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[Alpe d'Huez]

i think i have made it pretty clear that i will not vote for obama.

lol!

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[redtreviso]

I think I have made it pretty clear that I will not vote for Obama.

That Baton Rouge auxiliary secret association would disown you.

 

[redtreviso]

You are funny. You wet your pants over Fox news and post a bunch of crap from moveon.org.

Since you are reacting (typical)... these corporations paid no taxes last year (btw, legal or illegal??) and paid their CEO's (board approved) whatever they paid them.

Tell me, did these CEO's also avoid paying income taxes? The correct answer is no. Did these CEO's write the tax code? Nope. Doing anything illegal? Uh, no.

Is this about the left's all out class warfare? Yes sir. BTW, How many jobs are provided by the companies listed above?

I particularly like how Moveon goes after GE and Immelt (and I'm no fan of Immelt). How ironic is this? Didn't they get the memo? GE has made huge investments in green technology, particularly in 2009 and 2010. They reduced their taxable income by making investments in technology to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. This must really leave someone like you torn (that is if you were even aware of this, which I doubt).

It didn't say how much those CEO cheated on their personal taxes..How many stock options they executed through a numbered account in switzerland etc.

Oh so they provided some jobs.. More than they eliminated or outsourced??.. Anything goes if they are a "job" provider? Not unlike when their kids get caught with a kilo of cocaine???

Exxon is advertising their greenness these days.. pffft.

MoveOn.. I suspect you are a paid boilermaker for Cato or some other fascist org.. Get an extra 25 cents for taking exception to anything from moveon?

 

[Anonymous]

It didn't say how much those CEO cheated on their personal taxes..How many stock options they executed through a numbered account in switzerland etc.

Oh so they provided some jobs.. More than they eliminated or outsourced??.. Anything goes if they are a "job" provider? Not unlike when their kids get caught with a kilo of cocaine???

Exxon is advertising their greenness these days.. pffft.

MoveOn.. I suspect you are a paid boilermaker for Cato or some other fascist org.. Get an extra 25 cents for taking exception to anything from moveon?

Nope. I do get an extra $1.50 for pointing out obvious hypocrisy from Texas liberals, though... so thanks for that. Cool part is I get paid under the table.

I'd go into a little corporate tax strategy but I'm sure it wouldn't matter to you so I'll just skip that part.

 

[redtreviso]

Nope. I do get an extra $1.50 for pointing out obvious hypocrisy from Texas liberals, though... so thanks for that. Cool part is I get paid under the table.

I'd go into a little corporate tax strategy but I'm sure it wouldn't matter to you so I'll just skip that part.

You don't care about that.. you just throw up a smokescreen saying whatever corporations do is justified in the name of "something"... Because they are all that is good and righteous ..Their motives for existence are the ideal embodiment of providing the betterment of America and mankind. Their employees are not paid to help them make money but should just be eternally grateful to the savior CEO at the head of their blessed church of Exxon etc. for giving them something to do. Feel free to break into a spontaneous rendition of the Pledge of Allegiance at any time..Don't forgot to YELL out the UNDER GOD part..

 

[ChrisE]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44341803/ns/business-us_business/

I almost shyt my britches when I read this today. I think I will go buy a lottery ticket tonight, and watch out for the lightning strikes on the way to the store.

 

[redtreviso]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44341803/ns/business-us_business/

I almost shyt my britches when I read this today. I think I will go buy a lottery ticket tonight, and watch out for the lightning strikes on the way to the store.

Awwww Poor put upon AT&T and Deutsche Bundespost Telekom...<whiney voice> They're just trying their very best help PEOPLE ,,, but but but the government wahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa oh god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want my country back........ awahhhha wahhhhhhhhaaaa

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Read a clip earlier (sorry, no link) saying the consumer "liberals" want the lawsuit, but a lot of unions are okay with the merger.

Maybe we'll all get lucky and AT&T will buy Sprint and Verizon too, and we'll go back to the 60's and 70s when they owned and ran everything extremely well, were super successful, and had a strong union of well paid employees (including full pension packages, excellent health care and such).

 

[Semper Fidelis]

That Baton Rouge auxiliary secret association would disown you.

red stick / baton rouge I do not get it? Maybe Denahm Springs or Abita Springs?

 

[redtreviso]

red stick / baton rouge I do not get it? Maybe Denahm Springs or Abita Springs?

