Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Elos Anjos]

Wonderful.

Even though this is the internet, a bit of intellectual honesty is appreciated.

Namely that when discussing Roglic's Giro and Vuelta(s) with Remco or Vingo, his falls should be taken into account regarding his performances.

Just as we are reminded again again that Vingo was having a lack of (love) something to hold his own during Vuelta and thus underperformed in the ITT...so willfully in a near future some users can contextualize their precious, precious w/kg ramblings and see that they are not objective assessments that confirm their prejudices, but always a reading of some set of circumstances that allow for interpretation.

 

[foxbat]

meanwhile, pogacar thread = 487 pages
vingegaard thread = 172 pages

 

[SHAD0W93]

meanwhile, pogacar thread = 487 pages
vingegaard thread = 172 pages

Vingegaard’s fans like posting in Pogacar’s thread more.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Vingegaard’s fans like posting in Pogacar’s thread more.

The opposite is also true.

I would include two more factors for the difference in page numbers;

1) many Vingo fans alienate other users.
2) Vingo has the charisma of a a door.

 

[Extinction]

It's not that watts per kilos is debatable, either it is sufficient or it is not, but then a miriad of uncontrolable factors come in and these can't be programed scientifically. Then it becomes a question of those who have control convincing the rider that he is the chosen one.

 

[yaf]

Pog changed his plans at the last minute because Urska went with the women's team to the Sierra Nevada, he has no one to cook at home, no company, Mohoric, Mathews, Formolo are all at the races, so at the last minute it was decided to do the altitude because of the company

Even mathews &,formolo are his chefs 🤣 u got me😅😅

 

[Brullnux]

The opposite is also true.

I would include two more factors for the difference in page numbers;

1) many Vingo fans alienate other users.
2) Vingo has the charisma of a a door.

3) Pogacar competes in many more important races, with a wider range, than Vingegaard.

 

[Oldermanish]

Learning how to accept getting bored will be key during the Giro as he could win 10 stages if he raced like he was in PCM.

It would be wise to smash the first week and build a big lead that then sets up the rest to fight among each other for the podium as then the other teams will police breaks and spare UAE a lot of the donkey work controlling the race thus keeping key domestique fresher for the Tour and the double attempt where he will need the full strength of his lieutenants.

That's the dilemma for an early lead. The other major contenders, most of whom have not been in Pog's field this year; have as strong or stronger domestique corps. Technical stages are hard to control so, as you said; even in the best-planned situations he will need all hands.

 

[mou]

if you can troll why can't I, otherwise Mou is the god of trolling

 

[mou]

If you post something useful on this forum, the snakes will attack you, but the snakes don't know that I'm their mongoos

 

[Offline]

Tadej Pogacar heads to altitude to reach high peak for Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro d'Italia

Three weeks in Sierra Nevada follow Slovenian's commanding spring performances

www.cyclingnews.com

Pog changed his plans at the last minute because Urska went with the women's team to the Sierra Nevada, he has no one to cook at home, no company, Mohoric, Mathews, Formolo are all at the races, so at the last minute it was decided to do the altitude because of the company

Lol that sounds so unprofessional

 

[Salvarani]

Tadej Pogacar heads to altitude to reach high peak for Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro d'Italia

Three weeks in Sierra Nevada follow Slovenian's commanding spring performances

www.cyclingnews.com

Lol that sounds so unprofessional

I don’t think so.

You are reading it as a joke, it was written that way on purpose I am assuming, but it actually make sense.

A part of performing well is have great social and personal life for many. Pretty sure he will be better being close to his partner rather than spending three weeks apart.

You have to remember they spend many days apart as is.

This solution just make sense for everyone involved.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Pogacar is just tapping into Vingegaard’s super power, love.

 

[bNator]

One thing we can agree on is that Pogacar is the most likely the winner of the Giro but it's not going to be with minimal effort saving energy like you're assuming.

The fact of the matter is that Pogacar has never ridden defensively or economically, he is not that type of rider. There are many stages up for grabs and you can bet your money that he is not passing them up.

I literally said I would do just that, yesterday 😁 Still - theoretically, it should be a training ride if he’s smart…

 

[AmRacer]

Unlike his Tour de France rivals Jonas Vingegaard (Visma-Lease a Bike), Primož Roglič (Bora-Hansgrohe) and Remco Evenepoel (Soudal-Quickstep), it will be Pogačar's first intensive altitude camp of the season.

