2013 Paris Nice

[McLovin]

03.03 - 10.03.2013

Houilles - Houilles 2.9 km
Saint-Germain-en-Laye - Nemours 195 km
Vimory - Cérilly 200.5 km
Châtel-Guyon - Brioude 170.5 km
Brioude - Saint-Vallier 199.5 km
Châteauneuf-du-Pape - La Montagne de Lure 176 km
Manosque - Nice 220 km
Nice - Col d’Èze 9.6 km

 

[McLovin]

and last stage

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Should be good; nice burn up between the 2nd tier GC guys if the TA lineup rumours are true.

 

[Publicus]

I'm going to be in Paris for the start of this race, but it is looks like it is going to be the equivalent of a junior varsity line up for this race.

 

[Ferminal]

Prologue, 4 sprints an ok hill/descent and MTF.

At least they kept Eze. With such a short prologue (too short, I dare say) winner definitely looks like being the top climber.

 

[Ruudz0r]

Should be good; nice burn up between the 2nd tier GC guys if the TA lineup rumours are true.

Yes it looks that the field for PN will be pretty weak compared to last years. Looking forward to see Ulissi as a leader though (not that I think he can win, bust just to see how he does).

 

[McLovin]

If the top riders will keep going to TA they will need to rethink this course.

 

[serfla]

I like this course more than that of Tirreno - Adriatico.
Also, expected TA field would provide more excitement on this course.

 

[Lexman]

if PN 2013 could give us a remake of that stage that Boonen won last year ...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Gesink, Costa, Westra, who else is starting?

 

[Afrank]

Gesink, Costa, Westra, who else is starting?

Fugslang, TJVG, Taaramae, Kreuziger, Roche, De Gendt, Basso.

 

[Oliver]

Don't know or Fuglsang will ride here:

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-saison-2013-fuglsang-ne-pense-qu-au-tour-de-france-30022.html

Also Rogers & Tony Martin will ride.

 

[Afrank]

Don't know or Fuglsang will ride here:

http://www.cyclismactu.net/news-saison-2013-fuglsang-ne-pense-qu-au-tour-de-france-30022.html

Also Rogers & Tony Martin will ride.

Haven't seen that, he may not ride then. I was just going from cyclingfevers startlist.

Might have some good sprints as well; so far Viviani, Bouhanni, Ferrari, Boonen, and Kittel all listed on the startlist.

 

[Descender]

How could anybody like this route better than Tirreno-Adriatico?

Terrible, terrible route.

 

[Eshnar]

I like this course more than that of Tirreno - Adriatico.

at least tell us why...

 

[LaFlorecita]

at least tell us why...

yea I don't understand it either

 

[barmaher]

The stage into Saint Vallier is good. The final stage is a nice finale.

The mountain stage would be good if it weren't supposed to be the queen stage. It is a bit meh for a stage that is meant to be decisive. At least it is better than the Mende debacle last year for a queen stage.

They don't show all the stages on the website. Maybe one or two of the other stages are a bit tricky.

 

[serfla]

at least tell us why...

No stupid ttt, very nice uphill finish, better itt for conclusion than in T-A.
As I said, T-A field would bring more excitement on this route than on T-A.

 

[Eshnar]

No stupid ttt, very nice uphill finish, better itt for conclusion than in T-A.

And the MTF of Tirreno isn't nice?
and what about the other stages?

 

[LaFlorecita]

No stupid ttt, very nice uphill finish, better itt for conclusion than in T-A.
As I said, T-A field would bring more excitement on this route than on T-A.

I rather see them all ride TA, very nice route

 

[serfla]

And the MTF of Tirreno isn't nice?
and what about the other stages?

Did I say MTF of Tirreno isn't nice?
I said the final itt is better in P-N for expected T-A field.
Other stages pretty much equal. Some opportunities for sprinters and breakers. Although all stages aren't published yet, stage 4 promises nice mix of non-GC stages. Stage 6 should provoke an epic breakaway or daring jump.
All in all, I like it more than T-A.

 

[Eshnar]

Did I say MTF of Tirreno isn't nice?

we were comparing the routes so I assumed that you liked the PN mtf more than the TA.

I said the final itt is better in P-N for expected T-A field.

ok

Other stages pretty much equal. Some opportunities for sprinters and breakers. Although all stages aren't published yet, stage 4 promises nice mix of non-GC stages. Stage 6 should provoke an epic breakaway or daring jump.
All in all, I like it more than T-A.

first of all, the non-published stages we could assume are less interesting than stage 6, that is by far the worst stage published. Forget any kind of 'daring jumps' in that stage. The climb is 70 kms from the finish and the stage is squeezed between a MTF and an MTT.

otoh, TA has only one clear stage for sprints and another one where sprinters will sweat badly but may take it. It then has an ardennes-like stage which is miles better than stage 4 of PN and the stage to Chieti which is infinitely better than the one to Nice.

 

[theyoungest]

What a crap course. Westra FTW.

 

[serfla]

first of all, the non-published stages we could assume are less interesting than stage 6, that is by far the worst stage published. Forget any kind of 'daring jumps' in that stage. The climb is 70 kms from the finish and the stage is squeezed between a MTF and an MTT.

You don't think someone, far in the GC not interested for the itt, could try his luck in last 20 - 30 kilometers, after the intermediate sprint? Or that a group of riders could survive exactly because the stage follows uphill finish and precedes itt, so the favorites will probably take it easier?
Tailor made for Hoogerland, if he's going to ride.

 

[will10]

You don't think someone, far in the GC not interested for the itt, could try his luck in last 20 - 30 kilometers, after the intermediate sprint? Or that a group of riders could survive exactly because the stage follows uphill finish and precedes itt, so the favorites will probably take it easier?
Tailor made for Hoogerland, if he's going to ride.

No way will Johnny be fit to ride unfortunately.