Six Circle Gherk Knights of Denham Springs,,,perhaps

 

[rhubroma]

You don't care about that.. you just throw up a smokescreen saying whatever corporations do is justified in the name of "something"... Because they are all that is good and righteous ..Their motives for existence are the ideal embodiment of providing the betterment of America and mankind. Their employees are not paid to help them make money but should just be eternally grateful to the savior CEO at the head of their blessed church of Exxon etc. for giving them something to do. Feel free to break into a spontaneous rendition of the Pledge of Allegiance at any time..Don't forgot to YELL out the UNDER GOD part..

That's because he's blinded by ideology and can't think otherwise.

We all know how the corporate world (along with their cronnies the politicians) is screwing the nation with its dreadful business practices, but Scott doesn't care in the least about this, because, being among what is known as the conservative small entrepreneurial, petit bourgeois class these entities and the men who lead them are his heroes.

Whatever they do should be admired, if not venerated, is thus cause to fanfare and greatest excitement. It is his religion.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I don't actually think that's the case when it comes to corporations. To be honest I think he's simply removed enough from the hardship that faces most workers, coupled with an honest belief in uncorrupted capitalism, that shapes his perception.

Hence, you see, and focus on what the bad corporations (and their ilk) are getting away with, and find that percentage high enough that it's one of the root causes hurting the workforce and average person to the point of being systemic, thus requiring system wide change.

I think he sees perhaps a more optimistic view. That being that some corporations are corrupt, and the solution (beyond justice to the offenders) for society is a more streamlined, less corrupt tax code.

You see the government as a potential equalizer, and employer, which despite aspects of corruption (of which offenders should receive justice) is at least a partial solution.

He sees the government as a hindrance, and corruption within it so engrossing that the solution stretches to a very limited government that offers very little in the way of employment.

Who's right? Who's wrong? You tell me.

 

[redtreviso]

I don't actually think that's the case when it comes to corporations. To be honest I think he's simply removed enough from the hardship that faces most workers, coupled with an honest belief in uncorrupted capitalism, that shapes his perception.

Hence, you see, and focus on what the bad corporations (and their ilk) are getting away with, and find that percentage high enough that it's one of the root causes hurting the workforce and average person to the point of being systemic, thus requiring system wide change.

I think he sees perhaps a more optimistic view. That being that some corporations are corrupt, and the solution (beyond justice to the offenders) for society is a more streamlined, less corrupt tax code.

You see the government as a potential equalizer, and employer, which despite aspects of corruption (of which offenders should receive justice) is at least a partial solution.

He sees the government as a hindrance, and corruption within it so engrossing that the solution stretches to a very limited government that offers very little in the way of employment.

Who's right? Who's wrong? You tell me.

He is wrong ..Ayn is wrong.....nice of you to make him sound reasonable though.

If it was up to Lockheed and Haliburton we'd be in world war 3... all tax revenue would go to them.. Wall Street would give them a buy

 

[redtreviso]

Why do Conservatives get a pass?

"" Perry’s ideas range from wrongheaded to terrifying....The subtitle of Perry’s book is “Our Fight to Save America from Washington.” Reading it summons the image of another, urgent fight: saving America from Rick Perry.

Here's what gets me. Perry's views are getting denounced by all the usual lefty suspects, but not much of anywhere else. And the reason for this is something very odd: in modern America, conservatives are largely given a pass for saying crazy things. They're just not taken seriously, in a boys-will-be-boys kind of way. It's almost like everyone accepts this kind of stuff as a kind of religious liturgy, repeated regularly with no real meaning behind it. They're just the words you use to prove to the base that you're really one of them.

Why is this? I'm not quite sure what the left-wing equivalent of this would be, but it would be something along the lines of Hillary Clinton writing a book that proposed repealing the 2nd Amendment and adding one that banned hate speech; limiting defense spending to 2% of GDP; raising the top marginal tax rate back to 90% on millionaires and 100% on anything above, say, $10 million; instituting British-style national healthcare; and spending half a trillion dollars on new programs for universal preschool, two-year paid leaves for new parents, and an increase in the minimum wage to $15 per hour. But in real life, Dennis Kucinich wouldn't support a platform like this, let alone a frontrunner for the presidential nomination. And if one did, they'd be instantly tarred as an insane nutball and would never see the business end of a TV camera again.

But when Republicans say the mirror image of stuff like this, it just gets a shrug. Sure, Perry apparently wants to roll things back to about 1900 or so. But hey — it's just a way of firing up the troops. Nothing to be taken seriously.""

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-do-conservatives-get-pass

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Six Circle Gherk Knights of Denham Springs,,,perhaps

Oh ok. I am glad you caught that I misspelled Denham Springs. (Did you hear that **** cheney has a new book? “in my timezz”) Should have titled it “wasting our timezz”

Hey they have a huge Bass Pro Shop next to I12. I bought a AR15 from there. I need it for all the swine (aka feral hogs) in my area.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Why do Conservatives get a pass?

