2012 Tirreno -Adriatico, Stage 5:Martinsicuro - Prati di Tivo: 196 km

[theyoungest]

The key is to watch more track racing, once you do you get an idea for the young talents from Commonwealth countries + USA who can make it onto the world well , like Meyer who has shone the last couple of years on the track and Bobridge (he is going to decimate everyone next year when he gets of the track)

Put Cancellara on the track for a season and he'll make them all scream for their mother. Cam Meyer is a great track rider, so is Iljo Keisse. Doesn't mean they're great road riders.

 

[Froome19]

Put Cancellara on the track for a season and he'll make them all scream for their mother. Cam Meyer is a great track rider, so is Iljo Keisse. Doesn't mean they're great road riders.

No, but it sure does help

 

[dolophonic]

Put Cancellara on the track for a season and he'll make them all scream for their mother. Cam Meyer is a great track rider, so is Iljo Keisse. Doesn't mean they're great road riders.

Yes really.. look at T. Phinney. Some can make the jump some not. Same for the MTB. Look at John Gadret that was big.

 

[Froome19]

Yes really.. look at T. Phinney. Some can make the jump some not. Same for the MTB. Look at John Gadret that was big.

And Evans.

 

[Mellow Velo]

The key is to watch more track racing, once you do you get an idea for the young talents from Commonwealth countries + USA who can make it onto the world well , like Meyer who has shone the last couple of years on the track and Bobridge (he is going to decimate everyone next year when he gets of the track)

I know you don't know why, but this made me grin. Large.

 

[burning]

This is the group that came in 30 minutes down today. No doubt doing the minimum to get inside time limit. I'll wager 2012 Milan San Remo winner is in here.

156 Tyler Farrar (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:30:55
157 Kenny Robert Van Hummel (Ned) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team
158 Alex Rasmussen (Den) Garmin - Barracuda
159 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Sky Procycling
160 Matthew Harley Goss (Aus) GreenEdge Cycling Team
161 Christopher Sutton (Aus) Sky Procycling
162 Mark Cavendish (GBr) Sky Procycling
163 Baden Cooke (Aus) GreenEdge Cycling Team
164 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Sky Procycling
165 André Greipel (Ger) Lotto Belisol Team
166 Marcel Sieberg (Ger) Lotto Belisol Team
167 Giacomo Nizzolo (Ita) RadioShack-Nissan
168 Tomas Vaitkus (Ltu) GreenEdge Cycling Team
DNS Steven Kruijswijk (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
DNF Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre - ISD

Winner of MSR is from this group

101 Oscar Freire Gomez (Spa) Katusha Team

 

[profff]

The key is to watch more track racing, once you do you get an idea for the young talents from Commonwealth countries + USA who can make it onto the world well , like Meyer who has shone the last couple of years on the track and Bobridge (he is going to decimate everyone next year when he gets of the track)

wiggins did, why cameron can'T?

 

[jens_attacks]

cam meyer and bobrikgde...i like that.

seriously the guy was almost dead at the finish line,you gotta respect his fight.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The key is to watch more track racing, once you do you get an idea for the young talents from Commonwealth countries + USA who can make it onto the world well , like Meyer who has shone the last couple of years on the track and Bobridge (he is going to decimate everyone next year when he gets of the track)

Unfortunately for me, the track events that are of interest to me are the ones like the points race and the madison, so I don't get so much of that. The sprint can be fun, occasionally the TP (it's like a TTT, but actually has a point) but the keirin and Individual Pursuit bore the life out of me.

 

[mb2612]

Unfortunately for me, the track events that are of interest to me are the ones like the points race and the madison, so I don't get so much of that. The sprint can be fun, occasionally the TP (it's like a TTT, but actually has a point) but the keirin and Individual Pursuit bore the life out of me.

Elimination is excellent, the other long ones are pretty good as well. Only the sprint is interesting from the shorter events, and then only because of the novelty of people not racing.

 

[jens_attacks]

Davide Cassani ‏ @davidecassani Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Salita di Prati di Tivo: Km 14,6 Dislivello 1030 metri. Vincenzo Nibali ha impiegato 38'53" alla media di 22,530. VAM 1.590.

pretty fast,probably one of the biggest performances of nibali recorded

also:

Marco Pinotti ‏ @marcopinotti Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Would be interesting to know the individual times on the last 14.5 kms climb in Tirreno.

no doubt,now i'm completely sure di luca did a stratospheric ascent because pinotti can't stand him.i think danilo is better engineer and architect than him or something like that
if someone finds somewhere the individual times please post them here.

