2013 Milan-San Remo, 17 March (298km)

[Mr.38%]

Ciolek has been on the bottom end of a lot of crap and being overlooked since joining HTC years ago.

It's his own fault actually, if you would like to say so. The first thing everybody over here (15 km from his birthplace) was like is: "Uh no, not with Stauffi again...".

Anyway: What a race, what a finale, what a winner.

 

[gruppeto993]

Great ride by Sagan, smart Ciolek. Cancellara didn't have legs today.

Sagan said he was really marking Chavanel and Canc and didn't care much about Ciolek. He didn't realize what a great sprinter he is.

The best thing about Sagan he don't care about finishing 2nd. No whining about others not taking pulls, like Canc would do. All he said is he will be stronger in RVV.

Agreed. Cancellara was obviously not strong enough but I think he will peak in RVV and PR. Sagan was naive, he got too caught up marking cancellara that he forgot about ciolek. Didn't his team warn him over the radio about ciolek's sprint? And for those saying that Sagan did a lot of work, I don't think he did as much as cancellara does to end up 2nd or 3rd.
Chavanel and stannard were very aggressive but perhaps they should have cooperated more. I dont understand what happened to EBH. Ever since last year's tour he has become a better climber but he couldn't get over the poggio well enough

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Stannard tried to win by breaking away like any great rider does, He couldn't pull it off but continued to put on a great show anyway.

Yeah, if Sagan did the same and lost the race, you would said he was over-confident and arrogant

 

[HiCadence]

Yeah, if Sagan did the same and lost the race, you would said he was over-confident and arrogant

Not at all.. I would have said "Chapeau! That's what a great rider does Peter!"

 

[King Of The Wolds]

what happened to EBH. Ever since last year's tour he has become a better climber but he couldn't get over the poggio well enough

Cipressa, from memory. Sky must be losing patience.

 

[rghysens]

Cipressa, from memory. Sky must be losing patience.

If he destroys half the peloton on the first decent climb next tour, Sky will be happy.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Great win for Ciolek.

Cav undone by the ego of Tom & Chav in the end - tiny gap there and Chav was pulling a group he couldn't win in.

In fairness to Chav, he clearly had a free role, but I certainly wonder what his DS was up to.

I'd also rather question the supposed Flandrian hardmen, who obviously didn't fancy it, and one of whom prioritised making a statement to the organisers over supporting a team mate. Shameful.

Hopefully they'll give Cav stronger support next week, just in case they get a bit of rain.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

If he destroys half the peloton on the first decent climb next tour, Sky will be happy.

I'm not sure his domestique deluxe work and occasional minor classic win makes up for his salary. Sky pay him to deliver in the big Classics, and he just isn't delivering.

 

[hfer07]

well- I'm just going to say 2 things:

1 Congrats to Ciolek.
2. Sagan proved to be the strongest-but he has to match that talent with brains & tactics.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm a bit confused, what does this mean:

63 DNF
Maarten Tjallingii (Ned) Blanco Pro Cycling Team

 

[HiCadence]

DNF - Did not finish.

 

[barn yard]

I'd also rather question the supposed Flandrian hardmen, who obviously didn't fancy it, and one of whom prioritised making a statement to the organisers over supporting a team mate. Shameful.

Hopefully they'll give Cav stronger support next week, just in case they get a bit of rain.

indeed, where were all these supposed cyclocross hardened belgians?

more belgians on the DNF list than on the finish list

 

[burning]

I'm a bit confused, what does this mean:

He couldn't stand the embarassment of finishing 63rd and just jumped out of barriers 20m to go so he'll DNF instead of being 63rd but organizators realized this stunt and punished him

 

[postmanhat]

I'm not sure his domestique deluxe work and occasional minor classic win makes up for his salary. Sky pay him to deliver in the big Classics, and he just isn't delivering.

Yes, it's not like Sky are short of domestiques. I imagine Stannard has already replaced EBH for most of the rest of the season. Sky are nothing, if not ruthless.

 

[RedheadDane]

DNF - Did not finish.

