2012 Criterium du Dauphiné

[Angliru]

Yeah, he always goes full out in prep races, this is going to be epic!

I detect an air of disbelief in your post.

 

[hughmoore]

He has a much better chance in 2013 on more mountainous course but then he has to contend with Contador who will be out to prove a point. Once again he should podium but hard to see him winning. I just think the TT situation this year will kill his chances even if he does climb well.

While i dont disagree, what happens if there is 100km of TT in 2013, Contador is far superior to Shrek in TT, Cadel would then only have to limit his lossess to Shrek.

I aplogise for discussing the Tour, given this is Dauphine thread, but what the hell.



Hugh

 

[karlboss]

I have my doubts about him making the podium simply because the TT losses will cancel out any gains he makes in the mountains especially with riders like Wiggins and Evans and maybe Menchov.

How much time will he lose in the TTs? I figure more than 5 minutes would be disastrous. I can easily see him bringing back at least 2, and 3 minutes from the leader is often on the podium. Personally I think he'll lose more like 4 to the best GC TTer, and make up closer to 3 to finish about a minute down. The only thing stopping Andy getting on the podium again is if another team mate proves stronger.

 

[greenedge]

IMHO, P-N had neither decent amount of flat ITT or mountains. 9km of flat ITT is too less while Mende and Eze are just a medium mountains.

I know the 1st part but the balance was correct ( with the amount of ITT vs Climbing ). Westra could have won ( it was a close race ), maybe if he did not sit up as much too.

 

[movingtarget]

While i dont disagree, what happens if there is 100km of TT in 2013, Contador is far superior to Shrek in TT, Cadel would then only have to limit his lossess to Shrek.

I aplogise for discussing the Tour, given this is Dauphine thread, but what the hell.



Hugh

If it's more mountains next year it will be less TT I am supposing. I still cannot see Schleck beating Contador whatever the route.

 

[movingtarget]

How much time will he lose in the TTs? I figure more than 5 minutes would be disastrous. I can easily see him bringing back at least 2, and 3 minutes from the leader is often on the podium. Personally I think he'll lose more like 4 to the best GC TTer, and make up closer to 3 to finish about a minute down. The only thing stopping Andy getting on the podium again is if another team mate proves stronger.

He could and should take time back on Evans and Wiggins on the MTFs but he will get slaughtered in the TTs. He has done nothing in his most recent TTs to suggest otherwise. Evans and Wiggins and Menchov will be even more motivated by the non appearance of Contador. Schleck should be too but if he rides like he did in 2011 he has no chance. I am sure Bruyneel will be a factor but I don't think it will be enough to make Schleck a winner. Third place at best I think.

 

[cineteq]

Start list thus far:
http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=51622
TdF contenders: Evans, Wiggins, A. Schleck, S. Sanchez, Menchov, Rolland and Nibali are there.

 

[Gloin22]

Start list thus far:
http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=51622
TdF contenders: Evans, Wiggins, A. Schleck, S. Sanchez, Menchov, Rolland and Nibali are there.

I'd add Martin to that imo. With 50km of TT in One Stage Week he will gain a lot on many and shouldnt loose great deal in mountains so I'd say Top 5 is possible ,possibly. Otherwise it's between Evans and Wigins again.

 

[Bavarianrider]

I'd add Martin to that imo. With 60km of TT in One Stage Week he will gain a lot on many and shouldnt loose great deal in mountains so I'd say Top 5 is possible ,possibly. Otherwise it's between Evans and Wigins again.

Fixed that for you
Wiggins should be the clear favorite, though.

 

[Gloin22]

Fixed that for you

Heh.

I am looking forward to Wiggo v Martin TT battle though. Wiggo seems to improved his TT this year a little so should be great watch that.

And if people say Giro is controlled by Liquigas a lot.

Stay away from Dauhpine UK Postal will control this easily with the team they are sending here.

FROOME Christopher
HAGEN Edvald Boasson
KNEES Christian
PATE Danny
PORTE Richie
ROGERS Michael
SIVTSOV Kanstantsin
WIGGINS Bradley

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

martin will smoke him obviously

 

[Gloin22]

martin will smoke him obviously

How do you know ? Last year Martin just won over 11secs ahead of Wiggo who wasn't risking it as much as Martin, as he had yellow and couldn't afford crashing. That was on a42.5 TT.

This year Martin doesnt have best luck with injuries while Wiggo seems great. I wouldn't be so sure Ryo.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

How do you know ? Last year Martin just won over 11secs ahead of Wiggo who wasn't risking it as much as Martin, as he had yellow and couldn't afford crashing. That was on a42.5 TT.

This year Martin doesnt have best luck with injuries while Wiggo seems great. I wouldn't be so sure Ryo.

in algarve martin was out of shape and wiggins beat him with only 1 second because martin missed 2 corners and rode over a cat. imo he's only getting better and wiggins is 32 and losing weight

 

[Lexman]

Curious to see if Andy S. will be able to ride a whole week without his brother and how much time he will lose in the ITT

so after a bad TDS last year he tries to get ready via the Dauphine this year

 

[jens_attacks]

i think wiggins this time shouldn't go for the win here.
this has to be finally cadel getting the dauphine
and quintana winning in morzine

 

[Escarabajo]

I am glad to see Quintana in the start list. I hope he starts to show his potential.

 

[phanatic]

I hope Andy goes for King of the Mountains again, like at the TdS last year.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I am glad to see Quintana in the start list. I hope he starts to show his potential.

Where exactly? There's precisely 1 (1) climb that is likely to be of any relevance whatsoever in this parcours.

 

[McLovin]

Heh.

FROOME Christopher
HAGEN Edvald Boasson
KNEES Christian Cav
PATE Danny
PORTE Richie
ROGERS Michael
SIVTSOV Kanstantsin
WIGGINS Bradley
Bernie

Tour team?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I am glad to see Quintana in the start list. I hope he starts to show his potential.

he has already started long time ago

 

[Gloin22]

Tour team?

Yea, pretty much Few people think Eisel wont do Tour and Knees will, but I doubt it.

 

[roundabout]

http://www.letour.fr/2012/CDD/COURSE/fr/guide-tv.html

Woopie, apart from the awful route it's stream time.

Wonder what happened that we ended up back in 2006 in terms of Eurosport coverage

 

[search]

Wonder what happened that we ended up back in 2006 in terms of Eurosport coverage

it happened to clash with Rolland Garros big time this year...

I expected it to be live on Eurosport 2 at least, but that's not the case as well, unfortunately

Edit: all stages are live on Eurosport Asia and Eurosport Australia btw

 

[ferryman]

Wiggins arrogant or simply confident with the training he and his boys have put in on Tenerife:

There is no such thing as an easy Tour but we have done days or sessions up here that are hard as anything I have ever done. When you start banking those rides one after another and feeling the benefit, it is a huge confidence boost, I would be very surprised if there is a day in my next race – defending my Dauphiné title – that will match the big days we have done on Teide.

 

[iZnoGouD]

i read that too, let's see how it works out, there's no doubt he is putting a massive effort in that preparation