Let's see though in the future if the shoe is on the other foot. I mean, MVDP is used to making the race, not following, as he did today and at MSR, which leaves one in a less explosive position in a final small group sprint. Today he got to save it all for the finish. True he had to bust his arse just to stay hitched to Tadej on the Paterberg, but I think in the end that actually worked to his advantage in the sprint. Because if you come through hell not totally destroyed, it often gives you an extra gear in the sprint to the line.Like I said before the race. Unless Pogacar drops him on the climbs I don't see him beating VDP in a group sprint. He couldn't in San Remo, he wouldn't here either.
with all due respect to Alaphilippe, but his flat sprint isn't as good as WvA or VDP. Although still quite dangerous after a hard race.
Also, Alaphilippe often is a bit more tactically inept in his sprints as well. Has the power, but not always uses his brain
No one is to blame. Pog tried to drop everyone but could not and he isn't a top classics sprinter. No need for recrimination or finger pointing it was just everyone tried their best and VdPs best was better than everyone elseLike RR said, VDP hit almost 1000W for 20s with a peak of 1400w. I don't think Pogacar would've won regardless. Sure as could've gotten 2nd, even in that 4 man sprint. All in all, he only has himself to blame
Because Ala is D'Artagnan and goes on panache alone. Who needs brains?with all due respect to Alaphilippe, but his flat sprint isn't as good as WvA or VDP. Although still quite dangerous after a hard race.
Also, Alaphilippe often is a bit more tactically inept in his sprints as well. Has the power, but not always uses his brain
Ala's sprint is very dangerouswith all due respect to Alaphilippe, but his flat sprint isn't as good as WvA or VDP. Although still quite dangerous after a hard race.
Also, Alaphilippe often is a bit more tactically inept in his sprints as well. Has the power, but not always uses his brain
Not when you consider there always are some Belgians up there that never win.Van Baarle's 5th top 10 in the last 7 Flanders, and the other two were top 20. Very underrated rider.
But he was a crosser. So does he not have the speed of himself?! I'm confused as to why Alaphilippe isn't as fast as Alaphilippe? Or you talking about his brother now?I don't think Alaphilippe made a mistake in that sprint, though. But yes, he does of course not have the speed of the crossers.
Roodhooft warned before the start of the season Mathieu was gonna race smarter this season. They kinda got a wake up call with the back injury. A career isn't forever. Racing attractively is what made Mathieu great but he did let some opportunities slip that way.Let's see though in the future if the shoe is on the other foot. I mean, MVDP is used to making the race, not following, as he did today and at MSR, which leaves one in a less explosive position in a final small group sprint. Today he got to save it all for the finish. True he had to bust his arse just to stay hitched to Tadej on the Paterberg, but I think in the end that actually worked to his advantage in the sprint. Because if you come through hell not totally destroyed, it often gives you an extra gear in the sprint to the line.
yup any questions I had about Pogi's explosivity compared to VDP or other specialists have gone straight to the trash can.Pogi's accelerations and riding on the climbs in the last 50km or so were some of the most insane things I ever saw in cycling. This kid...
But MvdP is a deserving winner.
True , but today he didn't have any other choice. It wasn't as if he could have attacked Tadej from the second Ouede Kwaremonte to the finish. He rode "smart" in the sense that he was able to follow and, above all, not get dropped on the last Paterberg . Then he managed to pull off the win. Let's see when he can make the race in the future if he can manage himself just as well (better than sometimes in the past). That will be the real test.Roodhooft warned before the start of the season Mathieu was gonna race smarter this season. They kinda got a wake up call with the back injury. A career isn't forever. Racing attractively is what made Mathieu great but he did let some opportunities slip that way.
I mean, Pogacar didn't give him any choice as you put it. He went bottom to top each climb maximum effort.True , but today he didn't have any other choice. It wasn't as if he could have attacked Tadej from the second Ouede Kwaremonte to the finish. He rode "smart" in the sense that he was able to follow and, above all, not get dropped on the last Paterberg . Then he managed to pull off the win. Let's see when he can make the race in the future if he can manage himself better. That will be the real test.
He is still less explosive than VDP and Alaphilippe and maybe a peak Hirschi. I also think Roglič can beat him in an uphill sprint on top of climbs like the Mur de Huy (we'll see soon). But the combinations of all the skills he has, it's what makes him the perfect cyclist.yup any questions I had about Pogi's explosivity compared to VDP or other specialists have gone straight to the trash can.
Seems this kid really got it all. Apart from sprinting tactics today
Agreed, but he's riding smarter because of the humility gained from the injury. He even said this in so many words in a recent interview. MSR was a test of form. He just had to focus on keeping up and, without making the race, saw he was good enough to be there or thereabouts in the end. Even today he didn't have to make the race, but just not get dropped by Tadej, and this time he won. Let's see when he is able to lay down the law again if he keeps racing this intelligently.I mean, Pogacar didn't give him any choice as you put it. He went bottom to top each climb maximum effort.
But I already saw in MSR Mathieu was riding smarter. And in Dwars as well (apart from one small acceleration at 90km).
then again, that's probably why he went at the bottom of each climb. Make it a long effort so there's no top end explosivity to it. If he waits until 2/3rd of the Kwaremont for VDP to go he's probably shooting himself in the footHe is still less explosive than VDP and Alaphilippe and maybe a peak Hirschi. I also think Roglič can beat him in an uphill sprint on top of climbs like the Mur de Huy (we'll see soon). But the combinations of all the skills he has, it's what makes him the perfect cyclist.
I think the fact that Pogi and MVDP weren't pulling full gas the final 10k helped MVDP have a more explosive sprint. I looked at van der Poel's power data for that segment, and also noticed the gap was dropping precipitously to Madouas and van Baarle (even before the trackstand last 1k which was still close to 35km/hr lmao pros are insane) who shouldn't have had the legs to pull back these two legends. Pogi should've either attacked on the flat or kept pulling at 420w+ to tire out MVDP a little more. I don't think it would've changed the victor in the end, and hindsight is 20/20 but it might've given him a better shot, and guaranteed 2nd place at worst.
Tadej should never have left MVDP dictate how the sprint was going to open up, from practically a standstill in addition. This completely favored into MVDP's one-day race explosivity and top end power. The only shot Pogacar had against MVDP (and given the strength he showed during the race, not an impossibility - difficult, yes, impossible, no) was to have pushed on to start the sprint at rolling speed, which, as you say, would have led to a grinder. And this would have at least played into Tadej's massive depth in resistance. My two cents. At any rate, he shows that he can win RVV in the future.This is the same conclusion I came to. Giving MVdP time to recover wipes out the whole benefit of starting the sprint behind him. The aerial shot shows he had no chance regardless of whether he got boxed in or not, but I respect the discipline of waiting so long. Maybe he could have jutted off to the side and caught him off guard but his best option was probably to keep the pace high and try to have a grindier sprint.
As MVdP put it here :Tadej ... At any rate, he shows that he can win RVV in the future.