2012 Paris - Nice

[Andy99]

What about Leipheimer and Klöden?

The winner will be an all rounder.

To be honest, I'm more surprised that there are actually bookmakers in the UK that know Paris-Nice exists

 

[maltiv]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/martin-paris-nice-route-is-not-ideal-for-me

Tony Martin doesn't seem to believe much in his chances.

Favorites are for me Coppel, Taaramae, Valverde, Menchov and TGBM

Bauke Mollema didn't show that much in Andalucia though, so I wouldn't name his as one of the top favourites.

 

[theyoungest]

Bauke Mollema didn't show that much in Andalucia though, so I wouldn't name his as one of the top favourites.

He usually needs some racing under the belt to be good, he said towards the end of the week his form was coming along. Still not one of the top favourites for me, but that's more because of the course.

 

[ferryman]

You think that is a surprise.The bookies are even worse over here.

Have to disagree. I love Paddy Power and the cycling bets you can get Or maybe they love me

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Ivan Basso at the head of winning Liquigas-Cannondale team in Paris-Nice

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...nondale-team-in-Paris-Nice.aspx#ixzz1nzaDuFff

 

[Museeuw]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/martin-paris-nice-route-is-not-ideal-for-me

Tony Martin doesn't seem to believe much in his chances.

Favorites are for me Coppel, Taaramae, Valverde, Menchov and TGBM

This is interesting.

Taaramae has been ill for a week. That must affect on some level. Or not?

What has Coppel shown to be a favourite here? Where is he so good at?


Why not Wiggo?

 

[Cycling the Alps]

The complete route with very detailed information of all the climbs

You will find the complete route and very detailed information of all the climbs here.
http://www.cyclingthealps.com/#paris-nice-2012

Here is an overview of all the climbs.
http://sites.cyclingthealps.com/worldtour/2012/paris-nice-2012

And a video of the itt on the Col d'Eze on stage 8.
Shows you if Wiggo is capable of winning it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPT6ftsIN4

 

[barmaher]

I have had three cycling bets today.

Alejandro Valverde at 6/1 for Paris Nice with Victor Chandler
Bradley Wiggins at 13/2 for Paris Nice with Boylesports

Alessandro Ballan for Strade Bianche at 8/1 (can't remember where...I have a few accounts).

I don't like talking up my bets but AV and BW are big favourites to me. Obviously Menchov, Klodi and Levi are dangers, and anything can happen in cycling. The fact that Coppel was put in as a favourite shows how little bookmakers know about cycling.

Coppel is a decent rider with an outside chance of a top 5 if he puts it together but an on-form Wiggo, Alejandro, Denis, Klodi or Levi would kill him.

 

[ferryman]

I checked Paddy Power website earlier. They are doing nothing on Paris-Nice but they are doing Strade Bianche which is a surprise.

And anyway what i am on about is that you never see the odds displayed inside the bookies themselves in Ireland. I remember last year i had to ask over the counter in Paddy Power for the odds on the Tour coz they werent displayed and that was in the week leading up to it.

Get an account They will have odds for PN overall and stages and maybe specials. Just have to keep checking when they are up. Same with any of the big tours. And all of the one day classics. You can even get live betting on a lot of races. I've already had bets on with them at Quatar, KBK and Het Volk.

Small losses so far but Nibs will turn that around at SB on Sunday

 

[greenedge]

Ivan Basso at the head of winning Liquigas-Cannondale team in Paris-Nice

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...nondale-team-in-Paris-Nice.aspx#ixzz1nzaDuFff

They also have Syzmd. Hopefully Basso can have a good start here and start proving to me he can win the Giro ( as he shall be on the right track ).

 

[ferryman]

I have had three cycling bets today.

Alejandro Valverde at 6/1 for Paris Nice with Victor Chandler
Bradley Wiggins at 13/2 for Paris Nice with Boylesports

Alessandro Ballan for Strade Bianche at 8/1 (can't remember where...I have a few accounts).

