit back and hit very hard ? it's a serious question.

....and there is this....

Could it be that after losing Russia to their lies, the Neocons will now lose the United States to their apparently incurable propensity to rule by deception?

For years I used to dismiss the US Presidential elections like a joke, a fraud and an exercise in collective brainwashing. This time around, and for the first time, I think that there is a possibility, however slim, that something of importance might be decided on November 8. The fact that such a possibility even appeared is, by itself, quite remarkable and it is yet another sign of how deep the systemic crisis of the Empire has become. As for the parasites who form the 1% who run this Empire, they are clearly in a panic mode, probably because they are much better informed than most of us of how truly catastrophic the situation really is.

A Hillary victory will not change any of it. It will only make it much, much more dangerous. With Trump, there is at least a possibility of a gradual, more or less organized withdrawal, a drawdown of sorts, a transition of the US from being a wannabe World Hegemon into a US as a major, but “normal”, country. Very much like Russia today, I hope.

With Hillary we can be sure the Empire will double down, continue to lie to itself and the rest of the planet, and deny it all, making the end inevitably very violent, possibly catastrophic. I would not put it past the “crazies in the basement” to prefer a nuclear holocaust (their favorite topic!) to a liberation of the US and the rest of the planet, from their demonic power. It is therefore our duty to prevent them from succeeding from destroying our planet.

.....but if you really want to lose some sleep tonight you can start thinking of all of those born again Christians/end of timers/nihilist jihadists for Christ sprinkled thruout the United State Strategic Command ( you know the guys that are way too close to the stuff that produces an earth shattering kaboom for any sane person's liking...and me too...)....so we have an officially certified "evil anti-Christ" in the east and too many whack-jobs way too close to their dream makers....nice, real nice....and oh, a blood-thirsty psychopath just this far away from cranking up tensions...

Cheers

There's also the possibility that Trump has a bad hair day and pulls the plug. I agree about Hillbilly though.

Just think about the rapture as evolution. Hopium all the same.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

....this is so obvious even 2nd and 3rd rate new sources like The Guardian get it....

British and US military 'in command room' for Saudi strikes on Yemen

Saudi Arabian foreign minister also reveals UK and American officials have access to lists of targets, but do not choose them

The UK government has been put on notice that it is in breach of international law for allowing the export of British-made missiles and military equipment to Saudi Arabia that might have been used to kill civilians.

...

.....but but puke but...

The UK Ministry of Defence confirmed that British forces were in the operation room to provide training and advice “on best practice targeting techniques to help ensure continued compliance with international humanitarian law”, under a long-standing arrangement, but said they did not have an operational role

....and look, something for dj to get officially incensed, assuming of course he gets an ok from head office to produce a flood of tears, and do remember the Saudis are our very dear friends so he will have to very careful ...

Jennifer Gibson, from the anti-death penalty charity Reprieve, said: “The Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, hitting Médecins Sans Frontières clinics, a school for the blind and a wedding hall

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/british-us-military-in-command-room-saudi-strikes-yemen

Cheers

Yet you give Russia, also with Russian military in various 'command centers' in Syria a pass. How many Russian cluster bombs have been used against civilians/hospitals in Aleppo? . curious of course it's not evil US/UK so you don't really want to mention it.

Cheers.

 

[Starstruck]

....this is so obvious even 2nd and 3rd rate new sources like The Guardian get it....

British and US military 'in command room' for Saudi strikes on Yemen

Saudi Arabian foreign minister also reveals UK and American officials have access to lists of targets, but do not choose them

The UK government has been put on notice that it is in breach of international law for allowing the export of British-made missiles and military equipment to Saudi Arabia that might have been used to kill civilians.

...

.....but but puke but...

The UK Ministry of Defence confirmed that British forces were in the operation room to provide training and advice “on best practice targeting techniques to help ensure continued compliance with international humanitarian law”, under a long-standing arrangement, but said they did not have an operational role

....and look, something for dj to get officially incensed, assuming of course he gets an ok from head office to produce a flood of tears, and do remember the Saudis are our very dear friends so he will have to very careful ...

