11 former teammates testified against Armstrong

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cineteq said:
No kidding.

Simon Whitfield (Canadian triathlonist)
One thing missing from statements by George, Levi, Christian & co. is an apology to the athletes of their generation that chose not to.

Simon needs to apologize for pretending to know how to ride a bike (just kidding ;))

I think there is a general apology, but no direct one to those who chose not to dope. No doubt it could have been stronger. Nevertheless, I think it has been a positive turn compared to where things were at. I don't want to change the goal line just because they didn't man up the way I would prefer.

Could anyone have imagined this a few years ago?
 
Oct 16, 2009
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Viking said:
Only six months? I guess you don't count their disqualifications. Leipheimer lost 7 years of results, the majority outside the typical 8 year Statute of Limitations. DZ lost 3 years, one outside the SoL. CVV and Danielson each lost about 2 years.
Because they doped during those years.
 
Feb 29, 2012
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oncehadhair said:
So are there any deluded souls out there who still think armstrong didn't dope? Anyone?

He's the greatest athlete ever!

Byrunell disgusts me though, he'll probably still say that I didnt do anything related doping
 
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Escarabajo said:
It is called negotiation.

Plus they get to pay back prizes from the relevant period. That a lot of teddy bears, jerseys and medals. And oh, did they make any money doping?
 
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goggalor said:
Because they doped during those years.

Yes, and losing results for those years was part of the sanction. For many cases, that would have been the only punishment as the infractions were well in the past.
 
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Viking said:
Yes, and losing results for those years was part of the sanction. For many cases, that would have been the only punishment as the infractions were well in the past.
You don't get to keep results you cheated your way to, that's obvious. But losing them isn't part of the ban.
Escarabajo said:
It is called negotiation.
Terrible negotiation. Good negotiation in this case would be "talk and you may get to ride again before you're forty". The posties had no cards to play, yet they somehow walked away without any real sanctions. It's a joke.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Benotti69 said:
This is a statement.

The document of evidence is 1000 pages. Yes that is one thousand pages.

Those 1000 pages would make for a spectacular witch burning.
 
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Notice how Armstrong's lawyer is all over TV now attacking USADA and making false claims about the evidence.

Armstrong's PR strategy is now to attack the USADA organization. They can no longer use the angle that a couple riders have an axe to grind now that there are 11 teammates and 15 other personnel that have testified against Armstrong.

To Armstrong, it's a Public relations battle.