2012 Giro d'Italia; May 14th; Stage 9: San Giorgio nel Sannio - Frosinone (166km)

[will10]

Anyone who thinks that corner was dangerous is kidding themselves. Sh8t happens.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I suggest you watch track cycling then.

Errr, The phrases "think before you post" and "Nice to see constructive criticism" suddenly no long apply.
What a surprise.

Time to abandon another torpedoed thread.

I was 5 metres away from Awang, when they wheeled him past with that arrow in his leg, so I guess El P has caught me.
Crashes on the track? whatever next?

 

[Gloin22]

So was Goss before this Giro.

But he performed on stage 2 straight away...unlike Ventoso if you notice Goss was getting in good form in Turkey as well.

 

[plooton]

the single stupid bend devalued all the efforts many riders put in the stage.

 

[c&cfan]

Track can be a dangerous sport as well

i never had an wound like that. it scares the sh*t out of me (not looking at one, but suffering one). how does it feel?

anyway, i'm made of iron.. probably i won't know how that feels anytime soon.

 

[Mellow Velo]

i never had an wound like that. it scares the sh*t out of me (not looking at one, but suffering one). how does it feel?

anyway, i'm made of iron.. probably i won't know how that feels anytime soon.

They had to leave that splinter in over night. No surgeon available.
Bodes well for the Lympics.

 

[El Pistolero]

Errr, The phrases "think before you post" and "Nice to see constructive criticism" suddenly no long apply.
What a surprise.

Time to abandon another torpedoed thread.

I was 5 metres away from Awang, when they wheeled him past with that arrow in his leg, so I guess El P has caught me.
Crashes on the track? whatever next?

You only want the best sprinter to win: well then, do a few laps around the velodrome and let the best sprinters of the world sprint against each other.

No this is road racing, part of the game.

Most crashes, on track and road, are the fault of riders, not the course. In some cases the course can be blamed, but not today.

Crashes even happen in a straight final. And quite frequently actually. Sprinting is dangerous and will always remain so.

 

[El Pistolero]

But he performed on stage 2 straight away...unlike Ventoso if you notice Goss was getting in good form in Turkey as well.

Ventoso is clearly someone who benefits from a hard stage. Last year he also won a hilly stage in a sprint. It's no surprise to see him win this.

At least Ventoso won a race before he came to the Giro.

Goss would've probably beaten him without the crash, but that's because you know... He's a better cyclist than Ventoso.

 

[jens_attacks]

lol good finish with purito going ballistic.gotta say he probably knows he will be demolished in the mountains,better get maglia rosa now.
also basso and rujanito at the front on the climb.rumours from the peloton rujano is pedalling like a mutant when the road goes uphill...can't wait for cervinia!

 

[Fetisoff]

Rodriguez: "I'm in a good shape: I attacked because every seconds gained is important in order to win this Giro"
Piva: "Purito's action was unexpected, but he strongly wants to achieve his goals and if you don't try, you never win"

 

[hrotha]

I thought El Pistrollero was being silly again but then I looked up and saw this started when someone called Ventoso a "no-name 2nd-tier sprinter". So go Pisti.

 

[jens_attacks]

Rodriguez: "I'm in a good shape: I attacked because every seconds gained is important in order to win this Giro"

man i love purito but that's a lot of crrap right there.he should have said "i wanted to get the stage and the maglia rosa".that attack has nothing to do for the giro overall

he did the same in the vuelta...and when the real mountains came froomy and cobo put minutes into him
the giro will not be won by seconds,someone will dominate pretty hard and there is a lot of places where to put devastating attacks

 

[Fetisoff]

man i love purito but that's a lot of crrap right there.he should have said "i wanted to get the stage and the maglia rosa".that attack has nothing to do for the giro overall

LOL, you're right. Especially considering he had this to say yesterday

Rodriguez: "The uphill was hard but the group didn't face it full gas: the race is still long, we have to save our energies"

 

[El Pistolero]

Track can be a dangerous sport as well

I know, it's the bit where he complained about possible bad weather that made me make that post. And also the fact that he only wants to best sprinter to win. What better way to do that then a few laps on the velodrome between the best sprinters of the world.

Who's that by the way?

(I saw a cyclist die on the track with my own eyes, so I don't need to be told it's dangerous).

 

[will10]

I know, it's the bit where he complained about possible bad weather that made me make that post. And also the fact that he only wants to best sprinter to win. What better way to do that then a few laps on the velodrome between the best sprinters of the world.

Who's that by the way?

(I saw a cyclist die on the track with my own eyes, so I don't need to be told it's dangerous).

Awang. Never been anywhere near as quick as he was since then.

Were you there when Galvez died?

