Ryo Hazuki said:
Thanks a lot Profff-esor for your info. I knew he had to be good somehow. He was with the best today.profff said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
) -and there is no indication he will be-until he proves it in europe. Ryo Hazuki said:
Ryo Hazuki said:
theyoungest said:
theyoungest said:
Not bad but he didn't take a lot of time and who from? Scarponi and Leppi...nothing to lose sleep about. Evans is a bit more of a surprise.mombus said:Here is a clip of Contador's attack today
It comes at about 6:15 into the video. It is pretty nasty-looking. He looks to be in really incredible form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11BrgxGUwHI
Not surprising tbh (about evans). I didn't expect overly much at all from him. Quite content with top 10webvan said:
Publicus said:
webvan said:
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:lol basically, you dislike European cycling because it is more structured and raced at a higher level. You always refer to the Vuelta a Colombia, and the top ten destroying the field blabla. When LOL these guys apparently at peak form had Oscar Sevilla in 2nd place. I mean WOW, these guys really are so much better then the rest of the world.
Seriously, VaColombia is no indication, Haneo is nothing compared to AC or the other top tier climbers in europe(pretty confident I could make a pretty decent list of riders who could take more then 1.49 out of Oscar Sevilla in 14 days
You base your opinion on lower level racing, less structured.
And belittle the proven best climbers in the world, I agree with C&CFan, you choose to highlight performances that indicate potential, and totally disregard others. You said imagine what the guys in front of cano (at the VaC)could have done here, well one was here around 30th position... next example please.
Like youngest said, nothing wrong with being happy, but your statements are ridiculous and even more fanboy and delusional then an ACF rant.
it is comments like these, that I find hard to eat.
On what basis are they so much superior to the rest of the world?
What they attack on low quality races?
no.
indeed. Basso won the giro in a weaker field. Great climber, but no way near AC's level.
Christ Timmy. Next your going to be telling Ryo that Santa isnt real I mean talk about crushing someone's dreams.
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:lol basically, you dislike European cycling because it is more structured and raced at a higher level. You always refer to the Vuelta a Colombia, and the top ten destroying the field blabla. When LOL these guys apparently at peak form had Oscar Sevilla in 2nd place. I mean WOW, these guys really are so much better then the rest of the world.
Seriously, VaColombia is no indication, Haneo is nothing compared to AC or the other top tier climbers in europe(pretty confident I could make a pretty decent list of riders who could take more then 1.49 out of Oscar Sevilla in 14 days
You base your opinion on lower level racing, less structured.
And belittle the proven best climbers in the world, I agree with C&CFan, you choose to highlight performances that indicate potential, and totally disregard others. You said imagine what the guys in front of cano (at the VaC)could have done here, well one was here around 30th position... next example please.
Like youngest said, nothing wrong with being happy, but your statements are ridiculous and even more fanboy and delusional then an ACF rant.
it is comments like these, that I find hard to eat.
On what basis are they so much superior to the rest of the world?
What they attack on low quality races?
no.
indeed. Basso won the giro in a weaker field. Great climber, but no way near AC's level.
Mollema isn't as talented as the likes of Gesink I agree with DT on that one, but still, he should be aiming higher.
The Hitch said:
The Hitch said:
auscyclefan94 said:
Timmy-loves-Rabo said:this I don't disagree with. He is just selective with his choice of 'rating' riders.
I don't mind him posting about it, but it will obviously cause reactions, like mine, which is what a forum is all about.
In hindsight, the Colombian riders, and his passionate input only means more talking points for this forum.
But yeah, it wont stop me from having an opinion on the issue.
yawn.
no. you never actually post cycling related arguments, rather comment on irrelevant things (you constantly make comments about me, but never actually address the issue at hand, it grows tiresome. From your 10000 posts I can't think of a handful of insightful posts.). Come back when you have something decent to contribute. thanks
MADRAZO said:
Ryo Hazuki said:they were in u23, pls don't go look at results by knowing what you know today but they were supertalents in u23. and aosta is one of the strongest u23 races in the world when it comes to level or competitors right there with giro bio, tour avenir and thuringer rundfahrt until 3/4 years ago.
getting colombians to sign with european teams isn't much of a solution. for instance a guy like pantano was 2nd in gp tell in his first u23 year with the uci mixte team. he had increidble results in europe for a regular talent in colombia. but the guy was crying every night because he missed his country so much swearing he would never return to europe despite getting offers from teams, same with duarte in 2007, oliverio rincon and countless of other cases. the only reason pantano came back and was 3rd at last years tour avenir was because he was in a colombian team. You know how many offers quintana had last year?? 15!! pro teams wanted him but he refused them all.
you should only get colombian riders if you get a number of them and really have the colombian atmosphere in the team. ever wondered by colombia is number 1 on the world happy index despite everything?? it's a special country that everyone who went there misses.
personally I hope for colombia es passion and many other colombian teams to make the move to europe like in the 80s. many things need to be changed including attitude of colombian teams thinking cycling in europe is still like it was in the 80s but they are slowly learning while having an unlimited source of cyclingtalent that we will NEVER see in europa unless in a colombian team because for many that's the choice they have made. the best colombian riders aren't ardila, duque, serpa or perhaps even soler and uran, they are guys like ortega, henao, duarte, colorado, montana, suarez. we have seen a few short glimpses of duarte already and he is from a different planet we will see this giro if menchov hopefully fails because duarte has much more potential and rides with his heart instead of fear.
to give an indication colombia es passion is the 5th best team of colombia behind epm-une, boyaca orgullo, orgullo paisa and great wall shimano. imagine them coming here as well
That kind of research already exists, number of suicides per capita. Sweden usually scores pretty high on those.boomcie said:
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