 

[BillytheKid]

I've just watched it. He's the biggest surprise in a race full of surprising results: both good and bad.
Last year, he couldn't climb a speed bump, but the experts reckon him a "massive" talent and viola! he's up there beating some of the best.
Mind you, with Nibali winning the big MTF, I'm not sure what to make of the rest of the bunch.

Hoogers beating Wout? Another, not in the script moment.

When I heard this was going to be Horner's first race. I knew he could do well here if his form was good. I do very think the altered stage 4 has played to his favor because RSN team is sprinter heavy plus Cancellara, and he could have been isolated and attacked. In this case, Cancellara and the team help all the way, and he was placed well on final grade. Any steep finish, like the 1k Stage 4 or Sierra Road in last year's Cali at 9.8% and 5k he does very well.

 

[Froome19]

When I heard this was going to be Horner's first race. I knew he could do well here if his form was good. I do very think the altered stage 4 has played to his favor because RSN team is sprinter heavy plus Cancellara, and he could have been isolated and attacked. In this case, Cancellara and the team help all the way, and he was placed well on final grade. Any steep finish, like the 1k Stage 4 or Sierra Road in last year's Cali at 9.8% and 5k he does very well.

Well he wouldnt have really been attacked that much, as he wasnt the race leader then, though it probabbly did help a bit to have his riders protecting him.

 

[Mambo95]

I know you don't know why, but this made me grin. Large.

I found it amusing.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Matti to win in a sneak-attack 10 km from finish. You heard it here first.

 

[Mambo95]

Matti to win in a sneak-attack 10 km from finish. You heard it here first.

I'm pretty sure that Nibali will win. Probably ahead of Kreuziger and Horner.


(You may want the stage 6 thread )

 

[DominicDecoco]

Argh, hit me on the knee and call me Betty you're right. Confusing much.

 

[BillytheKid]

“In the final kilometers when Nibali went, I had to decide which card to play since there were so many bonus seconds available on the line. If I chased Nibali too hard but faded at the end, Kreuziger would have gained more seconds than just the bonus seconds, so I decided to give away something to Nibali to better protect the jersey.”

Unless Liquigas-Cannondale can outwit Radio Shack Nissan and Astana...etc
tomorrow. It looks to be Horner vs. Kreuziger in a short ITT.

I would have rather Horner countered Nibali, but then he's right's Roman could have popped him gaining the win, seconds, and bonus seconds while Horner would have ended most likely third or worse as they might have all come back together.

Horner is the polar opposite of a Valverde among climbers.

I liked the way Horner pull out his radio in the final K because he might have had more sense than his director in the moment.

 

[movingtarget]

No, but it sure does help

Especially pursuit riders and madison riders. One is flat out for 4kms while the other is sprinting every five laps while lapping at hard pace. Has to be good for strength and stamina. Many have made the crossover.

 

[jens_attacks]

what a fuccin bad luck for danilo.if they missed il giro because of that crash in the descent is terrible.

Davide Cassani
Parlando con l' addetto stampa dell'Acqua & Sapone questa sera ho saputo che per colpa della caduta in discesa di Majka Danilo Di Luca è rimasto attardato cominciando l'ultima salita con 1'30" di ritardo dal gruppo principale. Io prima ho dato il tempo e la VAM di Nibali perchè ho personalmente preso il tempo. In base a quello che mi ha detto e essendo arrivato con 1'15" di ritardo sarebbe stato Danilo a fare la salita più veloci di tutti con 15" in meno



il killer was 15 seconds faster than nibali on prati di tivo.well that didn't help...
still that means without any doubt now the old di luca is back.

 

[greenedge]

Good stage win by Nibali ( only just finished the stage ). I am hoping that Kreuziger beats Horner.

 

[greenedge]

rabo are a big pile of fail thus far this season. Even with an injury ridden winter it looks like rabo rely on mr, gesink to deliver still

Matthews went for them and looked to be good for M-SR until Rabo paid a rider from another team to crash him and Matthews so they can ride for Bos

Now in all seriousness Rabo will ride for Breschel, Renshaw and maybe Boom.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Good stage win by Nibali ( only just finished the stage ). I am hoping that Kreuziger beats Horner.

Nibali will beat them both.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Good stage win by Nibali ( only just finished the stage ). I am hoping that Kreuziger beats Horner.

Like Nibali is out of contention.

 

[Red Rick]

Like Nibali is out of contention.

I hope kreuziger beats horner too, and i hope they are both 10s slower than nibali