Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[CyclistAbi]

Road well with his former team today. I guess the game is on, between Bora and Lisa, looking forward to that.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Cian vs Del Toro vs Lipowitz

Lipowitz is 3 years older.

 

[Didinho]

He’s focusing on the last week. Did climb really good yesterday, if he can keep this up I see him finishing on the podium. Worked hard on his TT (but expect to see results in 1-2y for optimal position). And in a GT it’s more about condition/recuperation after several days so hopefully he doesn’t lose that much time this Giro.

 

[Berniece]

He’s focusing on the last week. Did climb really good yesterday, if he can keep this up I see him finishing on the podium. Worked hard on his TT (but expect to see results in 1-2y for optimal position). And in a GT it’s more about condition/recuperation after several days so hopefully he doesn’t lose that much time this Giro.

Really looking forward to his TT, as in I want to see how much he improved. I still expect him to lose 1-2min to Thomas

 

[SafeBet]

One minute to Thomas in a 40 km TT would be a massive result for him considering his recent performances.

I saw him yesterday at the start and he looked in good spirits (as he always does during interviews).
He's taller than I imagined, possibly even taller than the suggested height I saw online, 1.85? That or I'm getting shorter due to age.

 

[velaso montador]

Del Toro is clearly much zappier than Uijtdebroeks, who is a diesel. Del Toro will have an easier time winning stages and one week stage races. But Del Toro has not raced a GT yet. If he does that with succes as well, than i'd go with Del Toro. But Uijtdebroeks has proven to be very consistent in stage races and has already finished a GT in the top 10. So imho, it's too early to tell, you'll at least have to wait until the Vuelta to make an assessment.

Agree with everything here.

Also that its way to early to tell ofc but thats the thing if I was to invest in one of em the ceiling maby indeed higher in del toro? but at the same time hes unproven in GT so more risk.

Also their so young suddenly someone can rocket their developement sky high and the other stay still for so many reason its to early to tell.

But nevertheless exciting riders both to follow and see how they do, big big talent both as of now thats the only thing which is sure. Seems to be level headed aswell which is a good sign.

 

[Filippo_3467]

Really looking forward to his TT, as in I want to see how much he improved. I still expect him to lose 1-2min to Thomas

I think 3-4 miutes should be expected alone in the first TT. Sure theres a lot of climbing in the end but there are also over 30 flat TT kms which will probably kill his climbing if his TT is as bad as it looked at the start of the season. It's just pure karma that Jumbo is giving him the leadership at the GT where the TT alone could cost him a top result.

 

[AmRacer]

I think 3-4 miutes should be expected alone in the first TT. Sure theres a lot of climbing in the end but there are also over 30 flat TT kms which will probably kill his climbing if his TT is as bad as it looked at the start of the season. It's just pure karma that Jumbo is giving him the leadership at the GT where the TT alone could cost him a top result.

Jumbo?

 

[Berniece]

I think 3-4 miutes should be expected alone in the first TT. Sure theres a lot of climbing in the end but there are also over 30 flat TT kms which will probably kill his climbing if his TT is as bad as it looked at the start of the season. It's just pure karma that Jumbo is giving him the leadership at the GT where the TT alone could cost him a top result.

Doubt it’ll be that much

 

[Filippo_3467]

Doubt it’ll be that much

We'll see. Maybe in top shape and with better equipment (haha) he can be better. But loosing 1 minute in a flat TT in Tirreno and also over a minute in other shorter WT TTs last year wouldn't give me confidence.

 

[Didinho]

We'll see. Maybe in top shape and with better equipment (haha) he can be better. But loosing 1 minute in a flat TT in Tirreno and also over a minute in other shorter WT TTs last year wouldn't give me confidence.

Wasn’t it raining really hard in Tirreno? He will be better than last year I suppose. Hope he can damage the losses.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Hope he can damage the losses.

That sounds quite aggressive.

 

[peterfin]

I can't see him losing much more than about 2 minutes to Thomas in the first TT. He lost 2:27 to an outstanding WVA in the 42 km NC TT last year. In the 26 km Vuelta TT he lost only 35s to Thomas (but not riding for GC at that point) and 1:17 to Vingegaard (a better comparison). If he loses only 1 to 1:30 to Thomas it will be a very good TT for Cian. That's probably what he needs to target.

