Peter Sagan moved to Sky?maltiv said:Luckily for Cav the biggest potential threat for the green jersey is going to be his leadout man next year
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Peter Sagan moved to Sky?maltiv said:Luckily for Cav the biggest potential threat for the green jersey is going to be his leadout man next year
greenedge said:Phil will not win Ronde, nor will he focus on it
greenedge said:Phil will not win Ronde, nor will he focus on it.
greenedge said:Phil will not win Ronde, nor will he focus on it.
I have a query does anyone know if Hushovd after his cobbled campaign, might do the Giro. He could stage-hunt/ sprint on any harder finishes. He'll go missing otherwise up until the TDF ( after P-R ) so he might as well do the Giro before the TDF ( if only so he could get some publicity )
Cancellara on top form might be able to challenge Phil on that hill, or at least come close enough to catch him back on the descent and flat.Panda Claws said:The new Ronde finish will actually favor Gilbert as the last hill will be closer to the finish.
The Hitch said:Cancellara on top form might be able to challenge Phil on that hill, or at least come close enough to catch him back on the descent and flat.
El Pistolero said:Ballan+ Gilbert > Cancellara
If these 2 can get away after the final hill, Cancellara will struggle to come back.
The Hitch said:Why would Ballan get away from Cancellara?
El Pistolero said:Because the new hills in the final suit him a lot. He's one of the strongest on these type of cobbled hills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdzpAcKZm70
The Hitch said:I knew you were going to bring up that hill.
But Cancellara, in case you missed it, had been doing a tt for 30km and had just cracked totally.
Ballan is 1 of the strongest on that type of hill but Cancellara is together with Phil the strongest.
If Canc brings his 2011 RVV form, and they go into that hill together, I don't see Ballan playing any part.
The Hitch said:I knew you were going to bring up that hill.
But Cancellara, in case you missed it, had been doing a tt for 30km and had just cracked totally.
Ballan is 1 of the strongest on that type of hill but Cancellara is together with Phil the strongest.
If Canc brings his 2011 RVV form, and they go into that hill together, I don't see Ballan playing any part.
Parrulo said:aren't you also forgetting boonen?
on that type of cobbled hills gilbert, boonen and canc are the strongest hands down, ballan is a level below.
btw the bosberg this year isn't a great example as canc had cracked completely just a couple k before
Parrulo said:aren't you also forgetting boonen?
on that type of cobbled hills gilbert, boonen and canc are the strongest hands down, ballan is a level below.
btw the bosberg this year isn't a great example as canc had cracked completely just a couple k before
El Pistolero said:I could use other years as example as well. He only dominated in 2010 really.
El Pistolero said:I could use other years as example as well. He only dominated in 2010 really.
But I believe Cancellara will crack again if the other teams play it right. He doesn't have one domestique in his team. If Cancellara had domestiques like Hincapie, Thor Hushovd, GVA and Ballan he'd have the Ronde van Vlaanderen in his bag already. But he doesn't
Parrulo said:yes it is true that he only truly dominated for the past 2 years that's why i still think an healthy boonen (as in a boonen with 2 knees and not only 1 like he had for the past few of seasons)is better then canc. but i don't think canc will make the mistake he made last year, imo he should watch the bmc vs OPQS battle from the shadows(they seem to be by far the 2 strongest teams for the cobbles) and try to put his move near the end on the last couple of hills where there won't be any domestiques to help with the chase.
El Pistolero said:I don't think Cancellara will be able to hide his shape till the Ronde van Vlaanderen though. If he shows the same form as in 2010 and 2011 everybody will ride against him yet again.
The Hitch said:I think Canc is the best and maybe Gilbert, based on what he might be like if he brought FW form to RVV.
And 2011.
Come on Hushovd wasn't as strong as Cancellara otherwise he would have followed him.El Pistolero said:I believe Sylvain Chavanel was the strongest at the Ronde that day, especially if we can believe his post-race interviews(e.g. Cancellara was going slow the whole time).
At Roubaix, Hushovd was also as strong as Cancellara. He only let him go in the final, but that was because he wasn't paying much attention anymore(and he admitted that in post-race interviews). Dominating for me means to be the best with no one being able to match you.
Parrulo said:but how can they ride against him if he is just sitting on their wheel? its easier said then done, we all know gilbert won't let any1 on his team other then himself win the ronde so all canc has to do is sit there till the time is right. OPQS with boonen and chavannel have much better chances to pull the man up the road tactic on canc then bmc with gilbert have simply because of the rider's mentality, i mean after all boonen alreagy gave 2 rondes to a team mate a third wouldn't make much difference
El Pistolero said:Trust me they will ride against him. Just look at some of Gilbert's interviews before the Ronde. "Ik heb een geheim wapen. Laat mijn goede vriend Pozzato nu maar achter Cancellara rijden."
Parrulo said:ya cus i totally got that translation please
trevim said:Come on Hushovd wasn't as strong as Cancellara otherwise he would have followed him.
That's true, Hushovd really looked mighty strong in some cobbles sectors. He even forced a bit of selection. But he lacked a bit in the final kmEl Pistolero said:It's debatable, I admit. But Hushovd matched Cancellara on every important cobbled stone sector. Cancellara pulled off a surprise attack in the last few km just like how he surprised everyone at the Ronde with that last attack.