2013 Giro d'Italia Stage 10 : Cordenons - Altopiano Del Montasio 167 km

[Dazed and Confused]

Might be one of the most balanced poll outcome ever on this forum.

can't ask for more. Totally unpredictable.

 

[King Boonen]

He's never had, let alone right now. Getting votes to win the stage is beyond logic.

Evans is an enigma. I'm not sure he's going to keep at it for 3 weeks. If he does, it's going to be 30% smarts vs. 70% physical condition.

He's race training for this race was really bizarre. Has JV said anything about this?

Got to agree with most of that, except I think Wiggins may have the ability to drop Nibali if he is really up for it and in shape, doesn't look like he is though.

Evans looks very strong and seems to be relishing the ability to fly under the radar. If he can hang with Nibali then he can take a few seconds here and there, especially if Astana are forced to work. I'm sure he'll have a bad day, that'll be the tipping point, but he certainly looks better than last years Tour.

I think Nibali wasn't expecting to have the jersey by now and probably doesn't really want it. There is a lot of work to do, a lot of contenders close together and a very strong team who can now sit back and make him and his team-mates do the work.

Two things are for sure, this is already the best GT in years and whoever does win it will really deserve the win.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He's never had, let alone right now. Getting votes to win the stage is beyond logic.

Evans is an enigma. I'm not sure he's going to keep at it for 3 weeks. If he does, it's going to be 30% smarts vs. 70% physical condition.

He's race training for this race was really bizarre. Has JV said anything about this?

oh really? I remember something different in last years tour. I remembe rin last years tour mountainstage where froome and wiggins dropped the entire field including nibali

 

[veganrob]

Don't think there will be much fireworks from the GC contenders yet. They will still be marking each other. Though I hope I am wrong. The winner will come from an attack from someone else and let go. Some contenders may lose time however.

 

[cineteq]

oh really? I remember something different in last years tour. I remembe rin last years tour mountainstage where froome and wiggins dropped the entire field including nibali

With a train, right, with Nibali injured ,right? Get the facts right.

 

[dhawk97]

Yeah Wiggins and FroomeDog destroyed Nibali on stage (17 was it?) to the point Froome bellowed "He's Buried!!". Obviously this seems to be a different Wiggins, for him to say he's in the same form (or better) is total rubbish

 

[King Boonen]

Yeah Wiggins and FroomeDog destroyed Nibali on stage (17 was it?) to the point Froome bellowed "He's Buried!!". Obviously this seems to be a different Wiggins, for him to say he's in the same form (or better) is total rubbish

I'm not so sure. Bad luck, nerves and weather have got the better of Wiggins but when he has shown form (end of the TT) he's looked very impressive.

It's harder to crash going up hill, maybe we'll see a rejuvenated Wiggins tomorrow.

If we don't Sky better let the Colombians ride.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

With a train, right, with Nibali injured ,right? Get the facts right.

injured? lol that's why he finished third that tour

 

[webvan]

With a train, right, with Nibali injured ,right? Get the facts right.

A Liquigas train yes and Nibali wasn't that injured (see the following ITT), fact is he couldn't keep up in Peyragudes after attacking on Peyresourde, and he'd been dropped before in the mountains too. Excellent all-rounder but not the super climber some here think he is, a modern day Savoldelli if you will.

I guess another big question for stage 10 is whether Wiggins will be DNF as our biased friend has now predicted (after predicting/wishing since the beginning of the Giro that he would be DNF)...not sure what he's offering if that doesn't happen? To stop trolling?

 

[Cimber]

I'm not so sure. Bad luck, nerves and weather have got the better of Wiggins but when he has shown form (end of the TT) he's looked very impressive.

It's harder to crash going up hill, maybe we'll see a rejuvenated Wiggins tomorrow.

If we don't Sky better let the Colombians ride.

Well I would also say its due to a much more demanding route here in the Giro compared to the Tour last year. The Tour was much mroe controlable. The Giro is so much more unperdictable and prone to a lot of attacks.

 

[cineteq]

I guess another big question for stage 10 is whether Wiggins will be DNF as our biased friend has now predicted (after predicting/wishing since the beginning of the Giro that he would be DNF)...not sure what he's offering if that doesn't happen? To stop trolling?

I still stand even more for what I said earlier. Sir Wiggo will DNF the Giro. You can't call me a troll for expressing my opinion, sorry.

 

[King Boonen]

Well I would also say its due to a much more demanding route here in the Giro compared to the Tour last year. The Tour was much mroe controlable. The Giro is so much more unperdictable and prone to a lot of attacks.

Definitely, It's why many prefer the Giro to the Tour!