Jennifer Gibson, from the anti-death penalty charity Reprieve, said: “The Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, hitting Médecins Sans Frontières clinics, a school for the blind and a wedding hall

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/british-us-military-in-command-room-saudi-strikes-yemen

Cheers

Yet you give Russia, also with Russian military in various 'command centers' in Syria a pass. How many Russian cluster bombs have been used against civilians/hospitals in Aleppo? . curious of course it's not evil US/UK so you don't really want to mention it.

Cheers.

Again, the USA is less than exceptional. The USA went completely dark after 2001. Maybe "the west" should stop supporting jihadists in their utopian drive for hegemony over the globe. Just a thought. When the Russians *actually* invade another country I'll protest.

American kool-aid is delicious but we're on earth, not in space. If we were viewing it all from space it's ludicrous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

 

[BullsFan22]

....this is so obvious even 2nd and 3rd rate new sources like The Guardian get it....

British and US military 'in command room' for Saudi strikes on Yemen

Saudi Arabian foreign minister also reveals UK and American officials have access to lists of targets, but do not choose them

The UK government has been put on notice that it is in breach of international law for allowing the export of British-made missiles and military equipment to Saudi Arabia that might have been used to kill civilians.

...

.....but but puke but...

The UK Ministry of Defence confirmed that British forces were in the operation room to provide training and advice “on best practice targeting techniques to help ensure continued compliance with international humanitarian law”, under a long-standing arrangement, but said they did not have an operational role

....and look, something for dj to get officially incensed, assuming of course he gets an ok from head office to produce a flood of tears, and do remember the Saudis are our very dear friends so he will have to very careful ...

Jennifer Gibson, from the anti-death penalty charity Reprieve, said: “The Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, hitting Médecins Sans Frontières clinics, a school for the blind and a wedding hall

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/british-us-military-in-command-room-saudi-strikes-yemen

Cheers

Yet you give Russia, also with Russian military in various 'command centers' in Syria a pass. How many Russian cluster bombs have been used against civilians/hospitals in Aleppo? . curious of course it's not evil US/UK so you don't really want to mention it.

Cheers.

Again, the USA is less than exceptional. The USA went completely dark after 2001. Maybe "the west" should stop supporting jihadists in their utopian drive for hegemony over the globe. Just a thought. When the Russians *actually* invade another country I'll protest.

American kool-aid is delicious but we're on earth, not in space. If we were viewing it all from space it's ludicrous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

But, but, the Russians invaded Ukraine!!!

 

[blutto]

....this is so obvious even 2nd and 3rd rate new sources like The Guardian get it....

British and US military 'in command room' for Saudi strikes on Yemen

Saudi Arabian foreign minister also reveals UK and American officials have access to lists of targets, but do not choose them

The UK government has been put on notice that it is in breach of international law for allowing the export of British-made missiles and military equipment to Saudi Arabia that might have been used to kill civilians.

...

.....but but puke but...

The UK Ministry of Defence confirmed that British forces were in the operation room to provide training and advice “on best practice targeting techniques to help ensure continued compliance with international humanitarian law”, under a long-standing arrangement, but said they did not have an operational role

....and look, something for dj to get officially incensed, assuming of course he gets an ok from head office to produce a flood of tears, and do remember the Saudis are our very dear friends so he will have to very careful ...

Jennifer Gibson, from the anti-death penalty charity Reprieve, said: “The Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen has killed thousands of civilians, hitting Médecins Sans Frontières clinics, a school for the blind and a wedding hall

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/15/british-us-military-in-command-room-saudi-strikes-yemen

Cheers

Yet you give Russia, also with Russian military in various 'command centers' in Syria a pass. How many Russian cluster bombs have been used against civilians/hospitals in Aleppo? . curious of course it's not evil US/UK so you don't really want to mention it.

Cheers.

Again, the USA is less than exceptional. The USA went completely dark after 2001. Maybe "the west" should stop supporting jihadists in their utopian drive for hegemony over the globe. Just a thought. When the Russians *actually* invade another country I'll protest.

American kool-aid is delicious but we're on earth, not in space. If we were viewing it all from space it's ludicrous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g

But, but, the Russians invaded Ukraine!!!

....and I believe they recently conquered Europe too....and given the newspaper reports are a nasty piece of work they are....and led by an genuine anti-Christ....was reading an article in the NYT and apparently its just a matter of time before they invade us....we are doomed.....

Cheers