2011 Critérium du Dauphiné, Stage 6: Les Gets - Le Collet d’Allevard, 192.5 km

[auscyclefan94]

Please Hitch, don't let your appreciation for the Asturian rider turn you into an AsturianCyclingFan

There is only one ACF! The Hitch could change his name from The Hitch to AsturianReiter!

 

[greenedge]

Makes you sort of want JROD to do the TDF, he only really showed himself in the Giro near the end. Nice ride by Kern too, he could maybe go well in some smaller mountains in the TDF and therefore get a top 30??? Nice to see Gesink show himself as well. I think Vino, JROD and VDB shall put Wiggins and Evans in difficulty tommorow. Nice ride by Wiggins and hard for Evans.

EBH is great. For some reason i did not see Geraint T the whole Eurosport coverage which was only ( 50km ) but still. Nice riding by Sky

I would rate Fuglsang higher than Zaugg maybe as a climber. It shall be a battle of Fuglsang vs CAS as superdomestiques for Shlecks and Contador.

 

[Mambo95]

For some reason i did not see Geraint T the whole Eurosport coverage which was only ( 50km ) but still. Nice riding by Sky

He was in the thick of the cows, if you saw that bit.

 

[Mambo95]

It shall be a battle of Fuglsang vs CAS as superdomestiques for Shlecks and Contador.

Don't forget Navarro. A monster last year. I haven't seen him this year. There's nothing wrong is there?

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

What a disapointing stage. Not only did Samu, one of the biggest names in cycling fall back, there were absolutely no camera shots of him, nor was it mentioned by the commentators, not by anyone on the forum.

Seems like a lot of people are underestimating the Asturian, once again.


His performance was poor but he wasnt exactly setting the world on fire at this race last year either.

whoa get a grip.

The guy wasn't amongst the action, why should we discuss him in the thick of the action? We didn't see him fall back so it isn't like we could comment.

Samu for most of the race and last year has taken the Dauphine easy, not much talking point there, come july if it happens people will react.

No one is underestimating samu, we just understand he isn't going hard here

 

[greenedge]

Navarro was at the Giro but everyone thought he was not so super/ along with most of their team ( i suppose no race favourite really attacked early and there were the transfers/ long stages ). Also i think i would have Noval and CAS as well as Navarro and whoever is better has the role of launching the pistol

 

[profff]

Depends. Could well be that Rigo is a month from top form. Timing his form for the Tour de France. Hes also been ill.

uran just went back from colombia three days before the dauphinee.
he does not look in good condition.
colombians when they come back to their homeland rarely train well.
very rare to see a colombian rider get back in europe in really good shape.

i think sky should have kept uran in europe , like gianni savio did for ruyano. which spent 4 month in europe preparing the giro.

ok , rigo is a different guy from ruyano, but the south american mentality os different from the attitude of a north european rider.
ok colombia has the altitude, but it is Different than proper altitude training : train low rest high .
in the best case, he will have the benefit of the time spent in altitude in 3 weeks.

anyway , i still hope rigo will grow in next weeks and that he will be allowed to play his chances at the tour, instead pacing wiggo sor an 8th place at the tour...

 

[maltiv]

uran just went back from colombia three days before the dauphinee.
he does not look in good condition.
colombians when they come back to their homeland rarely train well.
very rare to see a colombian rider get back in europe in really good shape.

i think sky should have kept uran in europe , like gianni savio did for ruyano. which spent 4 month in europe preparing the giro.

ok , rigo is a different guy from ruyano, but the south american mentality os different from the attitude of a north european rider.
ok colombia has the altitude, but it is Different than proper altitude training : train low rest high .
in the best case, he will have the benefit of the time spent in altitude in 3 weeks.

anyway , i still hope rigo will grow in next weeks and that he will be allowed to play his chances at the tour, instead pacing wiggo sor an 8th place at the tour...

Uran must have improved his TT quite a lot when he can get 18th without being in good condition...

 

[El Pistolero]

whoa get a grip.

The guy wasn't amongst the action, why should we discuss him in the thick of the action? We didn't see him fall back so it isn't like we could comment.

Samu for most of the race and last year has taken the Dauphine easy, not much talking point there, come july if it happens people will react.

No one is underestimating samu, we just understand he isn't going hard here

I saw Samu hanging in the back on the climb, cameras kept showing him. They didn't show him pop, but they showed him about to pop.

 

[Andy99]

The bit in brackets is key. The second pair of brackets that is. 6 riders for GBR unless something amazing happens.