 

[Didinho]

That sounds quite aggressive.

Not my native language. Was my first thought of the expression.

Hope he doesn’t lose as much time as we’re all thinking.

 

[Netserk]

Not my native language. Was my first thought of the expression.

Hope he doesn’t lose as much time as we’re all thinking.

Cut his losses or limit the damage may be the idioms that were on the tip of your tongue.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Not to sound too aggressive, but I hope he can damage the losers.

Next time there's trouble on a flat stage, Laporte and Kooij should probably not be up the road.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1787599104324890710

View: https://twitter.com/RadioPedalEC/status/1787599104324890710

 

[CyclistAbi]

Next time he should just say it's Super Man.

 

[velaso montador]

I can't see him losing much more than about 2 minutes to Thomas in the first TT. He lost 2:27 to an outstanding WVA in the 42 km NC TT last year. In the 26 km Vuelta TT he lost only 35s to Thomas (but not riding for GC at that point) and 1:17 to Vingegaard (a better comparison). If he loses only 1 to 1:30 to Thomas it will be a very good TT for Cian. That's probably what he needs to target.

Thomas is nice benchmark in TT to see where hes at now indeed gonne be intesting to see him there. Him and Del Toro gonne be interesting to follow em both. When Ayuso goes to Moviestar i suspect both Del Toro and Cian will catch up to him faster than most ppl think.

 

[Berniece]

Thomas is nice benchmark in TT to see where hes at now indeed gonne be intesting to see him there. Him and Del Toro gonne be interesting to follow em both. When Ayuso goes to Moviestar i suspect both Del Toro and Cian will catch up to him faster than most ppl think.

I have a feeling Cian will already be catched up this year if he finishes on the podium this Giro. And when Ayuso goes to Movistar he'll be surpassed by both of them probably.

Del Toro has another year to prove himself, he's younger. Is he going to the Vuelta? Hopefully he doesn't have to work for Almeida or Ayuso there.

 

[velaso montador]

I have a feeling Cian will already be catched up this year if he finishes on the podium this Giro. And when Ayuso goes to Movistar he'll be surpassed by both of them probably.

Del Toro has another year to prove himself, he's younger. Is he going to the Vuelta? Hopefully he doesn't have to work for Almeida or Ayuso there.

Cian is more proven indeed but I have this gut feeling Del Toro ceiling is higher(i fcourse cant know this at all) but ofcoures hes unproven in GT perspective so if this was a stock the risk would be higher than in Cian indeed.

Nevertheless their both so young and many other factors can change and flip this going forward but indeed.

I personally dont see Cian podium the giro but if he should do thats impressive . The field in the Giro also is not at the same level of vuelta last year for instance. I do think they both need more than 1 year to catch up to Ayuso personally for me but if switch to Moviestar happen he better wake up early sorta thing indeed


Anyway exciting times ahead cycling is in a era where its hard not to like what you see. The approact of the teams regarding youths is definitely a right move and another step in evolusion of approaching things and its barring fruits imo.

 

[Berniece]

I personally dont see Cian podium the giro but if he should do thats impressive . The field in the Giro also is not at the same level of vuelta last year for instance. I do think they both need more than 1 year to catch up to Ayuso personally for me but if switch to Moviestar happen he better wake up early sorta thing indeed

In the beginning of the Giro I expected him to ride top 10, but due to some riders already losing a lot of time I see top 5 as the new target, and podium is what I hope he achieves.

 

[search]

I kinda like that his Giro interviews always end with "Thank you!" - "Please!"

View: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8y9e6w


I guess reason is that (same as in German) the translation of "please" has two meanings in Dutch?

 

[Lequack]

I kinda like that his Giro interviews always end with "Thank you!" - "Please!"

View: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8y9e6w


I guess reason is that (same as in German) the translation of "please" has two meanings in Dutch?

He seems so happy. I like his energy.

 

[velaso montador]

He did well today, was pleased to see that. My tv in the boat went dark right when he had to swap cycle I dont know if thats a omen/sign or anything of what to come in the coming years?