2012 Tour of California May 18 stage 7: Ontario - Mt. Baldy 126 km

[ElChingon]

Finally a foreigner wins the ToC (that I know of), should mark the end of the ToC as the next great stage race.

 

[Spine Concept]

well- some day those dwarfs are gonna knock down "Goliath" HAHAHAHA

Gesink wasn't even in top form today so I highly doubt that.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Gesink wins his first GT according to BavarianRider.

 

[hfer07]

As we saw today! Oh no wait. You'll never be a person to credit Gesink will you?

I would- but he's yet to prove himself on the big races- Cali is just a "warm up"

 

[theyoungest]

Awesome by Gesink, great suspense in the final too. Actually I was most impressed by Dombrowski, what a kid Somebody sign him, now.

 

[El Pistolero]

Finally a foreigner wins the ToC (that I know of), should mark the end of the ToC as the next great stage race.

Floyd Landis won in 2006. He must be a foreigner or else Phil&Paul would be talking about him constantly like they do with every other American/Anglophone rider.

 

[roundabout]

Great ride by Gesink. Great ride by Atapuma. Good defense by Zabriskie. And I really liked how fluent Dombrowski looked for such a lanky guy. Certainly a big future ahead of him.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I would- but he's yet to prove himself on the big races- Cali is just a "warm up"

It's pretty clear Gesink is also just warming up. He was definately not at his best today that was clear

 

[ElChingon]

Just a reality check before people get over hyped:


Stage 5 TT

1 David Zabriskie (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:35:59
2 Jens Voigt (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan 0:00:23
3 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:00:34
4 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:39
5 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:00:48
6 Peter Velits (Svk) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:00:49
7 Maarten Tjallingii (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:52
8 Luke Durbridge (Aus) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:01:01
9 Thomas Danielson (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:01:07
13 George Hincapie (USA) BMC Racing Team
16 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:01:40
17 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:01:44
20 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:01:52
21 Bram Tankink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:02:00
24 Pieter Weening (Ned) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:02:07
25 Heinrich Haussler (Aus) Garmin - Barracuda
26 Tiago Machado (Por) RadioShack-Nissan
29 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:02:11
30 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Team Exergy 0:02:13
36 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
42 Christopher Horner (USA) RadioShack-Nissan 0:02:50
49 Michael Creed (USA) Team Optum presented by Kelly Benefit Strategies 0:03:19
52 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale
55 Joseph Dombrowski (USA) Bontrager Livestrong Team 0:03:35

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well, in all fairness to Dombrowski, 5 years ago Gesink also rode TT's from that level.He improved. So why couldn't Dombrowski. He looks like a great talent

 

[El Pistolero]

A lot of decent youngster have come from the Livestrong team like Phinney, Dowset and Jesse Sergent.

 

[orangerider]

Funny how Leipheimer actually is going to finish 3 placed higher on GC that Horner, especially after all Horner said in fact Leipheimer was pretty bad just Horner was worse.

Yea, just wait for the "I told you so" from Horner on how Levi was faking it.

 

[hfer07]

John Darwin Atapuma Hurtado

hoping to see more of him, only 24 years old, beastly climber

Indeed - he's being watched closely by Movistar & Sky.....

 

[boomcie]

Who will henceforth be known as "Princess Zelda".

Striking resemblance.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I still find it more of a suprise Duarte went back to Colombia.

Can't believe nobody else picked him up. Today again a great climb (after starting to far back when the attacks started)

 

[hatcher]

I still find it more of a suprise Duarte went back to Colombia.

Can't believe nobody else picked him up. Today again a great climb (after starting to far back when the attacks started)

Riding for a national team is still a strong pull to a lot of people. Definitely a step back on his career path so far though.

 

[Don Johnson]

Just a reality check before people get over hyped:


Stage 5 TT

1 David Zabriskie (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:35:59
2 Jens Voigt (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan 0:00:23
3 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:00:34
4 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:39
5 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:00:48
6 Peter Velits (Svk) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:00:49
7 Maarten Tjallingii (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:52
8 Luke Durbridge (Aus) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:01:01
9 Thomas Danielson (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:01:07
13 George Hincapie (USA) BMC Racing Team
16 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:01:40
17 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:01:44
20 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:01:52
21 Bram Tankink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:02:00
24 Pieter Weening (Ned) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:02:07
25 Heinrich Haussler (Aus) Garmin - Barracuda
26 Tiago Machado (Por) RadioShack-Nissan
29 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:02:11
30 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Team Exergy 0:02:13
36 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
42 Christopher Horner (USA) RadioShack-Nissan 0:02:50
49 Michael Creed (USA) Team Optum presented by Kelly Benefit Strategies 0:03:19
52 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale
55 Joseph Dombrowski (USA) Bontrager Livestrong Team 0:03:35

I am sorry Drombowski and Craddock will be top knotch GT men in Europe.