I, think possibly 9...

The 10 first countries in UCI WorldTour classification by nation on 15 August 2011:
each country may enter 14 riders, with 9 to start. However, a nation with fewer than 9
riders classified in the individual UCI WorldTour ranking on 15 August 2011 shall start
the number of riders that are classified. A nation with fewer than 6 riders classified in
the UCI WorldTour ranking will, nonetheless, start 6 riders (* and **).

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of
the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to
obtain in its respective tour – the UCI Africa Tour, UCI America Tour, UCI Asia Tour, UCI
Europe Tour and the UCI Oceania Tour – but must not, however, exceed the athlete quota
obtained in the UCI WorldTour.

The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August
2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification: the first six
nations qualifying can enter 9 riders, with 6 to start (rank 1); the nations ranked 7th to
16th can enter 5 riders, with 3 to start

GB currently ranked 11th, in Europe Tour, so presuming they don't drop out of the top 16 - that gives them another 3 riders.

6+3 = 9

Please somebody confirm if I am interpreting this correctly.....I think the key point is whether or not 'athlete quota' refers to any riders or a proportion of the maximum quota???

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=NjY2OTc&LangId=1

 

[Havetts]

I saw Samu hanging in the back on the climb, cameras kept showing him. They didn't show him pop, but they showed him about to pop.

Yea and people mentioned this, that Basso & Samu were about to pop when Gesink went.. Basso instantly couldnt follow and Samu held on somewhat longer, but yea why should we mention more than what we see. Do you want us to talk up his chances for the stage win eventhough he dropped with 5,5 k (approx.) too go?

Bit of a shame that you posted like that Hitch it was an amazing race with attacks, people dropping and ofcourse COWS.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I thought it was a good stage, a lot of action.

 

[Andy99]

I thought it was a good stage, a lot of action.

Me too! Not exactly sure what some people were expecting..

 

[Captain_Cavman]

I, think possibly 9...

The 10 first countries in UCI WorldTour classification by nation on 15 August 2011:
each country may enter 14 riders, with 9 to start. However, a nation with fewer than 9
riders classified in the individual UCI WorldTour ranking on 15 August 2011 shall start
the number of riders that are classified. A nation with fewer than 6 riders classified in
the UCI WorldTour ranking will, nonetheless, start 6 riders (* and **).

* A national federation not reaching its athlete quota through the UCI World Tour rankings of
the UCI WorldTour calendar may obtain places up to the number of places it was unable to
obtain in its respective tour – the UCI Africa Tour, UCI America Tour, UCI Asia Tour, UCI
Europe Tour and the UCI Oceania Tour – but must not, however, exceed the athlete quota
obtained in the UCI WorldTour.

The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August
2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification: the first six
nations qualifying can enter 9 riders, with 6 to start (rank 1); the nations ranked 7th to
16th can enter 5 riders, with 3 to start

GB currently ranked 11th, in Europe Tour, so presuming they don't drop out of the top 16 - that gives them another 3 riders.

6+3 = 9

Please somebody confirm if I am interpreting this correctly.....I think the key point is whether or not 'athlete quota' refers to any riders or a proportion of the maximum quota???

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=NjY2OTc&LangId=1

Cheers for looking these up. It's unfortunate that the person who translated them from French to English wasn't more familiar with either language.

The first 16 nations of the classification by nation of the UCI Europe Tour on 15 August 2011 excluding the nations qualifying via the UCI WorldTour classification:

So I don't think this section applies.

I couldn't find the ** referred to.

which leaves the *. My reading of it is that this allows the country to raise the number of riders to 6 using European tour points if they haven't got enough with World Tour points. My reasoning is that the * is contained in the sentence which refers to nations with less than six riders getting six riders nonetheless.

My reasoning could well be wrong though.

 

[Andy99]

Cheers for looking these up. It's unfortunate that the person who translated them from French to English wasn't more familiar with either language.


So I don't think this section applies.

I couldn't find the ** referred to.

which leaves the *. My reading of it is that this allows the country to raise the number of riders to 6 using European tour points if they haven't got enough with World Tour points. My reasoning is that the * is contained in the sentence which refers to nations with less than six riders getting six riders nonetheless.

My reasoning could well be wrong though.

Yeah, it's not explicitly clear either way!

I was viewing the phrase up to the number of places it was unable to
obtain as potentially meaning the difference in the full possible quota (i.e 9) being made up by the Europe Tour quota...

Who knows. Hopefully someone at the UCI does.