But Remco hasn't been at altitude camp?

 

[Berniece]

Tadej Pogacar heads to altitude to reach high peak for Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro d'Italia

Three weeks in Sierra Nevada follow Slovenian's commanding spring performances

www.cyclingnews.com

Lol that sounds so unprofessional

Because it’s not true

 

[kn0s]

I don’t think so.

You are reading it as a joke, it was written that way on purpose I am assuming, but it actually make sense.

A part of performing well is have great social and personal life for many. Pretty sure he will be better being close to his partner rather than spending three weeks apart.

You have to remember they spend many days apart as is.

This solution just make sense for everyone involved.

Your explanation doesn't make it sound more professional. It's not that it doesn't make sense to go, it's that they supposedly didn't know her's or he's scheduled and pulled this in the last second. Now it's UAE so nothing is impossible off cause.

 

[Ulle97]

As we are now in the middle of classics season, I look at Pogacar's current ability and it seems like there is no stopping him.


If we look at the all time record for monument victories, the great Eddy Merckx holds the record with 19. Tadej won't break that I don't think but let's have a prediction of how many monuments he'll amass in his career.

For context, the top of the list looks like this:
1. Merckx- 19
2. De Vlaeminck- 11
3. Kelly- 9
3. Girardengo- 9
3. Coppi- 9

Can Tadej crack the top 5?
He's on 5 wins atm.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

As we are now in the middle of classics season, I look at Pogacar's current ability and it seems like there is no stopping him.


If we look at the all time record for monument victories, the great Eddy Merckx holds the record with 19. Tadej won't break that I don't think but let's have a prediction of how many monuments he'll amass in his career.

For context, the top of the list looks like this:
1. Merckx- 19
2. De Vlaeminck- 11
3. Kelly- 9
3. Girardengo- 9
3. Coppi- 9

Can Tadej crack the top 5?
He's on 5 wins atm.

Merckx's numbers are unreachable but De Vlaemincks's isn't. Teddy can get in this territory in a few years.

 

[Colonel]

Pog changed his plans at the last minute because Urska went with the women's team to the Sierra Nevada, he has no one to cook at home, no company, Mohoric, Mathews, Formolo are all at the races, so at the last minute it was decided to do the altitude because of the company

Mou
Please stop talking hogwash here, really this is complete and utter BS.
He was always scheduled for altitude after Catalunya and in this instance, as well as you claiming strongly that Javier coaches Yates, which he does not, your info was not correct.
It happens.

However, you need to be a man of your word like you said and leave. Cause if I was wrong, I would have left as expected and you would have made a noise.

You need to understand that sometimes you come up against a quiet person who also has very good information on certain subjects and only talks when they know they are right in.

 

[Colonel]

Tadej Pogacar heads to altitude to reach high peak for Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Giro d'Italia

Three weeks in Sierra Nevada follow Slovenian's commanding spring performances

www.cyclingnews.com

Lol that sounds so unprofessional

a 3yr old could make up a better story.

 

[Froome]

Mou
Please stop talking hogwash here, really this is complete and utter BS.
He was always scheduled for altitude after Catalunya and in this instance, as well as you claiming strongly that Javier coaches Yates, which he does not, your info was not correct.
It happens.

However, you need to be a man of your word like you said and leave. Cause if I was wrong, I would have left as expected and you would have made a noise.

You need to understand that sometimes you come up against a quiet person who also has very good information on certain subjects and only talks when they know they are right in.

What is the coach of Yates? Inigo San millan?

Yates improved a lot on emirates.

 

[bNator]

You need to understand that sometimes you come up against a quiet person who also has very good information on certain subjects and only talks when they know they are right in.

I’m picturing Clint Eastwood here😁

 

[Salvarani]

Your explanation doesn't make it sound more professional. It's not that it doesn't make sense to go, it's that they supposedly didn't know her's or he's scheduled and pulled this in the last second. Now it's UAE so nothing is impossible off cause.

They don’t have a ”normal” job.

Things change all the time. Rescheduling.

You are not making any sense calling it unprofessional.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I don’t think so.

You are reading it as a joke, it was written that way on purpose I am assuming, but it actually make sense.

A part of performing well is have great social and personal life for many. Pretty sure he will be better being close to his partner rather than spending three weeks apart.

You have to remember they spend many days apart as is.

This solution just make sense for everyone involved.

Sorry but cannot believe for a second he chose to ride at alttitude just to follow his girlfriend