"" Perry’s ideas range from wrongheaded to terrifying....The subtitle of Perry’s book is “Our Fight to Save America from Washington.” Reading it summons the image of another, urgent fight: saving America from Rick Perry.

Here's what gets me. Perry's views are getting denounced by all the usual lefty suspects, but not much of anywhere else. And the reason for this is something very odd: in modern America, conservatives are largely given a pass for saying crazy things. They're just not taken seriously, in a boys-will-be-boys kind of way. It's almost like everyone accepts this kind of stuff as a kind of religious liturgy, repeated regularly with no real meaning behind it. They're just the words you use to prove to the base that you're really one of them.

Why is this? I'm not quite sure what the left-wing equivalent of this would be, but it would be something along the lines of Hillary Clinton writing a book that proposed repealing the 2nd Amendment and adding one that banned hate speech; limiting defense spending to 2% of GDP; raising the top marginal tax rate back to 90% on millionaires and 100% on anything above, say, $10 million; instituting British-style national healthcare; and spending half a trillion dollars on new programs for universal preschool, two-year paid leaves for new parents, and an increase in the minimum wage to $15 per hour. But in real life, Dennis Kucinich wouldn't support a platform like this, let alone a frontrunner for the presidential nomination. And if one did, they'd be instantly tarred as an insane nutball and would never see the business end of a TV camera again.

But when Republicans say the mirror image of stuff like this, it just gets a shrug. Sure, Perry apparently wants to roll things back to about 1900 or so. But hey — it's just a way of firing up the troops. Nothing to be taken seriously.""

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-do-conservatives-get-pass

I can't wait to cast my vote for Guvnah Perry.

 

[Anonymous]

Why do Conservatives get a pass?

"" Perry’s ideas range from wrongheaded to terrifying....The subtitle of Perry’s book is “Our Fight to Save America from Washington.” Reading it summons the image of another, urgent fight: saving America from Rick Perry.

Here's what gets me. Perry's views are getting denounced by all the usual lefty suspects, but not much of anywhere else. And the reason for this is something very odd: in modern America, conservatives are largely given a pass for saying crazy things. They're just not taken seriously, in a boys-will-be-boys kind of way. It's almost like everyone accepts this kind of stuff as a kind of religious liturgy, repeated regularly with no real meaning behind it. They're just the words you use to prove to the base that you're really one of them.

Why is this? I'm not quite sure what the left-wing equivalent of this would be, but it would be something along the lines of Hillary Clinton writing a book that proposed repealing the 2nd Amendment and adding one that banned hate speech; limiting defense spending to 2% of GDP; raising the top marginal tax rate back to 90% on millionaires and 100% on anything above, say, $10 million; instituting British-style national healthcare; and spending half a trillion dollars on new programs for universal preschool, two-year paid leaves for new parents, and an increase in the minimum wage to $15 per hour. But in real life, Dennis Kucinich wouldn't support a platform like this, let alone a frontrunner for the presidential nomination. And if one did, they'd be instantly tarred as an insane nutball and would never see the business end of a TV camera again.

But when Republicans say the mirror image of stuff like this, it just gets a shrug. Sure, Perry apparently wants to roll things back to about 1900 or so. But hey — it's just a way of firing up the troops. Nothing to be taken seriously.""

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-do-conservatives-get-pass

When any administration fails miserably it will give rise to something like what you are seeing with Perry. The left went out of their mind when Reagan came to power too. The good news is Perry will not have the same appeal as he does now (as the campaigning/debates progress). The bad news (for you) is the Repub nominee will either be Perry, Romney or possibly Bachmann... and it does not matter which one of these three gets nominated because there is no way, short of a huge economic turn-around, Obama gets re-elected. Of the three, I think Romney is the most capable of working with both parties to get a reasonable platform for economic activity. Also, by some miracle, if Obama gets re-elected he will have neither the house or the senate so he will become more centrist or he will get absolutely none of whatever remains of his agenda through.

Most people understand that a strong private enterprise is the very mechanism that allows for a public saftey net. Without it, there is nothing public. So continuing to rail against everything business is just demonstrating you have not figured this part out just yet.

I'll tell you this, if you had your way and had Obama lurched farther to the left to appease your wing of the democratic party it would have given rise to someone right of Perry.

 

[redtreviso]

When any administration fails miserably it will give rise to something like what you are seeing with Perry. The left went out of their mind when Reagan came to power too. The good news is Perry will not have the same appeal as he does now (as the campaigning/debates progress). The bad news (for you) is the Repub nominee will either be Perry, Romney or possibly Bachmann... and it does not matter which one of these three gets nominated because there is no way, short of a huge economic turn-around, Obama gets re-elected. Of the three, I think Romney is the most capable of working with both parties to get a reasonable platform for economic activity. Also, by some miracle, if Obama gets re-elected he will have neither the house or the senate so he will become more centrist or he will get absolutely none of whatever remains of his agenda through.