I don't like talking up my bets but AV and BW are big favourites to me. Obviously Menchov, Klodi and Levi are dangers, and anything can happen in cycling. The fact that Coppel was put in as a favourite shows how little bookmakers know about cycling.

Coppel is a decent rider with an outside chance of a top 5 if he puts it together but an on-form Wiggo, Alejandro, Denis, Klodi or Levi would kill him.

I like Valverde at those odds.

 

[greenedge]

Bookmakers in England have three joint favourites for this race.

Wiggins
Valverde
Coppel

With Reine Taaramae, Tony Martin, Denis Menchov and Frank Schleck deemed the other likely contenders.

No Leipheimer who has already gone well on climbs in San Luis

 

[Poursuivant]

I like Valverde at those odds.

Slightly off topic boys and girls, but I posted in another thread about this too: with regards to odds, Cavendish is 7/2 for Milan SanRemo with Lads, 4/1 elsewhere. Would it be better if I wait nearer the time for other bookies to release their odds or will these be the best odds I will get? Thanks.

I fancy Wiggins for PN, looked in good form helping Porte last week, but Valverde is always a threat.

 

[RedZone]

Slightly off topic boys and girls, but I posted in another thread about this too: with regards to odds, Cavendish is 7/2 for Milan SanRemo with Lads, 4/1 elsewhere. Would it be better if I wait nearer the time for other bookies to release their odds or will these be the best odds I will get? Thanks.

I fancy Wiggins for PN, looked in good form helping Porte last week, but Valverde is always a threat.

I personally wouldnt bet on anyone at 4-1 in MSR. Too much shenanigans can happen.

 

[greenedge]

7-2 is quite good odds considering that is 3.5-1. Also it will probably go down when people realise he just won KBK and probably a stage or so at T-A ( no more hiding tactics like in 09 when he was not a WC/ trying to hide )

 

[canyonball]

Ivan Basso at the head of winning Liquigas-Cannondale team in Paris-Nice

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...nondale-team-in-Paris-Nice.aspx#ixzz1nzaDuFff

hmm...no.

I 'm more curious to see Capecchi. Great showing in both Laigueglia and Lugano. Hope the circunstances allow him to ride for himself and I think they will.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Should be a great race. The competition is really tough this year and the route is interesting. A real "mini Tour de France"

 

[ferryman]

Should be a great race. The competition is really tough this year and the route is interesting. A real "mini Tour de France"

Hmm. The Dauphine is the mini, PN is just a tease for us before the main course

 

[Bavarianrider]

Hmm. The Dauphine is the mini, PN is just a tease for us before the main course

But Paris Nice is a race where actually all the contenders try to go all in.
Dauphine is a nice race, but it's just a preperation race and you never know who is going full throttle, and who isn'T.

 

[maltiv]

But Paris Nice is a race where actually all the contenders try to go all in.
Dauphine is a nice race, but it's just a preperation race and you never know who is going full throttle, and who isn'T.

But P-N doesn't have mountains

 

[Kvinto]

But P-N doesn't have mountains

nor has the 2012 Tour

 

[Bavarianrider]

Historically, Paris Nice has never been a high mountain race.

Flat short TT
2 hilly uphill finishes
steep medium mountain finish
Short Mountain TT.

That's as classic Paris Nice as it gets.

Criticism on this route is simply ridicilous.

 

[cineteq]

But Paris Nice is a race where actually all the contenders try to go all in.
Dauphine is a nice race, but it's just a preperation race and you never know who is going full throttle, and who isn'T.

Dauphiné is the mini, and always get half of TdF main contenders.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Historically, Paris Nice has never been a high mountain race.

Flat short TT
2 hilly uphill finishes
steep medium mountain finish
Short Mountain TT.

That's as classic Paris Nice as it gets.

Criticism on this route is simply ridicilous.

Where was the comment you're responding to criticising that?

It's just that without mountains, can it really be a mini-Tour de France?

To which the sarcastic response was, in 2012, yes. But that's because of the atypically flat Tour route, not because of the typical Paris-Nice route.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Big Tour de France = Big Mountains
Mini Tour de France = Mini Mountains