I am just saying it because of their confidence, poise, movement on bike.

When I see guys like Drombowski and Craddock, I see inner power, and more power ready to be unleashed, still in development.

Wheras with the great Colombian climber, a climber, yes, at peak performance. When Drombowski blows by a climber like TJ, who targeted this race, respect.

 

[theyoungest]

Just a reality check before people get over hyped:


Stage 5 TT

1 David Zabriskie (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:35:59
2 Jens Voigt (Ger) RadioShack-Nissan 0:00:23
3 Tejay Van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:00:34
4 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:39
5 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:00:48
6 Peter Velits (Svk) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:00:49
7 Maarten Tjallingii (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:00:52
8 Luke Durbridge (Aus) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:01:01
9 Thomas Danielson (USA) Garmin - Barracuda 0:01:07
13 George Hincapie (USA) BMC Racing Team
16 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:01:40
17 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:01:44
20 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:01:52
21 Bram Tankink (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:02:00
24 Pieter Weening (Ned) Orica GreenEdge Cycling Team 0:02:07
25 Heinrich Haussler (Aus) Garmin - Barracuda
26 Tiago Machado (Por) RadioShack-Nissan
29 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Omega Pharma-Quickstep 0:02:11
30 Fred Rodriguez (USA) Team Exergy 0:02:13
36 Laurens Ten Dam (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
42 Christopher Horner (USA) RadioShack-Nissan 0:02:50
49 Michael Creed (USA) Team Optum presented by Kelly Benefit Strategies 0:03:19
52 Peter Sagan (Svk) Liquigas-Cannondale
55 Joseph Dombrowski (USA) Bontrager Livestrong Team 0:03:35

Well, he's obviously not a born TTer, so what? This is the most impressive climbing by a 20 year old (!) I've seen in a long time.

 

[thehog]

A lot of decent youngster have come from the Livestrong team like Phinney, Dowset and Jesse Sergent.

What!!!?

Phinny rode for Garmin & only one year at Livestrong.

 

[roundabout]

21 for a week now actually. He will be a great climber, but there are less and less chances for climbers now.

 

[theyoungest]

21 for a week now actually. He will be a great climber, but there are less and less chances for climbers now.

There are? I think in the Giro we're about to see a full week of mostly climbing. Actually most races get more and more climby, even Eneco Tour.

 

[hfer07]

Riding for a national team is still a strong pull to a lot of people. Definitely a step back on his career path so far though.

it was a matter of national pride & mostly the security of being a protected leader(perhaps Atapuma is currently challenging that position) -whereas in Europe he would have become a "domestique" with few chances to race for his own ambitions...
don't see it such step back when he's performing so well- I'm confident he will receive offers from big teams in coming years & the full transition will be made.
Atapuma to me is the one that will be picked first..

 

[ElChingon]

I am sorry Drombowski and Craddock will be top knotch GT men in Europe.

I am just saying it because of their confidence, poise, movement on bike.

When I see guys like Drombowski and Craddock, I see inner power, and more power ready to be unleashed, still in development.

Wheras with the great Colombian climber, a climber, yes, at peak performance. When Drombowski blows by a climber like TJ, who targeted this race, respect.

Yea, we heard that about Danielson, when they go over to Euroland the game changes, their USA-ian Teet will not be there.

 

[hatcher]

it was a matter of national pride & mostly the security of being a protected leader(perhaps Atapuma is currently challenging that position) -whereas in Europe he would have become a "domestique" with few chances to race for his own ambitions...
don't see it such step back when he's performing so well- I'm confident he will receive offers from big teams in coming years & the full transition will be made.
Atapuma to me is the one that will be picked first..

Also he couldn't have expected the team to have such a slow start to the European season. Will he be riding Vuelta a Colombia? Not sure where their next big goals might be apart from that.

Yeah Atapuma looks pure class. He'll have his choice of teams I would imagine.

 

[ElChingon]

Well, he's obviously not a born TTer, so what? This is the most impressive climbing by a 20 year old (!) I've seen in a long time.

Just saying don't go overboard, lets see what he does as a Statiegier (sp?) first over in Europe and if he gets a contract and actually like living over there, then the talk should commence.