Most people understand that a strong private enterprise is the very mechanism that allows for a public saftey net. Without it, there is nothing public. So continuing to rail against everything business is just demonstrating you have not figured this part out just yet.

I'll tell you this, if you had your way and had Obama lurched farther to the left to appease your wing of the democratic party it would have given rise to someone right of Perry.

Economic activity where? Private enterprise where? China? GOP is the party of outsourcing.. All but the board of directors and their estate managers.
I don't rail against business nor does anyone not republican do this.. This is the same as you must be a republican if you are WHITE. Your kind think any obstacles in business or life in general are the product of NOT REPUBLICAN.
Your kind's Rand fantasies and meggadittoing are the same reasoning that floats up from (impaired establishment seating devices)

 

[Anonymous]

I don't rail against business nor does anyone not republican do this.. This is the same as you must be a republican if you are WHITE.

Weak, even by your (lack of) standard.

 

[redtreviso]

Weak, even by your (lack of) standard.

No it's not.. They'd have you believe if you work you should be a Republican..Southern strategy stupidized..Anyone not republican is buying T-bones and Ice Cream Birthday cakes with food stamps you begrudgingly provide.. etc etc..You think it would be unusual if you asked any republican why they are a republican and they replied in a whiny pizzy child voice.. cuz I WORK?..and they think that is unique and exclusive to being a republican. Perhaps acting like a victim is more their unique and exclusive existence.

 

[redtreviso]

Gabby Giffords Replica Glock Raffle.. with signed target poster from Sarah Palin..

""While the Federal Election Commission meets today to sign off on a request from Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to use campaign money for security upgrades, there is a report that Republicans in her Arizona district are raffling off the same brand of gun that wounded the Democrat.

The Pima County Republican Party is asking for $10 per ticket for a chance to win a Glock 23, according to the Huffington Post.

The Glock 23 is a version of the Glock 19, which was used in the Jan. 8 shooting rampage that left six people dead and wounded 13 others. Giffords, who was shot in the head, was meeting with constituents at a Tucson grocery store.
""
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Sen. Coburn (R-OK): "Good thing I can't pack a gun on Senate floor"

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Gabby Giffords Replica Glock Raffle.. with signed target poster from Sarah Palin..

""While the Federal Election Commission meets today to sign off on a request from Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to use campaign money for security upgrades, there is a report that Republicans in her Arizona district are raffling off the same brand of gun that wounded the Democrat.

The Pima County Republican Party is asking for $10 per ticket for a chance to win a Glock 23, according to the Huffington Post.

The Glock 23 is a version of the Glock 19, which was used in the Jan. 8 shooting rampage that left six people dead and wounded 13 others. Giffords, who was shot in the head, was meeting with constituents at a Tucson grocery store.
""
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Sen. Coburn (R-OK): "Good thing I can't pack a gun on Senate floor"

Those people have a lack of morals for doing that. (in my opinion)


I think your claim about the signed target poster is not correct.

Azcentral.com does not say anything about the poster just the gun.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/09/01/20110901arizona-gop-gun-raffle-politico.html

Also the Huffington post tries to make it out that it is same weapon. In fact the Glock23 uses more powerful ammunition. I do not like Glock I like the Berretta or Colt ….I am a little bit old school.

 

[TRDean]

Those people have a lack of morals for doing that. (in my opinion)


I think your claim about the signed target poster is not correct.

Azcentral.com does not say anything about the poster just the gun.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/09/01/20110901arizona-gop-gun-raffle-politico.html

Also the Huffington post tries to make it out that it is same weapon. In fact the Glock23 uses more powerful ammunition. I do not like Glock I like the Berretta or Colt ….I am a little bit old school.

I don't like Glock either...I'm a Springfield fan...

But the above is in extremely poor taste no doubt.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I don't like Glock either...I'm a Springfield fan...

But the above is in extremely poor taste no doubt.

Springfield have through the years made fine high quality weapons. I should have made mention of them.

These republicans in Arizona are an example of stupidity in action. There are ways to make political statements but this is not one of them.

 

[TRDean]

Springfield have through the years made fine high quality weapons. I should have made mention of them.

These republicans in Arizona are an example of stupidity in action. There are ways to make political statements but this is not one of them.

I agree...for the life of me I can't understand what they are thinking. It disgusts me to know that they are doing this...