2013 Tour de France, Stage 12: Fougéres - Tours 218 Km

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Mar 13, 2009
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Prediction: I don't care.

Actually, scratch that. I'd love it if Sagan won and had a 'urinating on second place Mark Cavendish' victory salute at the ready.






(just in case anyone thinks I'm serious in any way, I thought I should explicitly qualify that I'm not)
 
Sep 5, 2011
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Why not have the finish a km earlier? I don't understand. The finish is in Tours? I'm rather ignorant about the classics but I thought Paris-Tours was famous for a multi-km long straight avenue finish.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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Thank you zombo10 for the distance info, esp the 650m and 450m data.

I think similar to last stage we could probably have a poll running.


My money is on one massive pileup, that will put stage 1 to shame. Probably the organizers must say in advance that anyone crossing sprint point wont lose time, or else it will be GC contenders who will cause the crash.

As far as prediction goes, i m thinking of betting on degenkolb. he will definitely be part of leadout, and mostly save himself from falling in the final crash.

Voigt had a pretty casual TT yest. So i am thinking tht he may try to charge at the last moment.

Anyone predicting a crash for froome??
 
Sep 1, 2010
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Quite a short distance between intermediate and final sprint, is it even shortest of the Tour I don't remember. Makes it more difficult to recover for the main contenders.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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murali said:
Thank you zombo10 for the distance info, esp the 650m and 450m data.

I think similar to last stage we could probably have a poll running.


My money is on one massive pileup, that will put stage 1 to shame. Probably the organizers must say in advance that anyone crossing sprint point wont lose time, or else it will be GC contenders who will cause the crash.

As far as prediction goes, i m thinking of betting on degenkolb. he will definitely be part of leadout, and mostly save himself from falling in the final crash.

Voigt had a pretty casual TT yest. So i am thinking tht he may try to charge at the last moment.

Anyone predicting a crash for froome??


Sorry, I don't agree. This is a race, it gotta be raced to the line. We already have a 3km rule in case of a pile up, we don't need to dilute or soften the competition any further.

To decrease the chance of crashes riders should start racing with more pace from the start to get rid of the weakest riders before the bizz of the parcous.

A piano stage often ends in crashes as everybody think they have a chance to do something in the end. Mix in fresh sprinter trains along with strong GC related protectors and we have a recipe for crashes.

Or ASO could just design a more selective route.

Anyway Greipel FTW.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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I know abt the 3 km rule, but i am thinking that the crash might happen before that.

Every GC team will try to jostle to reach the 3 km mark, and there lies the problem.

Remember that Garmin and Saxo came up, and sky was there and thereabouts in final kms of stage 10.

No matter what, a crash is certain. Just have to see whether its just one rider or a whole bunch of them that fall.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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SafeBet said:
Sagan bike handling skills might come handy today.

Yep. if all top sprinters make the final corner, then i think sagan might just win ahead of cav today.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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murali said:
I know abt the 3 km rule, but i am thinking that the crash might happen before that.

Every GC team will try to jostle to reach the 3 km mark, and there lies the problem.

Remember that Garmin and Saxo came up, and sky was there and thereabouts in final kms of stage 10.


No matter what, a crash is certain. Just have to see whether its just one rider or a whole bunch of them that fall.


Well, this is part of racing. Like I said riders can just make the stage harder to remove the weakest before the finale. Racing the last 30-40km will not make anybody tired.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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is this a last hour only race? or is there anyone who can animate the race?

probably ASO should consider putting an extra sprint point in flat stages like this.
 
Apr 30, 2011
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May 15, 2011
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agree with having two sprints on day like this, i would have smaller sprints too to make it more important to d well in them
 
Jul 3, 2009
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Pulpstar said:
Which Van Poppel is VCD's main sprinter btw - Might be an outside chance..

Danny has been going well, although they may give Boy one chance today or tomorrow.
 
Sep 4, 2012
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Parrulo said:
Haven't you been around long enough to know how a proper race thread tittle should look like?

Many thanks to the OP for NOT making this thread a poll....
 
Jun 16, 2009
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A leadout train is very important in this stage so I will tip Greipel. Probably won't watch much of the stage because it will be bloody boring.
 
Aug 9, 2012
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If I were a gc candidate I would gamble on a pile up at the first 90 degree turn. If there is no pile up, then likely only a few seconds lost. If there is a pileup and you are in it you risk loosing your tour position.

I'm hoping Kristoff can do something. I think he is good in these difficult finishes. But he has no train, and no leadout man so it's more of a desperate hope.:eek:
 
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Cav for the win and OPQS to secure back-to-back victories.

Be interesting to see what sort of reception he'll get if he does win, anyone know what the French press made of yesterdays incident?