 

[El Pistolero]

LOL, you're right. Especially considering he had this to say yesterday

Rodriguez: "The uphill was hard but the group didn't face it full gas: the race is still long, we have to save our energies"

He just attacks when he feels like it. I like that in a rider, he doesn't think too much. Not afraid of taking risks. Let's be honest, he won't be losing the Giro because he attacked on a flat stage today.

 

[Caruut]

I said that because today was not tailor-made for him. He was still there, but had to fight for it. He had to make up a lot of places after the little hills. Hence stage wasn't suited for him. He could've won yes, but I don't think he would've won even without the crash. Those hills most likely took some speed away from him and Goss was much better positioned. I enjoyed this stage because of the fact that it was't all flat without any obstacles. There clearly were obstacles to be overcome this time. I really don't see how you could interpret that to what you're saying. I said every sprint stage should be like this yet you think I said it was tailor-made for Cavendish. Doesn't even make sense lol.

I thought you were saying the bend made it non-tailor-made. I misinterpreted.

Yes, I like to see more versatile riders win races. I wanted Pozzato to win this, but he crashed. Goss isn't a pure sprinter, he's quite the versatile cyclist. I definitely like to see Goss win over Cavendish on such a stage. That's a personal opinion of mine and doesn't mean I want to see other riders crash. It means I want stages like this that don't just benefit a pure sprinter, but also a rider who's decent on hills. You simply imply and spout bull****.

If that's what you meant then I'm sorry for reacting to it. Sometimes your posts can be a little open-ended in what I feel is an overly provocative way, but then perhaps I should remember than if I tried to write in French or Dutch, mine would be far less understandable.

I didn't say it was his fault, I said it was Pippo's fault. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

The point I'm trying to make is that in a crash coming into the finish, there are always going to be guys who did everything right and got punished for it. In this case, Cavendish was one of them. In other cases, he has been the guy causing them. It's unfortunate, because it kind of devalues the stage win, for me. I know I shouldn't, but when all the big favourites go down in a pile, leaving a few non-favourites to contest the finish, I am more interested in how the crash happened and who's fault it was.

You clearly are hurt because he didn't win. Otherwise you wouldn't react in such an aggressive way when my post clearly was not aggressive. Sorry for having an opinion.

Thanks for the psychoanalysis, but I'm not too bothered. I just like the winners to have been the best on the day, a crash means that you can never know who it would have been. I think Goss was probably the more likely winner, I was very surprised to even see Cavendish.

 

[Fetisoff]

I know, it's the bit where he complained about possible bad weather that made me make that post. And also the fact that he only wants to best sprinter to win. What better way to do that then a few laps on the velodrome between the best sprinters of the world.

Who's that by the way?

(I saw a cyclist die on the track with my own eyes, so I don't need to be told it's dangerous).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azizulhasni_Awang
And I was just being a smart *** with my comment anyway. Just showed a friend this picture yesterday, so I thought why not insert it here just for the hell of it

 

[Caruut]

I thought El Pistrollero was being silly again but then I looked up and saw this started when someone called Ventoso a "no-name 2nd-tier sprinter". So go Pisti.

I though that was more "He is a cyclist whose sprinting isn't first rate, but is still quite good", than "He is a sprinter who is a second rate cyclist". Big difference.

 

[Caruut]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azizulhasni_Awang
And I was just being a smart *** with my comment anyway. Just showed a friend this picture yesterday, so I thought why not insert it here just for the hell of it

From the wiki article:

"Azizul is now married to his wife".

No ****.

 

[El Pistolero]

Awang. Never been anywhere near as quick as he was since then.

Were you there when Galvez died?

Yeah, it was horrible. Dimi de Fauw committed suicide because of that incident, so double the tragedy.

 

[El Pistolero]

The point I'm trying to make is that in a crash coming into the finish, there are always going to be guys who did everything right and got punished for it. In this case, Cavendish was one of them. In other cases, he has been the guy causing them. It's unfortunate, because it kind of devalues the stage win, for me. I know I shouldn't, but when all the big favourites go down in a pile, leaving a few non-favourites to contest the finish, I am more interested in how the crash happened and who's fault it was.

I also like to see the best guy win, but at the same time it's that unpredictability in road racing that makes me love this sport. If road races were always won by the best like in track and field then I would never have become a fan of this sport anyway(and this is coming from a 100meter sprinter by the way ).

 

[Mellow Velo]

Stage 11 is going to be worse - three sharp corners in the last km

Let's hope all the GC boys stay safe then.
(and Rabo)

 

[Caruut]

I also like to see the best guy win, but at the same time it's that unpredictability in road racing that makes me love this sport. If road races were always won by the best like in track and field then I would never have become a fan of this sport anyway(and this is coming from a 100meter sprinter by the way ).

I agree, it's why road racing is the only endurance sport that is actually popular with fans. I prefer the unpredictability not to just be a kind of brutal dice-roll like a crash though.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Are you planning to keep an eye out for the tarmac today?

Turned out you were quite prophetic.