When we hit the mountains with Astana being forced to lead it may be a different matter though.

 

[movingtarget]

oh really? I remember something different in last years tour. I remembe rin last years tour mountainstage where froome and wiggins dropped the entire field including nibali

A year is a long time ask Hesjedal.

 

[dhawk97]

I'm not so sure. Bad luck, nerves and weather have got the better of Wiggins but when he has shown form (end of the TT) he's looked very impressive.

It's harder to crash going up hill, maybe we'll see a rejuvenated Wiggins tomorrow.

If we don't Sky better let the Colombians ride.

Totally agree. The Giro would be all the better for having an attack minded Wiggins, but he just seems so not up for it?! I've never seen him bothered by wet sloped before. Yeah if not, let Uran tear it up, that will scare Astana

 

[vladimir]

Bit dissapointed to select "others" instead of Samu.
Apart from a mediocre ITT, I think he has looked strong every day.
And hopefully he has slipped below the radar among the other GC contenders, just like he obviously has done here...

 

[Eshnar]

A Liquigas train yes and Nibali wasn't that injured (see the following ITT), fact is he couldn't keep up in Peyragudes after attacking on Peyresourde

yes, he lost a whopping 18''. If it happens again he's screwed.

 

[webvan]

I still stand even more for what I said earlier. Sir Wiggo will DNF the Giro. You can't call me a troll for expressing my opinion, sorry.

Wishing from the get go that a rider you don't like will be DNF is trolling, period.

 

[King Boonen]

Totally agree. The Giro would be all the better for having an attack minded Wiggins, but he just seems so not up for it?! I've never seen him bothered by wet sloped before. Yeah if not, let Uran tear it up, that will scare Astana

Yeah, he's not looked up for it. Although to be fair every stage except the TT has favoured his rivals so far, and even the TT was more like a score-draw with hindsight.

Astana really do have the jersey too early for my liking. I'm wondering if A) Sky will be willing to sit back and let people go to force Astana to work and B) if Astana have the riders to defend for two weeks.

 

[movingtarget]

Wiggins is still close enough if he rides well in the mountains. He can't afford to concede too much time tomorrow. If Nibali picks up a time bonus that won't help.

 

[Eshnar]

injured? lol that's why he finished third that tour

He had a contracture on stage 17. You could see the bandages on the final ITT. Anyway even if he was perfectly fine, he lost only 18'' against Froome.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Yeah, he's not looked up for it. Although to be fair every stage except the TT has favoured his rivals so far, and even the TT was more like a score-draw with hindsight.

Astana really do have the jersey too early for my liking. I'm wondering if A) Sky will be willing to sit back and let people go to force Astana to work and B) if Astana have the riders to defend for two weeks.

The best thing that can happen for Nibali is Evans getting the pink jersey after stage 10 with a couple of seconds to spare. Let BMC use its resources for a week or so and then take the jersey back with a strategic attack. Its risky, put the alternative may be even worse.

 

[King Boonen]

The best thing that can happen for Nibali is Evans getting the pink jersey after stage 10 with a couple of seconds to spare. Let BMC use its resources for a week or so and then take the jersey back with a strategic attack. Its risky, put the alternative may be even worse.

Yeah, I'd agree with that, but I think Evans would realise that too. There are enough stages for him to gauge his efforts and take the time slowly, he's a canny bike racer.

Imagine going into stage 20 with a few seconds gap between Nibali, Evans, Wiggins and, possibly, Scarponi.

 

[Climbing]

The best thing that can happen for Nibali is Evans getting the pink jersey after stage 10 with a couple of seconds to spare. Let BMC use its resources for a week or so and then take the jersey back with a strategic attack. Its risky, put the alternative may be even worse.

I wouldn't underestimate Evans, nor give him any seconds for free.
It's true Astana doesn't look good at the moment, with ill riders and the like, but maybe the rest day is gonna help them.

Sky trio could be a very strong asset to dismantle their opposition, but we know it's not going to happen unless Wiggo collapses completely.

 

[dhawk97]

Sky do have the resourses to better Astana in the mountains, even if Wiggers is not up to scratch. Siutsou in trentino won a fabulous mtf, Wiggins stuck with Nibali the whole way and never looked bothered at all. WHAT has happened to this Wiggins?!

 

[Cimber]

Sky do have the resourses to better Astana in the mountains, even if Wiggers is not up to scratch. Siutsou in trentino won a fabulous mtf, Wiggins stuck with Nibali the whole way and never looked bothered at all. WHAT has happened to this Wiggins?!

Giro is a totally different beast than the Tour. A lot more unpretictable which doesnt fit Sky and Wiggo well.