I know what DNF means... but looking through the result list it goes like this:

62
Ricardo Garcia Ambroa (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi

63 DNF
Maarten Tjallingii (Ned) Blanco Pro Cycling Team

64
Vicente Reynes Mimo (Spa) Lotto Belisol

65
Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Lampre-Merida

66
Zdenek Stybar (Cze) Omega Pharma-Quick-Step Cycling Team

67
Jens Keukeleire (Bel) Orica-GreenEdge

68
Simon Gerrans (Aus) Orica-GreenEdge

69
Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) RadioShack Leopard

70
Ramunas Navardauskas (Ltu) Garmin-Sharp

71
Manuel Quinziato (Ita) BMC Racing Team

72
Juan Antonio Flecha Giannoni (Spa) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team

73
Matti Breschel (Den) Team Saxo-Tinkoff

74
Johan Van Summeren (Bel) Garmin-Sharp

75
Daniele Pietropolli (Ita) Lampre-Merida

76
Davide Cimolai (Ita) Lampre-Merida

77
Alessandro Vanotti (Ita) Astana Pro Team

78
Grega Bole (Slo) Vacansoleil-DCM Pro Cycling Team

79
Simon Geschke (Ger) Team Argos-Shimano

80
Angel Madrazo Ruiz (Spa) Movistar Team

81
Jorge Azanza Soto (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi

82 DNF
Paul Martens (Ger) Blanco Pro Cycling Team

83
Marco Bandiera (Ita) IAM Cycling

84
Johannes Fröhlinger (Ger) Team Argos-Shimano

Randomly in the middle of everything two guys are DNFed and get a placement...

 

[burning]

I know what DNF means... but looking through the result list it goes like this:



Randomly in the middle of everything two guys are DNFed and get a placement...

It is probably just a typo from CN, it looks like they finished the race

 

[El Pistolero]

In fairness to Chav, he clearly had a free role, but I certainly wonder what his DS was up to.

I'd also rather question the supposed Flandrian hardmen, who obviously didn't fancy it, and one of whom prioritised making a statement to the organisers over supporting a team mate. Shameful.

Hopefully they'll give Cav stronger support next week, just in case they get a bit of rain.

Here's a tip to Cav: don't diss your team-mates in the media. Obviously they don't want to work for him.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Here's a tip to Cav: don't diss your team-mates in the media. Obviously they don't want to work for him.

Here's mine to them: work for him or your DS will bring in somebody who will.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Great win for Ciolek and his team, he has been knocking on the door for the last few weeks and then, BAM, BAZINGA, you win Milano - San Remo.

How about that.

Sehr schon, kein Umlaut on my keybord, excusez moi.

Here's a tip to Cav: don't diss your team-mates in the media. Obviously they don't want to work for him.

They only work for your poster hero?

 

[El Pistolero]

Here's mine to them: work for him or your DS will bring in somebody who will.

I'm sure they'll **** off Chavanel, Terpstra, Vandenbergh and Boonen just to get Cav his support to get beaten in a sprint by AK.

He'll be undisputed leader for the Grand Tours, but outside those he isn't the top man.

 

[burning]

Great win for Ciolek and his team, he has been knocking on the door for the last few weeks and then, BAM, BAZINGA, you win Milano - San Remo.

How about that.

Sehr schon, kein Umlaut on my keybord, excusez moi.

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Here's what you need

I don't have a with umlaut though, but I think you can type it with alt+some numbers

 

[jens_attacks]

someone should 'shop wiggo's smirk and put it on fabian's face on the finish line

finally, a decent "sfida"...there will be some nice battles in the next months

 

[HiCadence]

Here's a tip to Cav: don't diss your team-mates in the media. Obviously they don't want to work for him.

How did he disrespect them? What did he say haven't read anywhere that he diss'd them so i'm curious.

 

[El Pistolero]

How did he disrespect them? What did he say haven't read anywhere that he diss'd them so i'm curious.

After he failed to win stage 1 in the T-A. I'm all for Cav criticizing his team-mates in the bus, but no need to take the trash out to the media. We saw today how high the moral is of the QS boys to work for Cav. Very low.

 

[HiCadence]

After he failed to win stage 1. I'm all for Cav criticizing is team-mates in the bus, but no need to take the trash out to the media. We saw today how high the moral is of the QS boys to work for Cav. Very low.

Fair enough.

Edit: He probably should have kept his mouth-shut rather than talk to the media allthough if OPQ messed up he has every right to be angry about it.

What's Cav's next team going to be?